PannySVHS

1 hour ago, jcs said:

People have argued and debated on the internet since the beginning on USENET (even before on dial-up BBS's). One reason people are in a much more dramatic space is due to the constant negative divisive programming coming daily from mainstream media and the frequent reminder of world war III starting with N. Korea. India is now in a standoff with China. At the same time the US government is under assault from the so-called deep state, run by the bankers looking to hold onto power after the impending global financial reset. Consciously and unconsciously this results in an increase in negative behavior online.

We can keep our heads down and fiddle with our cameras and gear, or we can get out and make films and videos designed to bring unity, show how we can work together, how we can survive when the financial reset happens, how we can survive if WW 3 happens, and even better how we can all stand up and voice our global desire: war is not an acceptable solution to the financial crisis.

If this is one of the last forums where useful information is shared and people get along, then the pattern is an example to apply to other forums, news site comment sections, Facebook and so on. Now more than ever in all our lifetimes is the time to figure out how to work together non-competitively and with kindness, for the survival of everyone.

Out of likes. Fundamental post!

45 minutes ago, meanwhile said:

Also, the story about Leica originated with Reuters, so, yes, a proper news source -

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-blackstone-leica-camera-sale-idUSKBN1AI22V?lr=lr

 

Blackstone are cunts and dicks. To say it with love, sorry, dicks and cunts to have connected you to Blackstone!

31 minutes ago, meanwhile said:

All I can say is stop being stew-pid, u more-on.

People with aspergers know perfectly well that you are referring to them when you say "ass burger" and that you are using the comparison in a derogatory way. Excusing yourself by saying that other people should have more of a sense of humour so that can you insult them is, frankly, pathetic. These are people who are more intelligent and much less ass-like than you are showing yourself to be, but who still have more than share of problems.

 

Hey, he did not mean people with aspergers. That´s for sure. You don´t need to feel upset, believe me. regards, Marty

7 minutes ago, Andrew Reid said:

Apparently this thread is a place to call out a well liked member for his use of non-PC terms from South Park!!

Maybe I should rename EOSHD to No Jokes School.

Sometimes people get upset in an instant. Nothing to gain from that situation. Would be beautiful, if this thread can go back to its topic.

I will avoid posting my teaser for a third time on this forum, ahm, I meant for the forth time. You suckers are just too hard to be baited!

Andrew, your chance to push the like button under my video. It´s a GX85 for the sake of camerateasin and lovin!

9 minutes ago, Andrew Reid said:

"Meanwhile" leave it out. This isn't the place to be language police. It's a place to talk about the subject raised in the top post!

I thought, this thread would be ideal to promote my shortfilm.

I thought this is the place to sparkle enthusiasm, if one shoots with contrast and color at zero! Hot darn, I must be a stinker!  

58 minutes ago, Andrew Reid said:

The audience shifts over time and keeps evolving with the site. NFS have written pretty much nothing but articles designed to reel in clicks so their audience has shifted to the lowest common denominator of people. It's what you get if you have to pay for your visitors or entice them with headlines, rather than building a community around real content and real filmmakers.

1 hour ago, Mattias Burling said:

Agreed. That 16mm is cool for sure get on that adapter!

I hate it, when I´m out of likes for the day!

1 hour ago, meanwhile said:

If you use an insulting term for people who are neurologically divergent as a general insult, then you're not in a great position to criticize. This is no different from using racist or homophobic language.

We are not the ones described above. I agree with your general remark, just not with the occasion. I mean, none of the EOSHD crowd would need to feel described by "Ass burger" anyway. 

Mattias post is more valid than ever. It´s a threat to forum culture how platforms like Cinema5D and Dpreview have been turning into clickbait for clickbaited audiences.

By the way, clickbait, here is mine

GX85, HD 24p, 12mm SLRMagic, natural profile with contrast and color 0, rest-5, unlit, Teaser for my upcoming Vampire short.

Hey Mattias,

this forum has inspired me to shoot. Maybe without this community I wouldnt have been a nerd with an obsession for 8bit Panny Lumix color:)

As long as we are keeping up the manners, this great forum is gonna stay. I bought a Tevidon thanks to you. 16mm 1.8, beauty!

Just too lazy to hassle with purchasing an adapter now.

cheers!

With me it´s: 10 months later- GX85- how am I liking it. Well, that skinny HD 24p 8bit codec gave me something I would call color mojo.

Shot in classic Natural. I bet the GH5 will be a monsterous color monster with its 10bit and flawless HD, not even to speak of the 4K.

