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5 minutes ago, jonpais said:

This seems very reasonably priced but Panasonic, Sony and Fuji offer entirely different types of cameras and have not been ‘sticking it’ to anybody. The a7 III, X-H1 and GH5* are all competitively priced. 

The a7 III, X-H1 and GH5* are all competitively priced when you can buy this for 995, I want some of your drugs! They are Twice the price!

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Just now, webrunner5 said:

The a7 III, X-H1 and GH5* are all competitively priced when you can buy this for 995, I want some of your drugs! They are Twice the price!

First, it’s $1,295. Second, as @wolf33d says, to many, features like reliable AF-C are worth their weight in gold. And no drugs here, thanks.

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@wolf33d nice to see you there, no matter the incipient focus I believe they will improve to implement tap to focus going with the new touchscreen at least : )

On the discussion between both of you, Jon and Don, I think they really are horses for courses. This new camera is a complete different product indeed, no matter the coincidences : )) A league of its own :-)

Dual ISO is actually truly interesting, not only for the open possibilities we've already known from that couple of models recently introduced by Panasonic.

Our good Dave (Altizer) has inferred this could be the sensor we know from GH5S. Can the fact he reported it directly from their NAB booth really mean something for the subject matter? We know too little so far. Perhaps Dave can add anything on topic whenever possible.

I am glad they had placed their bets through the 4/3" route though.

 

EDIT -- Seems my post popped up in the middle of something substantially and really meaningful, hey fellas...?! LOL :-)

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11 minutes ago, jonpais said:

Troll.

Do you even have any clue how powerful this new camera really is? This is not a damn Panny G7, this is a mini FS7. This is a Big Time, Big Boy camera. The GH5 is like a every camera out there under 2500 bucks. I am not sure you have Never shot a camera in ProRes, or Raw video. It is what top end stuff uses. The Codec in this thing is Miles ahead of all the cameras I listed. This thing is a Pro piece of equipment. If this thing would have cost 3000 dollars I think it would be a bargain.

ProRes is top stuff. This is a list of the items that use it. We ain't talking this is in a G85, or a 700D Kiss camera! Pro stuff. AF-C, really that is why you don't like it, Really.

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT200321

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3 minutes ago, webrunner5 said:

Do you even have any clue how powerful this new camera really is? This is not a damn Panny G7, this is a mini FS7. This is a Big Time, Big Boy camera. The GH5 is like a every camera out there under 2500 bucks. I am not sure you have Never shot a camera in ProRes, or Raw video. It is what top end stuff uses. The Codec in this thing is Miles ahead of all the cameras I listed. This thing is a Pro piece of equipment. If this thing would have cost 3000 dollars I think it would be a bargain.

ProRes is top stuff. This is a list of the items that use it. We ain't talking this is in a G85, or a 700D Kiss camera! Pro stuff. AF-C, really that is why you don't like it, Really.

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT200321

I never said anything about not liking anything, Don. I would choose this for some jobs, Panny, Sony or Fuji for others. 

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29 minutes ago, jonpais said:

First, it’s $1,295. Second, as @wolf33d says, to many, features like reliable AF-C are worth their weight in gold. And no drugs here, thanks.

This is not a Panny G7, this is a mini FS7. This is a Big Time, Big Boy camera. The GH5 is like a every camera out there under 2500 bucks specs wise. The Codec in this thing is Miles ahead of all the cameras I listed. This thing is a Pro piece of equipment. If this thing would have cost 3000 dollars I think it would be a bargain. The people that are going to buy this camera are Not going to loose one minutes sleep that Maybe it doesn't have AF-C in it. Hell maybe it does, I don't care if it doesn't. Plus I take lots of Legal prescription Drugs. And some of them are Pretty damn desirable on the street. I am sure you do also.

ProRes is top stuff. This is a list of the items that use it. We ain't talking this is in a G85, or a 700D Kiss camera!

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT200321

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Canon guy here.  Still own a T3i.  Bought a BMPCC for video during fire sale because... no brainer.

Blackmagic has done it again.  I have to see some camera tests to evaluate DR and highlight roll off but I have a feeling this is going to be a winner.  I just can't justify buying a different brand of camera.  Full Davinci resolve thrown in for giggles?!  Amazing.

