Marcio Kabke Pinheiro

Looks like the same movie modes (and time limits) of the XT3, with the inclusion of 240fps in full HD, with 3 min time limit.

34 minutes ago, Patrick B. said:

Awesome.  Yeah, I’ve started shopping around for the best Android phone for video.  I can’t find many video examples testing this particular feature, but the couple I found were very convincing.  I’m seriously wondering if I might be able to transition to phones.

Now I’m just wondering which versions of Android support this API version and feature.  The one tricky thing with Androids is they all run their own special OS flavors.  So I think it would true that some phones can’t be upgraded?

The problem is not really the Android version, but how much of the Camera 2 API the manufacturer exposes.

Just bought a Galaxy S9, and 4k60 is not available because of Samsung's implementation of the API. They found a way to circunvent it in the Exynos versions, but in the Snapdragon ones (like mine) is not possible. Every manufacturer have some kind of issues in its implementation.

Better look at the Filmic's Pro blog, and in forums about Filmic Pro to know how it works with each phone. Or, if you live in a country that have return policies, get the phone and try.

The virus will affect all camera companies. Even when produced in Japan, there are parts made in China, which will be in short supply soon (LG cellphone factories here in Brazil were already shutdown due to lack of parts).

But this discussion made me curious about a thing: how much DRAM each camera has inside? Ok, the faster one have more due to buffering, but I'm curious about the average quantity.

But at the same time, in the Specs of the page, says:

"Movie quality is set to YCbCr 4:2:2 (8 bit), frame rate follows movie setting (24p, 30p and 60p settings are not recommended.), and sound will be recorded."

Marketing / specs guys in Olympus are probably drunk or on drugs. No trusty info.

2 hours ago, anonim said:

It seems rather 4:2:2 8 bit as earlier.

https://mirrorlesscomparison.com/preview/olympus-omd-em1-ii-vs-em1-iii/

What's nice addition is Auto ISO while recording video in Manual mode.

Matiheu probably did not know about the fact. The GetOlympus page confirms that HDMI output is 4:2:2 10-bit.

https://www.getolympus.com/us/en/digitalcameras/omd/om-d-e-m1-mark-iii.html

More infos from Fuji Rumors:

 

-No Pixel-shift yet.

-USB PD protocol implemented, as it charged very quickly with a PD 30W USB-C charger. Not so fast with a normal QC charger.

-IBIS can go up to 6.5 stops with some of the prime lenses.

-Priced at 1700 USD.

-Multiple Boost modes including normal / economy / boost AF / boost FPS / boost Res etc.

Accodring to Fuji Rumors, the price will be $1700, $200 more than the XT-3.

On 2/17/2020 at 8:25 AM, JurijTurnsek said:

It shoots 4K at 24p exclusively, so that means it is meant for serious cinematographers only. No home videos, blockbusters only. No wonder no has the cohones to step up to it.

Wrong. The poor Canon spent all it's budget in the 24p license, no money left to license 30p.

The most troublesome info is the lack of a new "real" Truepic processor. Sure, it is a new one, but from all the info about it, it is just the dual Truepic VIII setup of the E-M1X encapsulated in one chip - probably even with the same transistor size. This explains the lack of real new features - the improved IBIS is a result of the new gyros, and the Starry AF was probably already implemented and was on hold to have something new for the MK III.

Looks like the development is halted on Olympus. 😕 Which is very sad - with it amazing IBIS and very good colors, with a good AF and more advanced video modes they could get a good piece of market share.

And (as Panasonic) they are hostages of Sony's desire to make a new sensor for MFT.

Still beyond me why Fuji dropped their best LCD hinge implementation - the XT100. That one and the S1R are the best LCD hinges, pleased everyone - flip and flippy at the same time.

Really hope that all the R5 expectations be fulfilled.

But it is interesting that all after these years of crippling, everyone is believing in a magic cam from Canon with amazing specs, and even already stating that will sell all their gear to come back to Canon...

I think that a more cautious approach would be wise, and hold the excitement until the specs are confirmed.

In good hands, the camera can deliver. Like our @John Brawley .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpD4SFNvWZU&t=0s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzhMs4uXXJM&t=0s

The EM5 MK III is now US$999, a much more reasonable price.

Anyone here got one? How is the video AF, on par/below/above the E-M1 MK III? Was suprised that the DPReview said that the AF is noticeably worse than the E-M1 MK II.

@DaveAltizer, have you tested it?

20 hours ago, Carz said:

Sounds like this is going to have a fully articulating screen. Fuji is going for the jugular. 

Not clear if it will be a full tilt (GH5 like) or a flip/tilt (like the S1H). Hope the S1H design, or at least the XT100 design (and that was the cause that they abandoned it in the XT200).

You please still shooters (which prefer tilt only LCDs) and movie shooters.

18 hours ago, Alex Uzan said:

Will that be necessary for the EOR5 ? 😂

Maybe for the A7SIII, looking back in the (hot) Sony past.

On 1/22/2020 at 6:02 AM, Julien416 said:

That theory, if a bit on the conspiracy side, makes perfect sense though.

Seeing how Panasonic went all-in with s1h, at a premium price that is, I don't get why they wouldn't have gone the PDAF route if they had the choice. ("nah mate, PDAF is over rated, we don't want this sensor"). 

They may be stubborn but they aren't stupid either. There is not one person on this planet who thinks contrast autofocus is better than PDAF. I am pretty sure Panasonic thinks the same. If they had released any of their last camera with PDAF  - Gh5(s), S1(h), G9 - imagine what their market share would be. 

