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  1. 7 hours ago, Juxx989 said:

    I got a super cheap BMPCC ($120) a year ago


    Wow. Wow. Just wow. 

    I'd buy them all day long at that price! Non stop. Never quit. Just keep on buying. 

     

     

    7 hours ago, Juxx989 said:

    get about 3-4 ef Lenses (mostly Sigma) and Ill seemingly have the option to go anywhere as the defacto mount seems to be Canon on all cameras.


    Go Nikon! You can use it on everything. Including EF mount cameras. And adapters are much cheaper (& more reliable) for your BMPCC for Nikon than Canon.

  2. 12 hours ago, Matthew Hartman said:

    BMD offers this at a price point I can actually afford, so it seems pretty clear to me. My issue is amoung the BDM product offerings in the 4k space, which one? I have to make my investments count. 


    If you're heart set on BMD then I think the choice is very very clear: URSA Mini Pro. 

    Unless budget can't stretch to that, then find a good secondhand price on the URSA Mini 4.6K
    (or if super broke... go for BMPCC/Micro like I have!)

    11 hours ago, webrunner5 said:

    Why would you consider the BMD Production Camera 4k over the BMD URSA Mini 4K Digital Cinema Camera? I would consider the Production camera, more of a studio camera, inferior to the Ursa Mini 4k, that is more of a Cine camera.. And the Mini 4k is nearly as cheap?


    With the low low low prices of the URSA Mini 4K, I think it would be a no brainer over the BMPC4K because of the extra functionality of the URSA Mini series. 

    Unless one of:
    1) you find the BMPC4K even crazier cheap itself
    2) you value the smaller size of the BMPC4K very very highly

    But I wouldn't be too keen on either, vs the much better 4.6K sensor. 
    (my view has nothing to do with the greater resolution however, it is to with the better DR and ISO performance) 

    However I'd still rather have a URSA Mini 4.6K / BMPC4K pairing over a RED ONE kit. 

     

     

    10 hours ago, webrunner5 said:

    Well no doubt the Media is cheaper for the Production 4k.


    Oh I dunno, the URSA Mini Pro records to SD cards as well, and even SSDs just like the BMPC4K does:

    https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1369457-REG/blackmagic_design_cineursashmssd_ursa_mini_ssd_recorder.html

     

    10 hours ago, webrunner5 said:

    And it is, and can be a lot smaller footprint.

    BMPC4K is the same size as the BMCC (if you have extensive experience with that?), thus it isn't exactly small itself,  especially once you've added a monitor and battery *(whcih many people would feel you need to do).

     

     

  3. 9 hours ago, Matthew Hartman said:

    BMD Production Camera 4k (Mainly for the size, SSD, global shutter, RAW) 

     

    You take a massive massive hit when it comes to both DR and base ISO (which you are stuck on, is very unwise to move off it).

     

     

  4. 13 hours ago, noone said:

    This is different to just having DX mode.


    Ah yes, I'm not saying it is the same as clear digital zoom. Just point out Nikon is closer to it than Canon ;-)

    13 hours ago, Kisaha said:

    @EthanAlexander JVC LS300, has REAL Variable zoom, that one can control with the zoom rocker!

    Niiiiiiiiice! Didn't realise it was controlled by the zoom rocker. But that makes sense, is nifty.

  5. 10 hours ago, Matthew Hartman said:

    Kinefinity

    Seriously a contender. Love the smaller form factor, frame rates/formats, and 15 stops of DR, are all super impressive. I would really like to see more about the Terra 5k, (because of the option for global shutter) but I can't find any example footage whatsoever.

    They announced a while ago the Terra 5K is indefinitely on hold due to supplier issues. (likely running into the same issues BMD had when they tried to release simultaneous global/rolling shutter sensor?)

    I feel the Kinefinity Terra 4K is the most interesting of theirs (it is also the camera which is potentially most similar to DSLR/mirrorless size. With Panasonic EVA1 being the 2nd smallest). Also a new uber camera of these is meant to be announced in only a few more weeks or so.

     

     

     

    10 hours ago, Matthew Hartman said:

    I'm also concearned about broad support and longevity. Being an NX1 user I know firsthand how brutal and dismisive the industry can be towards newcomers. Kinefinity is quite often (and foolishly) left out of camera comparison  reviews that compare your usual suspects. The industry needs some disruption to break up the strangle hold that the big boys squeeze on us. Kinefinity, given enough chance, could be part of this effort. 


