PannySVHS

12 minutes ago, mercer said:

That seems like a good price for that lens, although I've never used one, I've always drooled over the Contax Zeiss 28mm f2 "The Hollywood." I assume they're similar in characteristics?

https://phillipreeve.net/blog/old-new-zeiss-2-828-vs-sony-fe-228-vs-minolta-mc-228/

This is the closest I found when it comes to a comparison. It has the "old" Zeiss Distagon 28mm 2.8 vs the new Sony 28mm 2.0.

The Zeiss 28 2.8 seems a great lens in its own right, with the 2.0 version having that little extra.

Phillip also linked to a review of the "Hollywood" Zeiss, stating the nickname is deserved, beautiful Bokeh characteristics for close to

distance transistions and interesting field curvage. This is an example of the wide open character in 24 MP of an A7:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/jannik_peters/26124031323/sizes/o/

43 minutes ago, Gregormannschaft said:

Isn't 28mm an awkward focal distance to work with? I much prefer 35mm but that might just be because I've always had a nice 35 knocking around. Heard good things about the Sony 28mm 2.0, but that focus by wire drives me mental. 

Vintage ftw!

On S35 28mm is a beautiful focal length in my opinion! Since owning a GX85 I discovered that even more, because careful framing with it is a joy due to its ibis.

So are talking about 35mm length on 36x24 sensor like the A7S you used to shoot some of the best A7S colors with? That would be like a 20mm on S35- beautiful as well!

That modern Zeiss 28mm ZE is supposed to be a heck of a lens, for around 1000 USD though! The Sony with fly by wire focussing is supposed to be about equally as good

when it comes to optical quality.

38 minutes ago, homestar_kevin said:

I own the Canon 28mm f/2 FD. 

If you like the 28mm f/2.8 Canon, go for the f/2.

 

Sounds great. I think I will do that. Heard good things about the Minolta too.

Not sure if the Vivitar, Komine, Kiron and so versions are that different from eachother or if it´s just lens folklore and part of lensporn.

By the way, different sort of bargain:

www.ebay.com/itm/ZEISS-Zeiss-Distagon-T-28mm-f-2-ZE-Lens-Canon-Fit-MINT-Condition-/263007244223?hash=item3d3c740fbf:g:PmAAAOSwH09ZKiBI

14 minutes ago, mercer said:

I've had all three, the Nikon, Canon and Minolta. I paid less than $200 for each of them. They are all excellent. I only kept the Nikon. But at one point I kept the Minolta and sold the Nikon. And then I bought another Nikon but just recently sold the Minolta. Really only because I don't have a camera to use the Minolta with any more. 

Shoot, out of likes! Lol Time big time!

@mercer, if it´s 1Gbps for 4K RAW, I´d be pleased with 250 Mbit for 2K RAW 12 bit for 24p and 10bit for 50/60p. Then I would sell all my stuff to get one.

Good thing I don´t have to right now   So future update for codec with higher framerate will be 10bit or still 8bit?

7 minutes ago, mercer said:

Original cLog was designed for 8bit color, so it's all good. Honestly I wouldn't even bother with the X-AVCS 4K anyway. You still need the cFast cards, so you may as well shoot Raw. If you need economy shoot MP4 for smaller projects and Raw for serious projects. 

Cannot argue that:) But maybe I can. 4k Raw is too much data, old c100 codec with 420 8bit is just C100 territory. So best to buy a C100 II and a 5DIII

Hallo!

I am a sucker for 28mm. My Canon FD 28mm 2.8 is a beautiful lens. Most of you guys have shot with one. Or anybody out there who has not tried it yet? Not possible!

I´m shooting it on m43 with a Lens Turbo giving me beautiful S35 look. Wide open it is as good as the Rokinon/Samyang 24mm 1.4 at 2.8!

But I am looking for that F2.0 magic. So I bought a Kiron 28mm F2.0 in brandnew condition. But boy, wide open it is not satisfying at all!

I´ve read that the Vivitar 28mm F2.0 is a different beast but so was my Kiron supposed to be. The Vivitar 1.9 seems very soft as well.

So any suggestions for the bargain shopper for a nice 28 mill 2.0? The Zeiss and Pentax lenses usually go way beyond the 400 USD mark.

Maybe a Canon FD 28 2.0 will do.

So what are your 28mm F2.0 super deals of the season? Something like:

-Nikon 28mm 2.0

-Canon FD 28 2.0

-Minolta MD 28 2.0

-Vivitar 28 2.0

cheers

20 minutes ago, jpfilmz said:

http://www.canonrumors.com/hands-on-with-the-canon-cinema-eos-c200-pricing/

As far as pricing goes, the new camera will be priced at £7,699 in the UK or $7,499 in US and is scheduled to begin shipping in July.

Definitely adding this to my kit. 
 

In Europe it´s about 8900 EUR, VAT included.

That woud be a C100ii plus a GH5 plus a JVC LS300.

First one having that DPAF, GH5 with 10bit and LS300 4K 422 with newest firmware.

