Marcio Kabke Pinheiro

I guess that they take the wishes of Canon users saying "we want a camera that could be considered The King Of The Crop in 4k" too seriously.

Some specs leaked by Nokishita (which in general are correct):

 

24.1MP CMOS sensor with Dual Pixel AF and improved DR

DIGIC 8 used for first time!

4K 30fps mode at 100Mbit

2.36mdot OLED EVF

3" 1.04Mdot LCD touch screen

10fps and up to 7.4fps with AF

100-25600 ISO (extended ISO: 51200)

Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, NFC

CR3 RAW format and new C-RAW compact format (40% compression format)

February 27 preorder start

3 hours ago, jonpais said:

Lee Jae Yong, the billionaire Samsung heir, was released from jail a couple weeks ago after a Seoul court suspended his five-year sentence for bribery. Under South Korean law, sentences of greater than three years cannot be suspended. Lee has seen his personal wealth increase by 45% since his incarceration a year ago.

I've heard a rumour that all the court's members were NX1 users, and that Lee promised to launch the NX2 if he is released. 

My involvement with movie / stills (even as an amateur till this day) is (I think) kind of interesting.

I love music (more in the past - free time is shorter to enjoy it each day that passes), love to go to concerts, but...my memory is kind of weak, a lot of moments in concerts end being forgotten. Hence I had the idea to film parts of the concerts as a way to remember. It was a time that smartphones are the Samsung's with Tizen, Android did not even exist yet, and I bought a Kodak Zi8 - a little film camera, fixed lens, with 1080p (a rarity in those days). And started to record some shows.

Soon I upgraded to a Sony HX9, much better quality and sound. And with it, tried to start to take some stills - and liked it. Than start to search for a camera that could make good movies and stills, Google mentioned a camera called GH2, I found a site called EOSHD, which owner made a video in Tokyo with that camera that blowns me away...and the rest is history.

Video brought me the stills, and I love both. It gives you that kind of satisfaction from a thing that was created, and done, only by you, a sense of accomplishment. As I guy that likes art, it is the closest that I can get to it.

But I think that my stills side in much better.  All photos with m4/3 cameras, "which sucks for concerts, you need a full frame one". The second one was published in the Franz Ferdinand's Instagram account, good moment.

2 hours ago, PannySVHS said:

It would have been awesome for my needs if it had the GX8 body and high bitrate plus resolution for HD up to 60p. I think this camera will not sell well. I find this camera weird since there is a GX85, which is only 4MP short of 20MP.

I think you might not find a difference in ergos compared to the GX85 which did not fare so well to your needs. Though if EVF is great then it could be interesting.

EVF is the same of the GX85. Tearing does not bother me, the size yes (for photos).

I think it will be a good seller. For photos, it is a very good upgrade from GX85, in MP count and control wise. Much better than the E-M10 MK III.
For videos, for starters / enthusiasts, good value too, as is the GX85. But for video guys that already have the GX85, maybe not so much, specially if you could not use the @BTM_Pix hack (and probably Panasonic closed that option).

Panasonic have all in hand to make a very good LX200 (I have the LX100) - improve a little the lens (tad sharper), same range / aperture, use the 20mp sensor to get a 15/16mp photo image, improve a little in controls (anybody ever used the iA  and filter buttons?) and it will sell lot hotcakes. Even with the GX9 specs.

24 minutes ago, Don Kotlos said:

Unfortunately @Márcio Kabke Pinheiro you were right and I doubt we will ever see an updated GX8. 

Much worse EVF, no mic input, no HLG, scaled back IBIS...

Naming it GX9 was a mistake - only if they will never do another proper GXx camera.

But as a GX85 upgrade, it is a interesting one.

7 minutes ago, no_connection said:

No 25p or 50p is a dealbreaker. Why would they leave those out, makes 0 sense.

*edit* and no mic input

Probably the EU version will have 25p and 50p.

Photographyblog's preview said that the camera is a GX85 upgrade, not a GX8 replacement - than it makes much more sense.

Prices in USA:

$997 in kit with the 12-60 3.5-5.6 (lot the Leica one)
$699 body only

There will be kit with the 20mm 1.7 and the 12-32 pancake.

And now it have and optional external grip, which solves one of my biggest gripes (pun intended) with the GX85.

2 minutes ago, BTM_Pix said:

No Cinelike D on it.

I'll have to pop into a shop with this and see whether it can be persuaded then eh?

 

Look who's back!   (or you appeared in another topic?)

Interested in this little box...

In none of the photos is possible to see the model number. Hope that this is the GX90 (and we can remember that the GX85 is called GX7 MKII in Japan).

Because it is more a GX85 upgrade than a GX8 upgrade. Body based in GX85, notably - grip too small for heavier lenses, not weather sealed for sure, probabaly the same smallish abttery. The EVF looks like the same from GX7 / GX85, which is very small in these days (I have the GX85). Less custom buttons than the GX8 too. It is not the "top photo rangefinder style" as the previous GXs.

