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such as the FS7. But would love to see more Cinealta F3 beauty posted here. We had some great stuff been posted here before. Maybe a F3 challenge would be kewl. I would contribute. It does not have to be a contest, just for being a challenge and motivation to put that Baby Alexa to use. Anyone?:) Love the rendering of this beauty.

Without forums and old school youtubers, the video nerd world would be a dull place.

Maybe checkout the Abelcine profiles. They are based on one of the 709 Cineprofiles. You can still find them on their Website. @IronFilm I have not tried them out but should work well especially for internal recording.

Great read and recap! Thank you! @kye I feel, like my LX15 is almost everything i need in the image quality department but that is for my personal work of course. Or maybe beyond? I got inspired by this great but slippery camera to shoot personal stuff again. The slippery tiny body forces me to shoot, frame, move and conceptionalize in the moment with care and dedication. The odds of ergonomics become a challenge and by practice actually great. Realizing its advantages, there are many of them, this camera has indeed become my favorite personal camera. It equals my love I had for my old time favorite, the legendary G6. Image quality is plenty. That 8bit codec in 4k is the same as in the GX85 and punches far above its weight. Grain, texture, color palette are beautiful. I shoot in vivid for gradeabilty in post. I got this advice from reading Harrison Kraft giving advice on his LX. Ooc colours are okay in this profile, in other profiles really gruesome what made me diguise this camera right after purchase. Thanks gosh I was wrong about it. Another thanks to kye for elaborating on pushing the color in the color profile or at least not berobbing the camera of it, due to the logic that the processing is before codec compression. So, filming in vivid and taming the peak of highlights down to around 768 in post and the image becomes already much better. Working knee and toe, saturation, coolness and warmth and I am already close to what i like. That is in the classy 8bit 4k, no 10bit in sight or needed, cheek in tongue.:) The HD 50p 25mbps codec on the other hand is pretty gruesome. On a side note, the tiny 10mbps codec for 25p 720p on the GX85 is surpisingly strong, which sounds admittedly silly. But that's what I had to find out on accident when I filmed an important family celebration in 720p glory. Of course I was silently screaming "Shyte, I fxxxked up big time this time!" when I wanted to drool over some of my cinema verité awesomness. 😊 But surprise, it held up pretty good regarding achievable hues and color work. Just another example how good even now super affordable or cheap 8bit 709 cameras have become. A Sony A6000 with the 50mbit codec update is an interesting prospect in that regard and would be the ultimate 1080p S35 8bit 420 somewhat pocketable hybrid cinema camera. Lotta categories of greatest cameras. So every fan finds their altars. 😊 Lens on the LX is beautiful. Such a magnificient rendering in all focus lengths. Btw, as many of you know, in 4k the LX15 has only 2/3 inch sensor estate. Still trumping a G6 in lowlight, despite the m43 sensor of the G6, which is four times the area size. I call the LX my personal 16mm cinema pocket cam. I don't mind the missing S16 and be happy with close enough to 16mm powerhouse.:) Here is a repost of Harrison Krafts video. Thanks to this guy I started doing personal work again.

M43 is even more attractive to me now for my own personal artistic film and photo pleasure. Just bought a red GM5 and got a G1 and G3 some weeks ago, both of them for 24 Euro with shipping! I agree though regarding the GH6. Panasonic should have either marketed it differently as a true cinema camera or have given it PdAF. @MrSMW Besides that, it should offer a true zero sharpening setting like the GH5 II does and Braw to SSD. Too bad one has to lump a monitor around for it. At least Braw on the GH6 offers highlight recovery. But so does the P4K. Only found one video so far on youtube about highlight recovery on the GH6. Don't know if the benefits of the Dual Gain sensor are supported.

I recommend read Andrews article, if you are up for some classic and classy Eoshd reading pleasure. 🙂

If only Andy Lee, @webrunner5and our other old friends would resonate with us about that legendary Andy Lee G7 thread. Btw, getting a serious hang with the LX15 colour now. It's up there with the GX85 for me now. Maybe not in latitude and dynamic range but in receptional regard. The lens is a true gem. Love its characteristics. Trick and key element is to take the digital edge out of the footage with some digital diffusion. Davinci is really getting the best out of these cameras. Would love a LX20 with HLG and the astonshing 10bit h264 interframe codec from the Lumix G9, GH5/6 and S series cameras. Best would be with hard stops for MF like the Oly 12mm F2 or 18mm F1.8. So for me a LX20 instead of a A6700. 😅