    Well Kinefinity has a tonne of lens options: Sony E mount, MFT, EF, Nikon, & PL! (probably more I've forgotten)

    Thus even if Kinefinity folded the day after you started shooting with your new camera, that wouldn't be such a big deal as you wouldn't be stuck with a dead ecosystem to the same extent as what happened with Kinefinity.

     

    10 hours ago, Matthew Hartman said:

    It has me questioning how long Arri and RED will be able to justify their astronomical prices as the gap in image quality narrows. I'm sure they'll come up with some lame justification and ppl will lap it up. 

    "Industry Standard"

     

     

    10 hours ago, Matthew Hartman said:

    Which is odd as he takes on plenty of "underground" audio gear quite frequently.

    He doesn't. He just reviews low end audio gear (generally, not always. But the ratio is heavily skewed to low end over pro gear), thus I suppose it gives the "underground" feel??? I dunno, it has never ever felt like that to me. 


    And the reason is mostly reviews low end audio gear, is because he is first a videographer. Thus naturally it is consistent with his channel that he reviews low end audio gear that is targeted to and appropriate for a videographer. He is however a very good videographer, thus takes sound more seriously than many other videographers out there. 

     

     

  6. 10 hours ago, Matthew Hartman said:

    I'll have to look into the Alexa Classic. God help my back. 

    I'll prepare now your back's eulogy.

    Have shot a fair amount with a RED ONE (which is kinda similar ish size), and OUCH

     

    10 hours ago, Matthew Hartman said:

    I know the ursa mini is not really "mini" in terms of other smaller offerings and it does concearn me. It also means I'll have to get a bigger 3 axis stabilizer (eventually) like a Ronin, which I'm not exactly "thrilled" about. I appreciate the smaller workflow of my NX1. 

     

    You'll need a very very big gimbal indeed!

    Basically of the ones I listed, the only "small" cameras are: GH5S/EVA1/Terra. 
    The rest of them you'll need to take a totally different approach to how you'd do it with a NX1. 

     

    10 hours ago, Matthew Hartman said:

    Panasonic EVA1 / VariCam / GH5


    Note I said GH5S, not GH5

     

    10 hours ago, Matthew Hartman said:

    Great feature set, ergonomics, don't like the image. Too digital and flat for my taste.  


    Really?! I reckon Varicam perhaps has the "best" image right now. (and EVA1/GH5S is somewhat inspired by that)

     

    10 hours ago, Matthew Hartman said:

    Sony FS7 / Sony PMW-F5

    Again, has a very digital image, not my cup of tea. Sony also seems to have a hard time with skin tones. Would rather not have to constantly tweak that in post.  


    Maybe  you haven't watched enough camera tests of them? Here you go, watch this:
     


    Anywho.....  a bit more seriously, I think their image gets a bit underrated. Look into the LC709A LUT, and hang out on dvxuser (because the F5, and even FS7, only very rarely gets discussed here as EOSHD is a different market niche) before making a final decision on Sony.

    http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/forumdisplay.php?219-PMW-Cameras-(-amp-temp-FS7-FS5)

    http://www.hingsberg.com/2014/06/f55-matches-arri-alexas-color/

    https://www.sony.fi/pro/support/attachment/1237494271390/1237494271399/sony-look-profiles-summary.pdf

    https://www.provideocoalition.com/lutcalc-trials-and-errors-plus-a-free-lut/

    https://cameramanben.github.io/LUTCalc/

     

     

     

  7. On 1/21/2018 at 6:30 AM, Cinegain said:

    Probably like lenses: 60%, cameras: 30%, rest, well yeah, 10%.

    Well at least you spent double the amount on lenses than you did on camera bodies, that is healthier than the other way round!

     

    On 1/21/2018 at 6:30 AM, Cinegain said:

    Do think you can make quite affordable audio solutions work if you know where they really suck and avoid ever being in that position...


    Yes, picking good locations for audio (when you have that control) is winning half the war. 

     

     

  8. 23 hours ago, Mattias Burling said:

    I have a memory about them not carring about paying for prores either.


    Actually I think it was just a case of them being premature in announcing it? Or there being some kind of lag in getting listed by Apple.

    15 hours ago, noone said:

    The more I use clear zoom for Jpeg stills and video with Sony, the more I hope Nikon (and Canon) does something similar IE a virtually lossless variable digital zoom up to 2x.

     


    All Nikon FX cameras that I know of have also have a DX mode as well, which works for stills and video recording. 