So here, finally my first footage with my GX85 which is a mini G85 which is a mini GH5:)

My GX85 teaser footage for my upcoming shortfilm. Shot in natural, 1080 24p. Crushed blacks, blown highlights and posterization, I know

Oh my, it´s just an unlite concept for a short, giving me some ideas how I wanna light it. Shoot is end of August.

1 hour ago, deezid said:

Just received mine with the Sigma 50-100 (the 18-35 didn't arrive yet...) and Tiffen Black Diffusion FX filters.
I'm really impressed.
 

Hallo, haven´t you been shooting with the GH5 for a while and being unsatisfied about its lack of a zero sharpening setting?

By the way, love your GH4 stuff, especially "Americana"!

@meanwhile, have you been a member of this forum before and have you been an exited and avid Canon Ti shooter with

interest in lens modding?

15 hours ago, Fritz Pierre said:

Same for me Jon...I like quiet cameras that you don't "feel" in the footage...just because you can move it, does not mean you should??...but if you do, I like the slow control of a dolly/slider shot....For me the value in IBIS is getting away with a shot without a tripod!

With my GX85 it works nicely, up and down movements stabilized, tilts as well. Pans not working well, only for the classic Pennebaker handheld style for connecting shots and following movements.

As soon as it is about static objects to pan along, jitter is killing the image with my specific GX85 camera.

15 hours ago, jonpais said:

Same here. John Brawley's handheld work with the Olympus was very impressive, but I don't recall if there were any panning shots per se. 

That´s true and it avoids jitter very well.

Your ellusive shooting style of daily life vignettes reflects that well, floating with the flow, letting the viewer forget the camera completely and allowing

him to concetrate on the subjects and events and sights.

I am a little bit sad, that for background panning I cannot really use my camera with IBIS, only following movements in Pennebaker style.

@Fritz Pierre Awesome! Would love to have a few of the AMC magazines! I am shooting on s35 via speedboosted m43, shooting 28mm a lot of times, handheld with my GX85.

With that setup up and shooting style, even with sloooooooow pans I have jitter when shooting with IBIS, tracking and tilting of faster pace are no problems at all.

My FW is up to date. Don´t know if that is a Panny IBIS problem or just the GX implementation of it. Anybody knowing, if panning with GX85 IBIS is an issue?

By the way, my 12mm on native m43 sensor has the same problem, which gives me a good reason to post a shot with it.

SLR Magic 12mm at F2.0 with GX85, graded HD 24p material, shot in classic Natural with contrast 0 and color 0. Yeehaw, lil sis of GH5 showin how it goes! 

Oh fuzzy, you are the master of handheld shooting. I´ve been trying with my GX85 but pans with IBIS look jerky,

whereas with tilts and tracking movements it seems to be that 4K handheld wonder.

Okay, my contribution for the kit: GH5 IBIS with the Tokina 28-70 2.6 and of course a nice 5´´ monitor for critical focussing and a cage.

Check out @jonpais setup with his G85.

One native prime: 12mm SLR Magic, the third version- the T! 1.6 version. I own version one which is nicely sharp at 2.8, gloomy at

1.6 and still soft but better at 2.0. Version three is supposed to be sharp as heck from 2.0 on.

Ergos and 15cm focussing distance are awesome. Didnt see any distortion.

Again, that Tokina lens is awesome:), as I can tell now from first hand,

bokeh at 28mm wide open a little harsh with closer rectangular shapes in the background, focussing distance 0.7m.

Below a screenshot wide open at 28mm with my GX85 in HD 24p mode, graded:

Just now, meanwhile said:

That's useful, thanks. I think I've got around the need for a cage with sugru. Re rubber bands, I'm using a shoulder strap as a stabilizer and I thinking of running another strap or elastic via a fitting in the tripod thread. But now I think I can see how to convert an SV1000 folding rig into a very decent chest support, so I'll try that.

As for being friendly - really, I have been. But when people repeatedly mis-state what you've said, and insist on telling you to do things you've politely declined, being brisk is reasonable. 

Did you find the folding rig on EOSHD? I did in one of the posts a few days ago. Looks cool. Keep us posted, if you have time and a chance to.

I think there was no reason for being brisk. Answers have been given and been reflected and with interesting content. Mission accomplished.

Now next missions ahead: More joyful camera action and asking questions and staying friendly.

I am out of this thread now. As it feels adequate to me for a fresh and new start. cheers

1 hour ago, meanwhile said:

The stuff I asked about is material I can't seem to get from books - how to work with very small consumer cameras like the GX80. Being told to look at a video about writing and blocking instead doesn't really help me with that.

I am not sure if it´s practical to describe manual techniques like handheld focussing. It might be easier to show.

A stronger grip to the GX85 is necessary for ambitious handheld filming and focussing, to be found in a camera cage.