You, Ironfilm and me, three time travellers stuck in the timeless Lumix G7 thread by Andy Lee, reading his comparison with an Arri Alexa, then buying all G7 cameras we can get for our money, reading it again and buying even more G7 cameras and reading again... Time management and travelling, and cyclic GAS impulses, what a weird world of photo-video-sound nerds we are living in 🙂 @kye

I know, you are a time traveler for sure, I meant you had been travelling to the past, buying a G7 for 999 USD. 🙂

Thanks for posting the video. From what I get, the E1 has less noise reduction so could be similar raw image quality as the FX6 in lowlight. The poster on youtube prefers an image with mush and less noise though. Different tastes:) But absence of the strong NR like in FX3 and A7S3 would be a huge argument for fans of the "organic" image. So that makes the E1 an interesting camera indeed. FX3 sensor readout speed, FF 60p, Lumix S1H image quality, A6000 size body, AF. Shutdown due to heat is unfortunate.

You are talking about a G7? No timecode though on that one. 😂

That´s exactely what I meant what all your videos show: I imagine the reality of being in the park is more exiting than the realness of CST of your tested cameras. All your tested conversions to Rec709 lack that exiting reality of a park that you were capturing.

One poster- you must be talking about me. @markr041 I meant "thin and not overly attractive". Typo in the last word. 😂 With thin colour I mean a look like a crayon sketch on paper, as opposed to thick as oil paint on a canvas, rich, subtle, involving, like in a Rembrandt painting. But that is just due to the neutral palette left as is after the CST, or Lut, if that is preferred. I have seen some awesome colour coming from the 12 bit NRaw on youtube. It´s just a matter of colour grading and what one is aiming for with powerhouse cameras such as a modern Panasonycanikon. Would love to test an Z8 or Z9s NRaw. 12+ stops of dynamic range are plenty to work with for me. Would love to hear from deezid about his findings with the Lumix S5 II and Braw. @deezid

Colours look thin and not overly active to me in the videos above, like ooc colours on my compact camera. But with grading that can be changed of course. Have seen some beautiful colours coming from the N9 on youtube.

CineD and Imatest give dynamic range numbers. Btw, all Sonys are outnumbered by Panasonic full frame cameras. Alexa 35, Alexa Classic, Alexa LF, Red Raptor, Canon C500II, C70, C300II are the best dynamic range cams. S1H about the same as the latter. Alexas and Red Raptor in their own league. The Alexas are also latitude winners, the 35 a monster. GH6 in Dual Gain performing in latitude as good as a full frame Sony A7 IV. I love how my tiny 8bit LX15 responds in colour grading. In 4K though! It has a beautiful colour palette for colour grading but ooc it is nothing to write home about. But in Davinci some of the most fun and satisfying grading experiences and colours. Dynamic range is good enough for a 709 profile and for my taste. I like the results I am getting better than most stuff on youtube coming from 10bit Log machines and dynamic range champions. Dynamic range is one of the many, many parameters of an image. A7s2 had good dynamic range but aweful codec and colours. Log of Canon hybrids seems faulted as shadow area is cut off and does not reach full black. Still, I like the image I am seeing on youtube coming from them much better than most of the Sony stuff.

Brandon has done much cooler stuff with cheaper cameras. Nicer colours too than this. 🙂

Would rather take a GH6 instead, same dynamic range, worse AF, anything else better for my use, such as awesome codecs, framerates, colour integrety in low light, thick colours, full HDMI, innovative screen, framerates.. But first gotta sell my old S1. Though I could keep that one and still have a better cam than this Sony newbie, other than AF for video. A 100Mbit codec for UHD on a 2023 camera is so 2014 GH4. This Sony is not an attractive looking camera for my taste, buttons, surface, lines, despite it featuring a rangefinder design. But it will be the best of the APSC A line of Sony cameras, maybe except the classic A6000, with its nice 709 colours and creamy HD image and a convincing 50mbit HD codec for around 200 to 300 USD on the used market.:)

Yes, it´s of the rather costly side though, 250 USD. Was hoping for something around 80 or 90 EUR. Well, if I want to mount my Konica 35-100 on my Baby Alexa Cinealta dream camera, well then I guess it will be the route to go. @IronFilm

Perfect way to get back to some Cinealta F3 appreciation! 😂 @IronFilm So what are you going to be heading towards to with your newly approached field of computer science? Ex1 and 3 are Gh2 level regarding lowlight, bettering the Panny Hpx 250 by a clearly visible margin, going by the tests I have seen on the web. Back to F3, FZ to M-mount to other mounts is an interesting option if desired mount is not available for direct adaption to FZ. Anyone shot anything lately with this beauty or wants to posts some of their footage? 🙂

