Adobe Rant

[leeys 101]

Resolve doesn't handle 10bit? I've been using it a lot lately and I'm liking it more and more. Runs great even on older hardware.

[Jn- 85]

Ok, the bad news, the new GH5 firmware update ver 1.1 which gives FHD 10 bit 422 has the same readability issues in Vegas, maybe the same for Adobe.  The good news is on running CV2MXF.bat, (see my previous post) the conversion fixes these FHD Files also.  I tested both .mov and .mp4 file versions.

[marcuswolschon 36]

8 minutes ago, leeys said:

Resolve doesn't handle 10bit? I've been using it a lot lately and I'm liking it more and more. Runs great even on older hardware.

What sich posting are you referring to?

I use Resolve with 10Bit ProRes 4:2:2HQ on a 10bit display all the time and also with 12bit CinemaDNG.

DO you mean it doesn't reat 10bit h.265 profiles/levels?

[Jn- 85]

How do I delete a post anyone, while the "edit" option is still active?

[Oliver Daniel 1,286]

9 hours ago, Oliver Daniel said:

I know a solution. 

It's called Final Cut Pro X. 

The days are are long gone when Apple radically changed it. This is now an absolutely incredible edit program. 

In comparison, Premiere feels vastly outdated compared to FCPX's fluidity, speed, reliability, innovation, intuitive usability. It's just fantastic. One of Apples best properties. 

If you're frustrated with Premiere, FCPX is a no-brainer. 

Time for people to let go of the past and wake up.

 

 

Ah, well we're buggered on that solution then.

I know a lot of users on here struggle to see the value in Mac.. for me I just can't use anything else, even if it is double the price of a comparable PC. I find them much more enjoyable and intuitive to use. Also it has FCPX, which is an absolute blast. 

Might be worth checking out DaVinci 14. 

[Orangenz 415]

1 hour ago, Jn- said:

How do I delete a post anyone, while the "edit" option is still active?

Just edit the text into something like "post deleted"

1 hour ago, Oliver Daniel said:

 

Ah, well we're buggered on that solution then.

I know a lot of users on here struggle to see the value in Mac.. for me I just can't use anything else, even if it is double the price of a comparable PC. I find them much more enjoyable and intuitive to use. Also it has FCPX, which is an absolute blast. 

Might be worth checking out DaVinci 14. 

GH5 10 bit fix.pdf

[jgharding 566]

On the whole I like Premiere as an NLE and se it daily, the native grading is much better than FCPX's, but Adobe's atitude to bugs is terrible.

There are still horrendous bugs in audio, the mixer and automation, if using a mixture of high DPI and standard displays and so on...

The same bugs reported endlessley, thread after thread, year after year, no solutions.

The same simple feature requests over and over, completely ignored...

BUT WAIT! NEW MAGIC EDIT BUTON (or some similar gimmick)

[Neumann Films 686]

7 minutes ago, jgharding said:

On the whole I like Premiere as an NLE and se it daily, the native grading is much better than FCPX's, but Adobe's atitude to bugs is terrible.

There are still horrendous bugs in audio, the mixer and automation, if using a mixture of high DPI and standard displays and so on...

The same bugs reported endlessley, thread after thread, year after year, no solutions.

The same simple feature requests over and over, completely ignored...

BUT WAIT! NEW MAGIC EDIT BUTON (or some similar gimmick)

You mean the audio cutting back during play back and not coming back unless you pause and then hit play again? Ugh...it really is time for a change.  

[jgharding 566]

15 minutes ago, Neumann Films said:

You mean the audio cutting back during play back and not coming back unless you pause and then hit play again? Ugh...it really is time for a change.  

That one is very rare for me now, but does happen.

The MAIN one is SO ANNOYING. I mix the audio with plugins and faders and so on, I export the finished film and IT IGNORES ALL OF IT! The audio is just as though all faders are reset and plug-in slots are empty.

As a result I have to export audio seperately, and bring back in. It's absurd.

I also mean VST plug-ins being completely reset, plug-in interfaces appearing at unreadably tiny size on hi-DPI displays, phantom automation being recorded without you asking for it...

There's lots more niggling bugs, but I don't think there's a lot of interest in fixing them

If they just kept all the features the same for a year, but added loads and loads of bug fixes, simple practical features and compatability improvements, I for one would be a lot happier

[Neumann Films 686]

11 minutes ago, jgharding said:

That one is very rare for me now, but does happen.