    Very different to Canon's approach which is to actively discourage you from using EF-S lens!!

  9. 23 hours ago, Kisaha said:

     Excellent article, except I feel it made two big omissions: Nikon D7500 & Panasonic G80/85

    I'd happily buy or recommend either of them over a $1K NX1 (of course... if I spotted a NX1 even cheaper than that, I'd quickly change my tune!).

    As I understand why they rated the NX1 over the likes of the GH5S or a7Smk2, as on a per dollar basis they just simply are not as good value as a secondhand NX1!

    But the G80 & D7500 are very similar in price (in fact the Panasonic is notably cheaper), and are each very good film/photography cameras for their price. 

    Plus of course they're both lens mount systems which are still actively developed, and I'm totally confident that they'll still be "current systems" (vs the dead system of NX mount) in 5 years time (heck, you probably wouldn't want to casually bet against them still be around in 10 years either!). 

     

    17 hours ago, Matthew Hartman said:

    One of the worse examples I saw was Cinema5D's inexplicable review of the camera.


    That was a turning point which lead to Cinema5D dropping off my radar as one of my "regular always reads" (while Newsshooter, Redshark News, of course EOSHD, and a few others still remain). 

     

    17 hours ago, Matthew Hartman said:

    However, re-orgs are quite common in tech. Microsoft has about 3-4 per year. 


    That many per year seems a bit nuts to me. Must lead to a lot of wasted effort with endless churn.

     

     

  10. On 1/19/2018 at 7:16 AM, HurtinMinorKey said:

    Also, I would have have considered going wit the BMPCC but the lack of FPS and resolution is an issue. 

    No the BMPCC, the Micro. The smaller size helps immensely for VR! And is already a popular choice with some people. But you're right, lack of resolution can be a bummer. (so just use more cameras....  ?)


     

    On 1/19/2018 at 7:16 AM, HurtinMinorKey said:

    Z cam is an interesting option: It is slightly lower resolution, although the low-light performance might be worth the trade-off.  

    What do you mean?

    GoPro Hero5 Black has a max resolution of 3840 x 2160

    Z Cam E1 has a max resolution of 4096 x 2160

    That is close enough, I wouldn't really bother to call it in favor of either one. But if you are, then technically the Z Cam E1 has higher resolution over the GoPro. 

     

    On 1/19/2018 at 7:16 AM, HurtinMinorKey said:

    BTW, I don't know why the mods moved this to the BMCC forum. Maybe because that's where I typically post? 

    It is odd, maybe you posted here by accident without realising it?

  11. 15 hours ago, Matthew Hartman said:

    Right now, I see the most value in the ursa mini 4.6k.  The 4.6 pro is nice, but I really dont need all the extra SDI connections for my purposes. Or do I? 


    The built in ND filters (let alone all the other improvements) is enough to make the URSA Mini Pro an automatic no brainer buy over the original 4.6K

    The only reason to go with the older URSA Mini 4.6K is if you find an amazing secondhand deal.  (because secondhand deals on the newer URSA Mini Pro can still be scarce on the ground)

     

     

    15 hours ago, Matthew Hartman said:

    Help me work through this mental exercise. I'll have a budget of about $7k very shortly. The fact that I can spend that much and get near-Alexa quality within broadcast standards blows my mind. 

     


    That is almost enough to literally buy an Arri Alexa Classic secondhand. Seriously.

    In your budget level, as well as the URSA Mini Pro (and Arri Alexa, if you don't mind the weight! Which is very substantial) then I'd consider:

    Panasonic EVA1
    Sony FS7 (mk1 or mk2, obviously mk2 is better but better bargains to be found with the mk1 which is almost kinda the same)
    Kinefinity Terra 4K (perhaps my favourite choice right now at this price point, at least until the next NAB rolls around and BMD announces another amazing new camera...)
    Sony PMW-F5 (if super super lucky looking around secondhand and you stretch your budget a teeny bit... if so, it then becomes my favourite choice!)
    Panasonic GH5S (and spend all the saved money on lights/audio/lenses/holiday!)

    (I did not mention C200 as I think it is dumb it lacks a "middle codec"!)

    15 hours ago, Matthew Hartman said:

    Also, naturally I'll be looking for a fast/fixed zoom covering a good focal range on the EF mount too. I have two fast Canon FD lens' and a Helios 44 to get me started. 

     


    Is new lenses within your mentioned $7K budget, or is there extra budget for this?

