Robert Collins

Saw that as well but probably his mistake. Can’t possibly imagine nobody else would have mentioned it. 

A quite critical review from Tony & Chelsea - based on the pre-production model.
 

DJI is impressing me a lot with cutting edge features and true innovation continuously. Sony and canikon don’t impress me. Especially Canikon who serves you the same conservative specs and features years after years. Let’s be honest, those « reinvented mirrorless » have nothing reinvented. 
I wished so much à Chinese and or US company would make consumer FF cameras, everything would be far different. 
When DJI releases an APSC cam it comes with RAW and Prores Raw. Not Sony 8bit XAVC or bullshit canon 800mbps aging codecs... 
well there is an American company called black magic and guess what? They give us 4K60p raw for less money. They are just too video Focused. I wished they made mirorless FF hybrids.

I do think that there are quite a few 'gotchas' in these specs which few people are talking about.
Probably most important - in Phillip Bloom's video, he states that 4k FOV (5.7k downrezzed to 4k using the whole sensor) records in 8 bit rather than 10 bit. You can get 4k 10 bit but only in 4k HQ mode (which is essentially a 1.5x crop using half the sensor.) Now its possible that Bloom was using preproduction firmware and this might change but I doubt it (I have looked in the instruction manual but there is no mention.)
This would be bad news. Either you use the full sensor and get 8 bit 4k or half the sensor (and lose a stop) and get 10 bit 4k. This isnt a dealbreaker for me but I suspect it might be for others.

I do think that there are quite a few 'gotchas' in these specs which few people are talking about.
Probably most important - in Phillip Bloom's video, he states that 4k FOV (5.7k downrezzed to 4k using the whole sensor) records in 8 bit rather than 10 bit. You can get 4k 10 bit but only in 4k HQ mode (which is essentially a 1.5x crop using half the sensor.) Now its possible that Bloom was using preproduction firmware and this might change but I doubt it (I have looked in the instruction manual but there is no mention.)
This would be bad news. Either you use the full sensor and get 8 bit 4k or half the sensor (and lose a stop) and get 10 bit 4k. This isnt a dealbreaker for me but I suspect it might be for others.

So refreshing to have a company announce a product and ship the next day.

It does offer a lossless 1.5 crop mode in 4k though.
Less so with the 'Pro' becaujse it has a variable aperture lens. The 'zoom' is fixed aperture.
Over at Mavicpilots.com, quite a few people are already saying their Mavic 2 has shipped.

I dont think the hack works on the A7x3 cameras because they dont have playmemories apps.

Maybe instead of making marketing posts on my forum, DJI can give me a drone?!

10 years on, Panasonic should really be leading things out front.
I don't know whether it is down to a smaller budget, or Panasonic upper-management not allowing total freedom, but it's sad that Sony and Nikon are out front when Panasonic were the ones to pioneer the entire market, at a time others were too scared to make the jump.
If anything dude, you are the one turning into a fanboy.

Actually, I am arguing the complete opposite - there is no replacement for displacement. I assume that as both M43 and FF use the same Sony sensors, their 'tech' is pretty much the same and it is the 'size' of the sensor that makes the difference.
As a matter of factual consideration, the Sony sensor will have less noise at base iso than an M43 sensor because its base iso is lower (unless of course you assume no noise!!!! with either.) And of course the A7xiii sensors all have dual ISO much the same as M43.
Really if people maintain that M43 iso performance matches FF they are really arguing in the face of logic, science and facts - which was the whole point of the debate.\, I am out of here. At some point equivalence debates just make you want to stab your head with a sharp pencil to quote @jonpais

A before and after screen grabs of a test HLG3 clip overexposed in camera by +1.7 stops

 
Original clip: https://www.dropbox.com/s/mmpb9iux6s713ac/C0002.MP4?dl=0

These specs. Video af? from where?