Remember that Panasonic was stubborn before, saying for years that IBIS was not necessary because OIS stabilization was superior (something that Canon said a lot too). Fuji even said that will never implement IBIS in their cameras. And Sony and Olympus never revamped their menu systems.

Don't know much about corporate culture in Japan, but looks like that is a lot of pride involved, some resistance to accept an error...

But in the PDAF Panasonic's case, yeah, I think that is some agreement / licensing blocking involved. 

I think that the most important point is: this time Canon provisioned the budget for the 24p modes licenses? (insert irony here) 

1 hour ago, IronFilm said:

If the GH6 is the same leap forward as the GH5 itself was, then the GH6 will stay relevant for a very long time!
 

Yes, they're very niche, but they've also been amazing in bringing out products perfectly suited for many us filmmakers. Shouldn't be discounted, and instead regarded as a big positive about the system! 

Yes, as I said, I think that MFT will be relevant in movie circles for some time. But in the stills arena, where the volume exists, could happen a phase out - and MFT became kind of a PL mount, only used in niches.

15 hours ago, IronFilm said:

It came so so so close.... just needs IBIS!

Wait for the X-T300 I guess??

Have my doubts that Fuji will trickle down IBIS to a XT-40 / XT-300 very soon. Or remove the 10/15 min cap.

Since their lower bodies have VERY good specs, they are probably afraid of canibalization.

But if I was a vlogger, would use a XT-200 in a Crane M2 in a heartbeat.

1 hour ago, IronFilm said:

The film was self financed, so yup, a very low budget. 

And it seemed the fast shutter benefited them, because of the high paced fast action / slow motion. 

Or they leave it just for shooting with in the studio, such as Marques Brownlee

Or they have a small crew to shoot with it alongside them, such as Linus Tech Tips or Devin Graham

In one of the Linus videos, his video guy says that their RED transition was motivated by their need of a very fast workflow: almost daily episodes, a lot of episodes being shotted simultaneously - more leeway to make fast exposure adjustments on post, more cropping options to punch-in in post instead of running multiple cameras.

I think that having the best tech, in a tech channel (it applies to Brownlee too) gives than a good comparison point to cheaper tech, and gives a useful perspective of cost/benefit for value comparisons. And, of course, fulfilling gear lust.

14 hours ago, IronFilm said:

Nobody knows the future for sure, why should it is be less risky to be invested into X Mount than MFT?

I'd say MFT is still the safer bet, as X Mount exists at the whim of only one manufacturer. While MFT is supported by a diverse range of many companies. 

Kind of. The real supporters of the m4/3 format are Panasonic and Olympus - all the others (Blackmagic included) are very niche.

From Panasonic, I clearly see a GH6 on the horizon, but not much more - there are rumors of a GX10, but as a minor update. Olympus just repackaged the E-M1 II in a smaller body to make the E-M5 MK III, and rumors says that the same sensor will be used for the E-M1 MK III.

M4/3 evolution is dependant nowadays on Sony to evolve on sensors. Olympus is struggling financially to evolve their platforms (if the E-M1 MK III still use the same chipset, will be a VERY  bad sign). Panasonic could repurpose the tech developed for the L cameras to m4/3, but don't see much intention to do it - everyone (except Fuji) is pushing full frame, better margins on bodies and (especially) lenses.

As I said, I love my m4/3 gear, it fullfills almost all that I need (except low light - my dream camera is a proper GX body with IBIS and the GH5s internals). And I think that m4/3 will be a viable format for video for a good amount of time - but maybe not for stills, where the sales volumes are. And don't want to end with a bunch of bodies and lenses with very deprecated values in a phase out, like was with 4/3 users.

And Fuji is doing a lot of things right. Have bodies and lenses with the same or a little more size and weight than m4/3 (for people, like me, that likes compact gear). In two generations jumped from some of the worst video tech for some of the best. Is (maybe) the only manufacturer that their bodies frequently surpasses expectations in specifications. Their prices are competitive. IBIS was the last barrier for me (I use a lot of vintage lenses), maybe they will be my future.

6 hours ago, frontfocus said:

X-Trans needs more CPU power so there is more heat. X-T200 is bayer and thus runs cooler

Maybe. But a GX85 / GX9 have kind of the same size, and runs for 30 mins without problem. Ok, they have less pixels to downsample, but I think that it is still feasible. I think that is market segmentation, really - or worse chipset tech.

2 minutes ago, thebrothersthre3 said:

The current cap is 30 minutes in 4k. Though I wish it was an hour.

Only in the XT-3 / XH1, no?

In the smaller bodies (XT-30 / XT-200) the cap is 10 minutes in 4k in the XT-30 and 15 mins in the XT-200 (just now noticed that the smaller one have 5 mins more!).

Fuji probably would put a cap in a X-E4 too.

On 1/20/2020 at 8:13 PM, IronFilm said:

Yeah, Fujifilm lacks a great vlogging camera. Just give us both a screen that you can see *and* a mic input at the same time. (bonus of course if it has IBIS and great AF! Dumb things like only 8bit and 15 minute limits won't even matter if it has everything else I just mentioned)

The XT200 fits this bill, I guess.

Just waiting to Fuji put IBIS in their smaller cameras to switch from m4/3 to Fuji - like a lot my m4/3 gear, but I'm afraid for their future, and probably want to sell it before the price drop when it (maybe) is discontinued. 

As a complete amateur, my dream Fuji camera is a X-E4 with IBIS, XT-3 internals and good video AF. Even accept a 30 min 4k cap (sorry, 15 mins is too short). I prefer rangefinder bodies, the draw MUCH less attention, you could take stills/video in the streets / concerts and nobody cares.