  12. 15 hours ago, Grégory LEROY said:

    - I f I understand, you need Sony to M43 adapter + this sony focal reducer adapter = stacking, isn't it?

    Oh very sorry, only very hastily read @ntblowz post! So when he said "14mm Panasonic pancake" I thought he meant the specific adapter for that. 

    Anyway, even with the one he said, there is still no MFT to E mount adapter at all?! As you're using a screw on wide angle, direct onto the front of the lens. 

    And the one I use is the Panasonic DMW-GWC1. But yup, the Sony VCL-ECU1 could achieve the same result in the end. 

  13. 20 hours ago, mercer said:

    Yeah but the problem is people on this site seem more interested in the main forum where the tech is discussed than the shooting sub-forum where creativity is showcased.


    I kinda like that this forum just mostly has a "main forum", as I've seen too many other forums decline if they try to split off into too many minor subforums to try and cater to every possible niche. 

    15 hours ago, Mattias Burling said:

    Sub forums kills forums.


    Exactly. 

    Sub forums only make sense once you get to a very high traffic volume. (such as say dvxuser had, but then they made waaaaaay too many sub forums, which is now killing it. So even if a website does have the traffic volume to support sub forums, the extra sub forums should still be added in at a sensible pace which matches the rate of the growth of the overall forum size. )

  14. On 1/20/2018 at 2:59 AM, Grégory LEROY said:

    Do you know if the tokina vignet a lot with GH5 and speedbooster XL?

    Remember that at around 16mm (or 14ish?) you can even use the Tokina lens on a FF camera! Thus is certain to cover at the same focal length a GH5 with a focal reducer. 

     

    17 hours ago, ntblowz said:

    Back then the budget UW lens for m43 is Panasonic 14mm 2.5 with Sony VCL-ECU1, that will give you 21mm focal length with f2.5 to boot. 

    That is exactly what I use on my BMPCC for vlogging!

     

    16 hours ago, Grégory LEROY said:

    don't know if it's a good idea to stack adapters..

    You're not stacking any adapters at all.

     

  15. On 1/20/2018 at 3:11 AM, zerocool22 said:

    haha yeah, if the wireless system you have costs more then the camera you are shooting with, then you are doing something wrong :D


    It happens more often than you think. People shooting on say a GH4 on a gimbal with a wireless follow focus. 

  16. On 1/19/2018 at 11:55 PM, Cinegain said:

    I think the number of threads I've openend in my history of EOSHD can be counted on one hand... or one finger even.

    You'll need more than one finger. You'll need three fingers! So yup, one hand is plenty with fingers to spare. 

     

    On 1/20/2018 at 12:41 AM, Oliver Daniel said:

    Some people are just really unsure, because choosing the right camera as a beginner, is overwhelming and daunting. 


    I can still remember the daunting task I had of choosing my first ever DSLR (the Nikon D50) and choosing my first ever camera to film with (Panasonic GH1).

     

     

  17. 20 hours ago, Cinegain said:

    Speaking of soundrecorders... has this totally gone past all of us? There's a new H1 version in town, the H1n (*video below was posted by them 4 weeks ago)

    Nope, it didn't go past me! I knew about it even before it was officially announced. 

    But it is just very uninteresting and unappealing. Thus I didn't talk about it. 

     

    3 hours ago, Kisaha said:

    In film school we were told that sound and sight are 50-50. Just count your image spending money, and then the sound. What is the percentage? 99,8 to 0,2?

    I don't think I want to add up the money I spent last year on sound gear so I can calculate the ratio.....   as the total would be scary!

    But I can safely say the ratio would be high indeed!

    Because on the camera side of the equation: I purchased the Z Cam E1, think I might have got a couple of lenses or so, oh and the Samsung Gear 360VR camera. Plus a few bits and bobs like a variable ND filter and a VCT plate/rails. However that is pretty much all I did for the year when it comes to camera gear! But sound gear? Oh boy, a lot....

     

    20 hours ago, Cinegain said:

    --- ah, I've found you back in the Newsshooter article comments...

    I don't *only* post to EOSHD ;-) 
     

    20 hours ago, Cinegain said:

    Mmmkai. Fair enough. Still think it can have some application though (personal music recording), as it's also just a mic itself and it's cheap, lol.

    Yeah, but there is no shortage of options for small portable handheld recorders like that. (I for instance own a Zoom H1 original and the Tascam DR22WL)

    And this new model is no great leap forward over the original H1

     

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