Yep.I will definitely take 2.7k/60p 10 bit over 4k/60p 8 bit any day.Hopefully the codec is much improved over the way that the Mavic pro handles sharpening/NR.
I have done hyperlapse with the Mavic Pro before but it is somewhat limited by the flight time and the need to do a prerun in waypoint mode before. Also the app on my Crystalsky limits photos to once every 10secs as opposed to once every 2secs on the smartphone. At once every 2 secs you are looking at a 1 second hyperlapse for every one minute of flight  time.
The rumored price tag for the Mavic 2 Pro is US$1499 for the basic kit. That is a 50% price increase over the Mavic. While this sounds a lot I think it is pretty 'fair' based on the rumored specs.

The M43 sensor dates back further than M43. Olympus had the 43 system which rather encompassed the 'small sensor, big camera' notion which compared to 'big sensor, small camera notion sounds pretty silly although some manufacturers still try it. Their arguments included that the 4:3 ratio made more efficient use of the lens image circle (I have to give them that) and that light from the lens image circle would be more perpendicular from a short flange distance resulting in sharper and brighter corners in the image (again some sense here.)
In my view they made two miscalculations. One rather obvious. 1) They probably didnt think that the cost of sensor silicon would fall as fast. It seems pretty clear though that sensor costs would fall (and there is only one in a camera) while lens costs (a variable) would remain pretty flat. 2) The other problem was near impossible to predict (I would have thought). That the emergence and dominance of even smaller sensor, smaller, cheaper (?) smartphone cameras would undercut them from below.
So in effect M43 has been squeezed by FF at the top and smartphones at the bottom. The fact that M43 is regressed to a small sensor, big camera approach rather indicates exactly how badly they have been undermined by smartphones. If you buy a really small M43 camera and put a really small (but slightly slow) zoom lens on it (which in terms of size and cost has an enormous advantage over FF) what you find is the image equality isnt much better than a smartphone.

And still no Cinelike D
I'm going to wait for the Leica version of it so I can feel as let down but with a slightly more elitist glow.

I always think that when M43 users see the need for extremely fast, large, heavy and expensive lenses, they are missing the point. BTW, the Zuiko 35-100 f2 weighs 1.65kg which is more than the Sony 70-200 2.8 GM. You see what you are really asking for is a bigger sensor....
https://camerasize.com/compact/#482.460,777.639,ha,t

Seems to me Panasonic are treading increasingly precariously on shaky ground. A lot of their decision making seems to be dubious to me. One example is their tepid follow up to the LX100 (described by DPR has 'possibly the best compact camera ever made'). Another would be the GH5s which took away Panasonic's class leadiing ibis and didnt resolve their video af problems. Once you take away ibis and admit that Panasonic's cant really video af you might as well buy a BMPCC 4k with its fatter codecs and bitrates at a lower price. So Panasonic ends up being squeezed by Sony at the 'techy' end of video that the likes of Black Magic at the 'Cinema' end of video. 

that LCD bezel...

M43 offers both limitations and advantages for video. However, their C-AF for video is totally unacceptable when compared to the competition and if they dont sort this out properly, I think the will continue to lose market share. I realize a lot of people here dont use or care about af for video but the average hybrid buyer will take it if he can get it. Panasonic has absolutely no excuses - they were the first company into mirrorless.
I dont see a future for Olympus in the camera business. They are forecasting to lose US$60m this year on sales of US$600m (their 8th loss in the last 10 years.) To put this in perspective - Olympus will lose US$150 on each of the 400,000 ILCs it expects to sell this year. This is not a business - it is a charity.
Sony has really stirred things up by releasing the A7iii - with such a strong feature set - at US$2000. They pretty obviously did this to position themselves pretty aggressively against the new competition they expect from Canon and Nikon. However all the other mirrorless manufacturers have been moving relentlessly upmarket for the last few years. According to CIPA the average shipped price of a mirrorless ILC has doubled in the past 6 years (while the average price of a DSLR has increased 20%). But a side effect of Sony's US$2k FF is that it somewhat pulls the rug out under the US$1500-US$2000+ market for ILCs with smaller sensors (including Sony's soon to be released a6700.) Still photographers tend to be sensor size snobs.
Meanwhile I think Canon will continue to do well at the bottom end of the market, because it is the only manufacturer who focuses there.
Mirrorless made up 36% of ILC shipments in the first half of 2018 - good chance it will be over 50% in 2019.