If it is indeed the GX90, than it is much more interesting, specially if it is the same price range. Back are the tilt EVF (like it a lot), the focus mode switch, the AE/AF Lock button looks like more usable now, and the EV dial allow to use the back dial for other purposes.

https://www.43rumors.com/ft5-first-image-new-panasonic-gx9-leaked/

If this is the GX85 sucessor, very good upgrade (albeit look like it keeps the tiny EVF). But if it its the REAL GX8 sucessor, very disappointing.

Hope that it is one of the crazy Panasonic namig schemes in place.

For sure that NX2 will come out in the same day of Breccia's Canon GX9 MKIII.

No way that this camera is real. Even not considering the unreal specs, creating a camera to promote the Galaxy S9 would be insane - most of the smartphone users don't give a damn for traditional cameras.

If Samsung wished that, making a ultimate vlogger camera would make much more sense - a 1" sensor with Dual Pixel, small form factor, foldable LCD, mic input, 4k120p, good fixed lens. Throw a new and easy way to connect the camera with with S9 (or even use the Exynos modem in the camera) to share fotos, and you have a winner with a much lesser cost and much more target to the intended audience.

16 hours ago, Andrew Reid said:

Japan is a weird market though.

Weirder than the fish in David Attenborough's water programme.

The GF7 is 4th by volume. Says a lot.

In the rest of the world, I don't see quite as much love for Canon's tiny, bitsy, toy mirrorless cams.

In my last trip to Europe, was shocked to see A LOT of EOS M5 in hands of tourists. Especially in London.

All these references to the 2020 Olympics - do you all really think that a Gh6 would be the camera of choice for the broadcasters?

"Breccia" was the name of the designer that made this (obvious) fake camera.

https://***URL removed***/news/9037503969/this-vlogger-is-the-guy-behind-last-week-s-canon-g7-x-mark-iii-hoax

On 21/01/2018 at 10:24 PM, Andrew Reid said:

I think it's more that Panasonic is heavily invested in DFD and CDAF technology... They have the best contrast detect AF around.

But video needs phase-detect AF to work optimally, preferably Dual Pixel AF.

It takes a long time to change directions in such a big area of development as autofocus, and if there's a political dimension to it... It would be that Panasonic don't want to dump years of R&D down the drain, maybe... Like I say, their DFD technology and contrast detect AF is superb in right conditions for stills.

Or sometimes is being just stubborn because of "pride" - Panasonic stated for years that lens OIS was "good enough" before moved to an IBIS solution (and executed it brilliantly - Dual IS is now a very strong reason to prefer Panasonic lenses instead of Olympus).
 

They could keep DFD for S-AF and switch to PDAF for C-AF and tracking - best of both worlds.

5 hours ago, OliKMIA said:

Some camera are also only availablre with Japanese menu...

Yeap - as far as I know, specially Panasonic is known for supplying cameras with only japanese language available in Japan. Better check the camera's menu before buying.

@BTM_Pix discovery of how to unlock Cinelike-D on the GX85 was one of the most valuable contribuitions ever on this forum.

As a complete amateur (each day even more, filming less... :/), for me the G9 is very interesting too. But still waiting for the G85, GX8 and Olympus E-M5 II sucessors. And keeping an eye in he Fujis and the APS-C Sony line.

About the option to disable sharpening - remember that this camera have an anti-alising filter, hence the sharpness is already a little refrained.

Just want to say that this topic is marked as HOT in the front page.

I guess that it corroborates future Panasonic's claims about heat dissipation with this camera.   No IBIS for this topic.

1 hour ago, Don Kotlos said:

I am disappointed for the lack of IBIS as well but I use a Starvis sensor on a machine vision camera at work and it gets really hot. We have to use a lot of heat sinks to get the noise low enough so I understand the need with the GH5s to be mounted on a huge heat sink instead of floating around. 

THAT was valueable info. Thanks, Don.

About the IBIS:

- I even already mocked about the heat issue, and it really could exist. But (as least in my mind, that could easlily be wrong) to scan a 20mp sensor in 60fps probably would generate more heat in the sensor than a 10mp one? Not ot even mention the processing to downsample a 20mp sensor to 4k in real time - in theory, the 10mp sensor probably will have a 1:1 scan, hence less work in the chipset for the encoding.

- The elephant in the room is that the A7SIII will probably have IBIS, and 4kp60 too. For a not too much bigger price - and if Sony puts the A9 autofocus system and tweaks their color science (the A7RIII clips already looks better in color terms, I think), a lot of people could wait.

Probably there will be a lot fo PR talking for the reasons to strip IBIS - heat, etc.

Reality: to prevent the (not unreasonable) rage from the GH5 owners.

They forgot to copy the Sony segmentation to the last step - all guns forward always, no matter what was lauched before.

Just for info, in my case used avidemux with GX85 4K MP4 files, worked flawlessly. But your mileage may vary with other formats.