@jonpais is using the same cage as I am. They are pricey. Good thing, I got mine for 40 USD. You might want to look for this one or a similar one.

I attach rubber bands to the cage and the other end to the shoulder belts of a backpack, I put then one hand under the lens´ focus ring,

with the other on the handgrip of the cage.

You state about the usefulness of our answers and at the same time deny it. That is one of a few contradictions I read in your posts.

You can support the people you ask by asking them specific questions. If necessary to you, you would follow up with a specific and friendly reply,

how your question could be answered more to your satisfaction. That way it is easier to fullfill your interested and interesting and friendly request.

Brandon Lis is an avid handheld DSLM shooter. Watching him is fullfilling one of many

learning strategy besides the kind of answer I was giving above.

Only certain shooting styles allow for handheld manual focussing. So it can make sense to watch material of capable handheld shooters in order to see if

it could even be possible to achieve certain styles as a one man band camera operator and focus puller.

Techniques like deep focus, Kurosawas blocking style and Brandon Lis approach would allow for that.

That´s what some answers reflect on, which you have been given in this thread.

1 hour ago, DaveAltizer said:

Can you link the Cinema5D article? 

Hey Dave, was considering reading that article too. Then, I watched the video and must say, the grade is hiding the qualities of the camera well. So

I stopped looing for that article but recognized that Cinema5D is publishing articles on a daily basis now, which I found overwhelming regarding

the number and variety of topics. I used to enjoy to read John Behiris articles, who I haven´t read anything

from for a long time now. The video above is not overwhelmingly showcasing that beautiful Oly camera in my opinion.

9 hours ago, meanwhile said:

No. I've found the answers to the questions I asked useful.

Useful in ways beyond the specific topics of your questions? You took some opportunities to express your dissatisfaction about some aspects of answers you´ve been given.

9 hours ago, meanwhile said:

Also, I appreciate the importance of writing, I just don't especially need to practice it, don't have time to practice it -

You let us know about the persons, who we could learn a great deal about writing from, just one day ago.

9 hours ago, meanwhile said:

I agree Kurosawa is excellent on blocking - although I'd argue that Imaishi is more interesting because he's learned to take Kurosawa's blocking and run faster with it. But blocking isn't really relevant to the question I asked, which is how best to adapt my stills technique with a camera to video - it's a much higher level activity that I'll worry about once I have exposure in the groove, steady pull shots, etc.

I named him for these exellent blocking skills.

I did that as a direct and immediate reply to that advise of yours about your greatest personal idols in the writing field.

I wouldnt argue, that Imaishi is more interesting. Blocking is really relevant to the question you asked.

Blocking directly affects the amount of your stills technique that you can apply to video.

With certain blocking like out of Kurosawas arsenal you will not have to worry about steady pull shots.

Hallo Cantsin,

thank you for your post. It was very enjoyable to read about the technical limitiations of GH2 technology. Still I think that Fuji Look, as I would like to decribe

the color science of the GH2, is something appealing to my eyes. Of course I cannot take into account whats due to post and whats due to the special technicalities

of the GH2. It´s a nice camera with its own beautiful look but also its own limitations, that´s what I am getting out of the positives you have mentioned as well.

My personal view:) would be, a fascinating camera I would like to play around with some day, if time allows. To me it has mojo besides its limitations.

My G6 has that too, which Andrew Reid called the GH2.5 if I remember right, no need to hack and better in low light and dynamic range.

But that little guy definately needs post on the color, but then it can look really kewl, with an exiting Fuji image.:)

@Cinegain Jazzbox, exactly! Thanks a lot!

@Fritz Pierre, But I think I´ve seen some stuff from you I enjoyed as well! Haven´t you posted one, two or three of your pieces?

Repost?:)

@cantsin Musgo is a feature film effort. It has been shot, directed, edited and graded by the one man band wonder Gami. So I think some eventual

technicalities are to be taken into account due to the conditions and huge challenge of this production.

Andrew Reid stated, that a hacked GH2 is not better in lowlight than a more modern G6. Still, checking out what the skilled DSLM

shooters have done with a GH2 and GH4 I recognize something special about GH2 footage:

The proposed tendency of hues towards green to me is rather that of FUJI negative film. Whereas Sonys tendency towards yellogreenish colors

gives the footage a look of digital crayon in photoshop, lacking transition and fitting combination of different hues.