Really appreciate the reactivation of interest for raw video with a smartphone. Thanks for restarting the already nice discussion in this thread. @Brian Williams Some of my favorite colour palettes presented on youtube have been shot with Eos M Raw btw, rivaling the best available light shots presented on this forum, bettering most. Raw images from 1/1.7-1.8 sensors in compact cameras have displayed some tasty colours, that from 10 year old cameras such as an Oly XZ2 or XZ10. The latter even with a smaller 1/2.3 sensor. So I imagine a modern sensor in these and larger sizes will put out a nice RAW image for video to work with. I have had success with processing Jpegs from old 6MPix cameras. So, looking forward to see this thing gaining momentum. Would love some manual focus fun and ND options and nice handling as well. 😊 @billdoubleu

Awesome video! Exellent pro work and artistically beautiful direction and cinematography! Didn´t know you are such a heck of a filmmaker despite your love for CCD colors.:) C100 shining. Artistry shining. Loved it! Keep em coming, these gems! @QuickHitRecord What camera is your favorite one nowadays? Well, cameras, it is not fair to decide on just one, as there are many awesome cams out there, stored in our cabinets. 🙂 For the money you mention I would get a used GH5 with Vlog installed or just use the free HLG profile instead and save the money for other kewl stuff. Or you could get a similarily compact Lumix S5, if you don´t need an external monitor and the extra cost compared to a GH5, which would give you exellent dynamic range and lowlight quality. Or a S1 with better EVF and monitor than the S5, suitable for easier manual focussing @tomastancredi

I once accidently left the stabilizer of my Canon zoom on and it messed up my dolly shot. Many, many, many years ago.:) So yes, turn that thing off! I like to remember that it was an accident though when I left mine on.😂

Cool! What are you studying? @IronFilm Panny HPX250 would be something, with 10bit 422 up to 60p, juicy codec, perfectly resolved 1080p. No need to post shaky Ex1 test videos from 1982 and especially not that maaaaany 😂 It's flooding the really awesome video I posted before. Hopefully Nostalgia Nexus will get more followers. Btw, I posted Xaviers F3 videos before and some from the Swedish connoisseur Josef, also with a bit of writeup. His FS7 video like his others are all quality stuff. But since you are my F3 hero, I will stop bragging. 🙂 An extra thread for vintage beasts would be a blast. Another interesting prospect for CCD lovers is the 8bit 422 HD 100mbit machine HPX171. Effective Resolution is 720p level though, despite the 1080p label. But 3ccd with 720p, 422 and 100 Mbit it is kinda Andromeda hacked DVX100 level. Both, the 250 and the 170 writing to P2HD cards. Back to F3. Who would be up do a Cinealta F3 challenge? It has Fujifilm magic in it.:) Here, see youself again 🙂

I started out fancy and the I broke it down to three nodes. In some shots I did over the last couple days, some extra fancyness enhanced the quality in others not so much. The grade for the video above was a treatment of the very brittle HD 50p codec of this camera. Also, the blacks much more compressed than on the quality bunch of the MFT cameras. Could be due to having filmed with Vivid profile, though I had nice results with that on my GX85, which is still painting comparably better colours by a margin imho. Though the DP I posted before, got some awesome colours out of the LX, still with some flat shadows. By that I don´t mean pushed down but flat out missing too much to start with. First I followed the DPs route and transformed to Arric spac and log and worked in front and behind the conversion with curve and CST back to Rec 709. For some footage that was a nice extra step for other footage not so much for me. I then got a tree of three nodes with gentle curves and fared pretty well. My video above is to brittle for my taste but I gave up on choosing between different variantes and I had to decide for one of the grades. Color metrics has been akward. Light was super challenging, Vivid profile maybe the wrong choice and 25Mbit 50p with Canon 7Ds line skipping not a good base for an easy grade. Anyway, I can send you the dpx if you like. @kye Cheers and thanks for the kind words. 🙂 Btw, stab works in 4K, but panning is a sucker, jerky and unpredictable in that. But in a pinch for little sketches it is okay. Works okay for static shots, even in tele. No comparison at all to a GX85 or other Panasonic cameras. Still a fun and very worthwhile camera! I will dig more into this little gem.

Beautiful video. Title is giving the price of the F35:) The description got right though. Love again, how camera motion looks with several focal lengths. Great video, beautiful image quality. This video is a labour of love and the DPs voice sounds like from the Media Devision gentleman. If that is not a Sunday evening treat, I don´t know what else would be. Tell me in the comments section. Nooot:) Btw, Fujifilm imprint on the board of the camera. How cool is that! And no chroma smearing this time! 😉 I feel you, cause I feel the same. 🙂