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4 minutes ago, jonpais said:

 

I never said anything about not liking anything, Don. I would choose this for some jobs, Panny, Sony or Fuji for others. 

Well I will agree this new BM is not for everyone that is for damn sure. It is not going to be a speed camera, or probably one you take on a trip of a lifetime. But this is a gift from heaven. This is a miracle and the price, I just can't believe it. It is most peoples dream camera on here, at least it is mine. This thing just made my Sony A7s look very Damn Old.  And it is a killer camera.

And for me it is 995. I was going to buy the full blown Resolve anyways even before this came out.

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4 minutes ago, webrunner5 said:

This is not a Panny G7, this is a mini FS7. This is a Big Time, Big Boy camera. The GH5 is like a every camera out there under 2500 bucks specs wise. The Codec in this thing is Miles ahead of all the cameras I listed. This thing is a Pro piece of equipment. If this thing would have cost 3000 dollars I think it would be a bargain. The people that are going to buy this camera are Not going to loose one minutes sleep that Maybe it doesn't have AF-C in it. Hell maybe it does, I don't care if it doesn't. Plus I take lots of Legal prescription Drugs. And some of them are Pretty damn desirable on the street. I am sure you do also.

ProRes is top stuff. This is a list of the items that use it. We ain't talking this is in a G85, or a 700D Kiss camera!

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT200321

Why do you keep insisting I take drugs? What is your problem, man?

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It is funny the way this camera is changing the way you address the GH5S model now, isn't it our good friend Don? ; ) I think we both know how Jon is plainly aware of the power of this BMD introduction and their new introductory price on this game now... :-)

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4 minutes ago, Emanuel said:

It is funny the way this camera is changing the way you address the GH5S model now, isn't it our good friend Don? ; ) I think we both know how Jon is plainly aware of the power of this BMD introduction and their new introductory price on this game now... :-)

The camera game is rough.  I feel bad for Panny.  I honestly thought about a G7 or something like that just to get a taste of 4k without breaking the bank on a GH5, but then... Blackmagic.

This thing is my next filming camera.  I will probably get a full frame Canon sometime in the next year for stills but Blackmagic has my video money.  I honestly thought about a C series camera but I'll pass for now.  I can get the Blackmagic and try that out.  Even if I don't like it for some bizarre reason it is only $1,000 (gonna keep Resolve).  The depreciation on this camera is going to be minuscule.  Sorry C200.  I'll let you plummet in price before I look at you.

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17 minutes ago, Damphousse said:

The camera game is rough.  I feel bad for Panny.  I honestly thought about a G7 or something like that just to get a taste of 4k without breaking the bank on a GH5, but then... Blackmagic.

This thing is my next filming camera.  I will probably get a full frame Canon sometime in the next year for stills but Blackmagic has my video money.  I honestly thought about a C series camera but I'll pass for now.  I can get the Blackmagic and try that out.  Even if I don't like it for some bizarre reason it is only $1,000 (gonna keep Resolve).  The depreciation on this camera is going to be minuscule.  Sorry C200.  I'll let you plummet in price before I look at you.

Really, this is a game changer... Reminds me RED's proposal some other NAB a dozen of years ago but for indies, genuinely, this time :-)

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21 minutes ago, Emanuel said:

It is funny the way this camera is changing the way you address the GH5S model now, isn't it our good friend Don? ; ) I think we both know how Jon is plainly aware of the power of this BMD introduction and their new introductory price on this game now... :-)

Well Jon is right, this camera is not right for the vast majority of people. It has too complex of a Codec for the average person for one reason. And I really doubt AF will be great, not that the GH5 is special either, and no IBIS is a bummer for a lot of people now. I must admit it would have been nice to have it. I am a tripod guy so in reality you have to turn it off on one, so no biggy to me it's not there.

But this Run n Gun trying to get Stabilization and AF right all the time I think is a bridge too far. Not a big fan of the Flying look and wonky looking AF that can happen when you push it too far. Now I don't want to see motion like crazy either. But different strokes for different folks. I mean I will probably buy a stabilizer for mine if I get one. There are times it works no doubt.

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