The MAIN one is SO ANNOYING. I mix the audio with plugins and faders and so on, I export the finished film and IT IGNORES ALL OF IT! The audio is just as though all faders are reset and plug-in slots are empty.

As a result I have to export audio seperately, and bring back in. It's absurd.

I also mean VST plug-ins being completely reset, plug-in interfaces appearing at unreadably tiny size on hi-DPI displays, phantom automation being recorded without you asking for it...

There's lots more niggling bugs, but I don't think there's a lot of interest in fixing them

If they just kept all the features the same for a year, but added loads and loads of bug fixes, simple practical features and compatability improvements, I for one would be a lot happier

Oh yeah, I have had that happen before.  I think I resorted to rendering a master .WAV audio file and that worked.  I'm currently getting the audio cutting out thing.  I found multiple threads from 2013 that we're never answered on the issue.

[Mckinise 26]

I moved over to Davinci Resolve Studio.  Version 12.5 on PC has a few issues (GH5 10-bit 4k) and is a bit less complete as an NLE, but the engineers behind it have been pretty good at getting bug fixes and other verified issues solved by the next update. 

[silvertonesx24 148]

16 minutes ago, Mckinise said:

I moved over to Davinci Resolve Studio.  Version 12.5 on PC has a few issues (GH5 10-bit 4k) and is a bit less complete as an NLE, but the engineers behind it have been pretty good at getting bug fixes and other verified issues solved by the next update. 

For me, Premiere Pro is rock solid. Resolve is a crashfest. I guess it just depends what each of is trying to do with it.

I just can't move to Resolve for editing until they figure out another way around database-based project management. For those with multiple systems or offices, it's a complete non-starter

[Mckinise 26]

 Davinci Resolve 14 Announcement.  No clue what is in it yet.  I'm watching it live.

[Dustin 91]

Been a premiere user for 4 years now and although at times it has been buggy, lately I've been fine! Also I've found their tech support fine- they've always fixed my issues, screen share and all. But again I'm not working on GH5 footage and I usually update my computer when I have to. I tend to not be on the latest gen of anything until I'm positive the kinks are worked out.

[Geoff CB 967]

1 hour ago, Mckinise said:

 Davinci Resolve 14 Announcement.  No clue what is in it yet.  I'm watching it live.

"Support for decoding H.264 Intra 422 10bit - DaVinci Resolve Studio only" SHOTS FIRED!

$300, playback speed has been VASTLY improved for me.

https://forum.blackmagicdesign.com/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=58544

[marcuswolschon 36]

What? There is a clip format that the free version can not load? There goes the workflow of giving assistants and directors in distributed volunteer projects the free version to make preparations or small changes themself while only I have a dongle for the studio version.

Yes...the people using the beta confirmed it. Only the studio version plays backl GH5 10bit clips. The light version doesn't.

 

(Also no new camera including no replacment for the 4 year old FullHD-only Pocket Cinema Camer was announced.)

[Geoff CB 967]

17 minutes ago, marcuswolschon said:

What? There is a clip format that the free version can not load? There goes the workflow of giving assistants and directors in distributed volunteer projects the free version to make preparations or small changes themself while only I have a dongle for the studio version.

Yes...the people using the beta confirmed it. Only the studio version plays backl GH5 10bit clips. The light version doesn't.

 

(Also no new camera including no replacment for the 4 year old FullHD-only Pocket Cinema Camer was announced.)

That's right, the FREE version doesn't support the advanced codec. Only the insanely expensive $300 dollar version does.

[DPC 111]

3 hours ago, silvertonesx24 said:

I just can't move to Resolve for editing until they figure out another way around database-based project management. For those with multiple systems or offices, it's a complete non-starter

That's exactly what I thought. Then I wondered if I simply hadn't understood how Resolve works. What I like a lot about FCPX is being able to just create a new library for each job and know exactly where it, and the backups are.

[marcuswolschon 36]

1 minute ago, Geoff CB said:

That's right, the FREE version doesn't support the advanced codec. Only the insanely expensive $300 dollar version does.

I still have to get used to that new price point. (Luckily I sold my second dongle a while ago.)

Up to now the free version was missing high end features and was limited to FullHD.

Not being able to read some camera files is inappropriate.

It would force you to aquire in 8bit in the first place and you can't make the decision to buy the studio version later and then take advantage of the 10bit 4K footage you had aquired back then.

[Geoff CB 967]

But it also doesn't support H265 in the free version either, also the free version does support projects up to UHD.