C200 with 4k 24p RAW plus 8bit 420 150/35mbit as codec sounds odd.

Canon sure knows how to play the marketing game.

6 minutes ago, Bioskop.Inc said:

Yes, but if people are stupid enough to donate their money to rich people then that's their problem - they're idiots, but its their money. What also annoys me is when a film crowd sources & instead of saying they'll get a return on their investment, they get offered free tickets to the premiere or a walk on part - that's worse.

However, the real thing that gets my goat is when you hear all these stars saying that there aren't enough female directors. Yes it is true for film & it is a problem, but the solution isn't to give money to movie stars who haven't spent years learning their craft (no, acting in a film is not the same thing) & the end result is an average film - just compare the films of Andrea Arnold, Lynne Ramsey or Kelly Reichardt to say Angelina Jolie or Elizabeth banks. I know which ones i'll be watching!

Now the flip side, is that there are a lot of female directors working in TV dramas (not shit ones, but really good shows), so why don't they get a chance at films? The most recent example is Reed Morano, who directed the first few episodes of The Handmaid's Tale & consequently set the visual & narrative tone for the whole series - it's well worth a watch.

But, you just got to suck it up & realise that this industry isn't about what's fair....it's about who you know & how much money can be made.

 

Exellent points made!

12 hours ago, BTM_Pix said:

It covers both HD and 4K without vignetting but you must engage either the len's own doubler if you're using it in 4K mode but if its just HD then you have the option of using the EX-TELE function on the camera instead to achieve the same effect which avoids the light loss of the doubler.

Thanks for testin this! Would prefer the optical doubler for better resolution. The light loss should be similar to the digital crop in the way that the smaller sensor area has more noise

at the same aperture and ISO, which has been reported well about the Lumix Extele mode.

7 hours ago, jonpais said:

That's one beast of a lens!

Now, would be cool if GX85 and lens are powered both by a vmount, if electronic support for lens is needed. Kinda looking pretty cool!

@BTM_Pix, does the lens function without electricity, since it seems to have mechanical focus, aperture and zoom, beside the servo function?

Does it cover UHD or HD with the doubler?

Cine D then? Common that would be a Grand Hit! Maybe that exploit could be used for other hacks such as high big rate in HD!

Out of likes for today unfortunately! How did you do it? @mercer, is gonna have to buy two GX85 cameras now!!!

Cine D for GX85? How did you do it? Out of likes for today.

Maybe you should give it another thread title...AWESOME: CINE D HACK for GX85! Finally Cine D for your GX85

100mbit HD please-  it´s getting hot in here!:)

Thank you, Glenn, but rather a 5 to 10minute piece:)

I think they have a presence in front of the camera. But they are my collegues, not actors, so they might not want to appear in a longer version unfortunately.

And I need a story worth of 5 to 10 minutes of watching, also spoken and audible:) dialogue. Well, for now, good night.

12 hours ago, BTM_Pix said:

So I've been doing some stuff controlling the Panasonic cameras over wifi by mimicking their smartphone apps.

It's for something that might be useful for a few other people that I'll put up in a few weeks. Nothing earth shattering but could be of use if you use a gimbal...

Anyway, what I see is that when the camera accepts the remote control connection it sends back to the app what model it is and all of the applicable functions to enable in the menus of the app. So that includes colour profiles (including vlog by the way) and all of the different recording formats. I've then tried to construct the commands to send my PAL G7 the one for 1080p60 which is obviously something the camera is capable of but is locked out from the user by not appearing in the UI. Unfortunately it didn't accept it but I'm going to do some more poking around when I get back.

The point being that I have a hunch that someone smarter than me (which is a pretty much anyone with a computer) might be able to exploit this area if they can find a way to convince the G7 it is NTSC and not PAL. Ditto for getting the GX80 to think it is the G7 so it can have cinelike d for example or c4k as the sensors are the same it's just what Panasonic choose to lock out based on what the camera is told it is. 

 

Two thumbs up. Would love to have CineD on my GX80! For 60p you might wanna give this a try and check youtube for "unlock g70":)

A lot of videos, but original one is from a russian user.

3 minutes ago, BTM_Pix said:

I can offer you a speedboosted Contax Zeiss 50mm 1.7 vs speedboosted modern Nikon G 50mm vs non-speedboosted Sigma 35mm ART comparison on a GX80 if you're interested?

Totally!

21 hours ago, mercer said:

Honestly, if my grading ever looks pastellic... it's a mess up... either due to my bad skills or lack of calibrated monitor. If it ever looks good, it is probably accidental and I will not be able to replicate it. If it looks bad, it was accidental and I can replicate it every time...

This is A League comic material: "I can replicate it every time...". Cracking me up, pure genius! But seriously, you have nice subtle color palettes. If there is irritation or falseness in color it is most of the time due to our monitors. Thats why I got a monitor with 99.9% srgb space and a cheap one with maybe 80% to have a little more control over color variation.

12 hours ago, jonpais said:

@PannySVHS Lovely work, wish it had gone on longer. Beautiful colors, grain, everything. 