M43 offers both limitations and advantages for video. However, their C-AF for video is totally unacceptable when compared to the competition and if they dont sort this out properly, I think the will continue to lose market share. I realize a lot of people here dont use or care about af for video but the average hybrid buyer will take it if he can get it. Panasonic has absolutely no excuses - they were the first company into mirrorless.
I dont see a future for Olympus in the camera business. They are forecasting to lose US$60m this year on sales of US$600m (their 8th loss in the last 10 years.) To put this in perspective - Olympus will lose US$150 on each of the 400,000 ILCs it expects to sell this year. This is not a business - it is a charity.
Sony has really stirred things up by releasing the A7iii - with such a strong feature set - at US$2000. They pretty obviously did this to position themselves pretty aggressively against the new competition they expect from Canon and Nikon. However all the other mirrorless manufacturers have been moving relentlessly upmarket for the last few years. According to CIPA the average shipped price of a mirrorless ILC has doubled in the past 6 years (while the average price of a DSLR has increased 20%). But a side effect of Sony's US$2k FF is that it somewhat pulls the rug out under the US$1500-US$2000+ market for ILCs with smaller sensors (including Sony's soon to be released a6700.) Still photographers tend to be sensor size snobs.
Meanwhile I think Canon will continue to do well at the bottom end of the market, because it is the only manufacturer who focuses there.
Mirrorless made up 36% of ILC shipments in the first half of 2018 - good chance it will be over 50% in 2019.

I think we have to be fairly careful when we go down this sort of path.
I am 100% behind the concept that we should give visionaries room to breath if we are going to  progress but that doesnt mean they should be immune from criticism.
My personal opinion of Elon Musk is that while he is a clearly a visionary (and more importantly is incredibly adept at getting financing to turn his vision towards reality) he also skirts the borders of 'vision' and 'hubris'. Take the fact that he launched a 'Tesla' into space. Fabulous but should we celebrate this as a 'hubris' or the 'pinnacle of human achievement'. And before anyone says achievement of anything at is worth celebrating, I would say that it is almost exactly 50 years since the US achieved landing the first person on the moon which largely proved that many things arent really worth achieving in the first place.
But we have a more significant problem. You see I seriously dont have any problem with Elon Musk doing exactly what he pleases with his money (on acid or not) rather like I do not have any problem with Trump being rather eccentric (with an unhealthy obsession with his daughter) - nbut I dont think it is wise to make him President of the US. So once, Elon Musk starts using other peoples money - he is CEO of a US$50bn public company - he has to be held to certain public standards or at least within the Law. Once someone is managing your capital 'who cares?' or 'he was probably on acid' just doesnt really cut it. 
Personally, I think there is a serious disconnect here. A 'visionary' who is essentially looking say 50 years in advance, is probably uniquely unqualified for running the day to day operations of a public company or being CEO of a company reporting quarterly earnings

The BM PK4 is probably going to be just like the BMPCC. A pain in the ass to use with pretty amazing output. It is not going to AF worth crap probably, no IBIS, no preset of just shoot and post to the web video, not going to use it on vacation, give it to your wife to take shots of the kids, on and on.  Bu it will be great LoL.
The Sony A7 mk III is the jack of all trades. And a master at a lot of the trades.  Probably the best Point n Shoot ever made. Other than better codecs I can't see nuch it is lacking in other than Big MP for landscape photos.
Though choice no doubt. PK4, Kind of a poor mans Cine camera, or A7 mk III, an all arounder that can get the job done with ease other than a really great Cine look.
 

The big advantage of a high resolution sensor is that it gives you a lot of flexibility to crop. Essentially with an A7riii you have 42mp FF, 18mp APS-C and 11mp M43 all wrapped up in one. Makes your lenses very versatile.

My experience too. You get reasonable DR, reasonable latitude to push files and colors and you can shoot down to iso125 which makes switching between stills and video a breeze.