1 hour ago, Fritz Pierre said:

Congrats Mercer!!

http://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/953/gh2-settings-vault-most-popular-settings-in-one-place-quite-old

just came across this old Patch Vault on PV...you're guaranteed to enjoy this process!...just sign up with PV if you're not there already...and start reading??...my favorite is Drewnet T9 by Driftwood...you will also learn about the quirks of the hack...for example, when shooting in the Drewnet 9 9 patch...say a clip of 10 seconds, you have to turn the cam off and back on again to review the clip....another quirk is you always back down from a higher ISO prior to the one you actually want to use for least noise....and expose in the Ansel Adams zone...this camera benefits from a lightmeter (as do all cameras actually)...and lastly...I will have my last GH2 till it dies...would never dream of selling it! ☺️☺️?But mostly enjoy!!

 

Hey Fritz Pierre,

I think you have posted some samples of your work that I really enjoyed. Italian pop music video with a G6? Please help me out:)

12 minutes ago, meanwhile said:

(If anyone does want to work on their writing ability, I recommend Lajos Egri's work - it gave us Annie Hall and Gurrenn Lagann, so you can't deny it has scope...)

If anyone does want to work on their blocking ability, I recommend Akira Kurosawa's work - it gave us Seven Samurai and Stray Dog, so you can't deny it has scope..

It seems with your approach in dealing with this topic and its arguments, you have named your best personal advises yourself by drawing

conclusions from the flaws you see in the arguments of others.

How long have you been following posts of this forum?

Have you been an EOSHD member before? I am asking, because your approach to challenge ideas and

communication seems unique to me.

6 hours ago, Nicholson Ruiz said:

  @PannySVHS thanks man. 

Well deserved. On my larger monitor it looks even more awesome!

I would get a Lumix G6, great HD quality, great efficient and small and gradeable codec. Exellent usability for video shooting.

G6 for 200 bucks and Davinci Resolve for free, to get the color of your choice! Go:)

@meanwhile

The 1.8 Ultrons have a different design and different coating. The Rollei Planars and Zeiss ones share the same design and equivalent coating. @Parker s advise, I would second, CY Zeiss 50mm 1.7.

What is your favorite 50mm when you do photography?

3 minutes ago, mercer said:

Hahaha... Marty you are one of my favorite members on this site... you crack me up. If you're ever in the States, or I'm in Germany, we've gotta collaborate on something. 

Glenn, I am blushing:) You are the master of joyful wording! I am an avid reader of your comments! Big hug from across the mighty ocean, my friend! You are welcome any time at my house!

5 hours ago, meanwhile said:

I might be new to video, but I know this syndrome from stills. No. This is a common mistake when evaluating cameras - comparing examples without allowing for the skill of the typical user. Bitd, the GH2 was a hot camera for elite innovative shooters. The GX85 is mostly bought by civilians. Skill is the main factor in image quality - and supporting hardware like lenses and lights are often the second. I shoot a Sigma Merrill for a lot of stills work and if you looked at their flickrs, you'd think that the Merrill is 10x the camera the GX80 is for stills. And the Merrill is better - at low ISO - but with the same shooter the difference is more like 1.5x. The Merrill attracts attracts fanatics and its such a pain that only the most determined shoot their cameras instead of selling them. You really can't compare bodies by looking at what the average user achieves - not when users are completely unalike. As JJ already said, so I don't see the point in bringing up this argument.

Thank you for pointing out this beautiful research method. I´ve posted about this exiting notion before in other threads that certain cameras have been shot

by certain kind of people. Yashica 35CC is an example for that, a rangfinder photo camera.

I am aware of that just like Jean Claude van Damme is about the splendid spread of his splits. It is great fun to find awesome stuff that way and doing splits meanwhile.

The proof of awesome work done with one camera is not taken away by the lack of proof of work from another camera.

Motion cadence, jittery motion or lack of jitter, ooc color quality, low light behaviour, these are veryveryvery few parameters to evaluate a digicams image.

I have mentioned these above to give a hint towards comparablity other than just and only mentioning of mojo.

That is where "the problem" or another with an image occurs, which is worthy to be brought up, as they are central to image quality.

That´s a problem to some people, an occurance to others and nothing to worry about to others as well.

Good thing for buyers is, nobody has to buy a GH2 for the price of a G85, if one just digs that GH2 image.

Mojo, groove, exitement is not bound to cracks in a record and the likes. I don´t see that as an argument at all, meanwhile you´ve been referring this to Jon Jacobs

but leaving out arguments been made about image quality.

5 hours ago, meanwhile said:

 

Also, it really seems to be the case that with the GX80 you have buy a big SD, shoot in 4K and supersample the image down on your PC if you want HD. Which is still a lot cheaper than buying a GH2 was back when and was always going to be the best way to shoot HD, so really, what's the problem?

4K to HD is an extra step regarding codec conversion and time, 4K H264 grading without downsampling is limited to people with the adequate hardware.

60p is not available in 4K resolution on GX85.