Thank you very much, Jon! Maybe a longer version would make sense. Got any ideas for the story? Condition would be, same setting and location and just two actors, to keep it simple and manageable to realize in a run and gun manner. So, up for ideas to reshoot this? Maybe indeed with a third actor? Maybe with my GX80? Though G6 has something, some nice roughness to it once it´s been graded.

oh, oh, pricey rig. by the way, i also find this topic of a broader interest.

what are the best handheld rigs for solo shooters on s35 or mft format cameras anyways,

manageing manual focus and iris too, all as one man? So this zacuto looks like a great thing. But expensive for poor nonprofessionals:)

And for real cameras:) Not putting down DSLMs, I´m myself a DSLM shooter:)

Hey guys, it seems your findings are not optimistic enough when it comes to the benefits of 10 bit in the GH5 for only 20% more data you get 3 to 4 times amount of shades.

This example has been shown before and is showing the obvious benefits of 10bit in the GH5 versus its 8bit.

Glenn, you did the right thing with the 5DIII, because it must be a very satisfying experience. I would try that route as well but to me the storage part and

overall expense is out of reach for now. I think you are great at cinematography. Your approach has inspired me to discipline my shots and to plan them out better!

I am still impressed what you do with handcamera work and monopod work as well- always great framing and pace and rhythm of movement.

About your grading: it reflects the natural light well, which you are shooting under mostly.

So your colors are not as crazy as mine   What I would also be interested to see, if

you would approach stronger color and tonal contrasts as well besides some of your muted and pastellic palettes.

Thank you, Glenn! What an awesome compliment! Would love to do bigger stuff. It has its advantages to shoot with a cam like G6. I still think it is the

best rebel cam. Sorry Canon, you´re second:) To me it feels better in hand than my G7, which has sharp edges on the mode dial and feels

not friendly to the hand so to say. GX80 has underwhelming HD. 4k acquisition for HD delivery still feels weird to me. But its a very nice image.

So guess gonna sell the G7, which has only been through one testrun. I bought it after my GX80 for the nice HD, swivel screen, much better EVF and mic in.

GX80 stabilization is nice but not magic. I would say its about the same as the OIS from my 14-45mm lens.

I still got one G6 shortfilm in the editing and post to show soon hopefully. I´m awful when it comes

to fiddling with the colors, never finding an end it seems Well, thanks a lot for the beautiful words, my friend!

By the way, vid shot again with the Canon FD 28mm 2.8, wide open. Great lens. Best for the price. Bought a Kiron 28mm 2.0 a few weeks ago and

found it disappointing in the image department.

Hey guys n dolls! Still love my G6. G7 didnt get properly tested yet, don´t like the body ergos. GX80 getting a hell lotta tested but it´s not so much fun as

my G6 was. Yet. Maybe because GX80s HD is kinda underwhelming and without a cage its a little small though beautiful to hold, kinda slippery too.

Bought a cage, so thats kinda helpful. Guess my run and gun days will become fewer and it´s time to get used to proper big and fat setups and cameras.

Big Bertha Urs(ul)a

Hey friends!

time to post some g6 footage again. shot 8months ago. I lit and shot this in 1.5 hours, no planning ahead of the shoot. All quick n pretty style!

Talents´voices didnt make it in the edit because of my not so pretty audio job. Edit took a looong time, because I missed some shots.

So next time, at least a small shotlist:) Panny G6 still a great cam. I like the ergos better than the G7. Grip is more lovely to hold and it somehow feels more solid.

Still shooting with my G6, GX80 and G7 for test shots only so far:) Hope you can enjoy this faulty exercise of mine. cheers, Marty

7 hours ago, OliKMIA said:

I played with the VFR mode this afternoon. Added a bit of Twixtor to get a 20x/600fps equivalent slow motion. Each 10 seconds sequence in the video represent 0.5 sec in real life. 

Of course the VFR hurts the image quality and Twixtor soften the image but the result is not bad. I really love the GH5.

 

I think the 120fps mode has the same quality as the 24p, 60p modes. Pixelperfect and clean HD resolution.

How about sending that through Twixtor for 240fps and 480fps? Would be interesting to see how 240fps stacks up against the

180 VFR mode.

On 17.5.2017 at 0:28 AM, elgabogomez said:

I had forgotten about that mod, and I used to own a nex5n... It actually looks a lot like the kinefinity terra (wonder why i liked it so much).

nice, you own a kinefinity terra, who needs a mod then?

Still, a beautiful thing would be a mod for micro to full hdmi in a nice batterygrip kind of thing.

a 6500 mod would be nice: full hdmi and all that bells and whistles of the a6000 mod. I personally would pay for a micro to full hdmi mod in

shape of a battery grip for the G85 and GX85 cameras! Just a solid battery grip with solid full HDMI functionality and connectability to baseplates.

1 hour ago, BrorSvensson said:

my guess is 28mm f2

i second that. zeiss 28mm f2 on s35 emount camera. would say the modern emount version zeiss due to nice oof area in the more distant shots. i hope to be right so

you guys can call me sherlock:)