Marcio Kabke Pinheiro

Our @Mattias Burling already gave the firmware a spin.

That Eterna colors are really beautiful.
 

10 hours ago, BTM_Pix said:

If Panasonic ever did make that LX100 lens they would probably want about £800-900 for it so the best way to look at the LX100 is its that lens for half the price and with a camera thrown in for free. Absolute bargain !

 

Always thought this way about my LX100 - a lens with a free camera.

Have to use it back to tinker a little bit with photo quality - always have the impression that the lens is a bit soft.

Unfortunately the video quality is now lagging behing the GX85 - G9 - G85 - GH5; the noise levels are from the GH4 generation. If it could be updated to the GX85 level, would be amazing.

19 hours ago, sanveer said:

After doing a little bit of research, I discovered that while there is a site comparing most Amatuer and Prosumer Cameras (https://camerasize.com/compare/), there appear to be none that compare Camera Lens sizes (except one that matches M43 cameras with lenses for relative look and size estimations http://four-thirds.org/en/special/matching.html). There is a strange presumption that lenses must remain small at the cost of faster glass or great options, and this applies to Panasonic too. Olympus has been shamelessly making some superb glass and some of it is pretty small too, especially for the quality and brightness that it offers. 

If Samsung could make f2-2.8 (16-50mm) Zooms, there is no reason Panasonic should not aim for Zooms that start brighter than f2.8 (Panny Leica f2.8-4 12-60mm). I saw the Zuiko f2 Zooms and they are absolutely enormous. Panasonic should aim for a combination of bright and decent range, even if it means a little large lens (not as enormous as the Zuiko f2 zooms). I don't like variable zooms, cause they suddenly feel weird if you don't close the aperture to begin with, and then zoom in.

A 12-100 versions of the stellar Olympus f4 zoom, but with an f2.8 lens would be perfect. It could be large. This single lens could outsell everything but the M43 system if it has good OIS and isn't priced above $1499.

You could compare camera+lenses sizes (some of them) in the same Camerasize site. 

- Go to  https://camerasize.com/compact/

- In the menu bar at the right of the combo box which you choose the cameras, click on the last icon (camera+lens)

- Choose a camera and click the "+" button

- The camera body will appear in top view, and over it there is a link "click to add a lens"

- Choose the lens that you want

- Add a 2nd camera body and repeat the process.

You can copy the generated URL that your browser will show in the URL bar when you have the comparison you desired and share it, like this:

https://camerasize.com/compact/#698.613,698.366,ha,t
 

"The camera achieves HD Tier 1 because of the sensor size, while smaller than the preferred 1” size, is greater than the minimum-acceptable 2⁄3” size. The wording of R.118 is not completely consistent on this because testing is required whatever the sensor size, but the camera passes the tests anyway."

Huh?

Congrats for working with The Damned, too. Great band.

Dialogue in Panasonic headquarters meeting:
(Manager) Well, Cinelike-D and Cinelike-V should stay available only for our bigger body cameras...
(Engineer) Ahn...there is a problem...
(Manager) What?
(Engineer) A guy in a site was messing with our wifi transmission protocol and discovered a way to enable it in our smaller cameras.
(Manager) Oh, fuck. Where?
(Engineer) Looks like a Canon site by their name, EOSHD. @BTM_Pix is the handle of the guy.
(Manager) Can't we disable it with a firmware update?
(Engineer) We can...but since we usually only release updates to fix errors in our smaller cameras, and not to improve them like that Fujifilm assholes, probably will not be a good idea.
(Manager) How did that happened?
(Engineer) An internship guy was assigned to handle the wifi protocols and...
(Manager) Amazing job, geniuses. Now we have to enable it to not look selfish...

The engineer was moved to Panasonic's washer division.

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New firmware v1.1

[Cinelike D] and [Cinelike V] have been added to [Photo Style].

[Flash Mode] can now be set to [Forced Flash Off] for the built-in flash.

http://av.jpn.support.panasonic.com/support/global/cs/dsc/download/fts/dl/gx9.html

5 hours ago, frontfocus said:

The 5D classic already has some followers, same goes for CCD sensors. 

For Nikon cameras those not using Sony designed sensors might be considered something special, but one of the most interesting camera with Nikon F mount, was the Fuji S2 pro (and S5 pro), incredible dynamic range for that time, very nice highlight roll off due to the dual pixel sizes and colors, especially skin tones, that many people still consider to be some of the best ever.

Didn‘t have many buyers back when it was new, but those who ever used it fell in love with it

Leicas will always be classics.

 

For video? No idea, that seems to be a much harder task

In fact just bought a very battered (but working) S5Pro just to see if that CCD colors justify the hype.

@Mattias Burling could contribute somewhat in this topic (if he comes back).

2 hours ago, Federico Res said:

I have a Mega account  Ok I will upload the footage this evening as I come back from work

New account, 3 posts...hope that it will not be a 4k movie of Rick Astley (or some DNG from a NX1 Raw).

For size comparisons, it is in Camerasize already.

http://camerasize.com/compare/#782,727

12 minutes ago, IronFilm said:

Been reading around comments elsewhere. And found it strange how some people are saying USB-C drives are "expensive". Yes, please tell me more about how a 128gig drive which costs less than forty bucks is "almost as expensive as a CFast card"!

https://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Ultra-128GB-Type-C-SDDDC2-128G-G46/dp/B01EZ0X55C/

And heck, if you're just doing a basic shot on a tripod that is running for ages (say a locked off shot at an event) you could get a FOUR TERABYTE harddrive for less than US$170:

https://www.amazon.com/G-Technology-G-DRIVE-USB-C-External-0G05666/dp/B06ZY3N7QC/

This is indeed a major feature by BMD!

I remember when I first purchased my original BMPCC I had to spend a small fortune on fast enough and big enough SD cards. Ditto SSD prices when the BMCC first launched, or CFast prices when the big URSA first launched. 

Very good option, but in my short experience with USB-C cables (only have a tablet with it - my older computers are still running fine), it disconnects much more easily than HDMI. A locking solution will be needed, I guess.

13 minutes ago, Andrew Reid said:

If Panasonic did a RAW and ProRes firmware update for the GH5S.... Wouldn't that be game over Blackmagic?

Probably not - still have the half of the price factor.

Just now, webrunner5 said:

https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/blackmagicpocketcinemacamera/techspecs/W-CIN-12

Curious about the weight, not mentioned anywhere.

12 minutes ago, zerocool22 said:

Too bad its a recorder, I want a 7" cheap sdi monitor that only weights around 300 grams or so. I dont see the need for recording externally anymore (exept for maybe dual backup). As most camera's record RAW internally or with an addon. Its just needless extra weight on the camera.

 

Feelworld F7s, maybe? (don't know if it is good, or TOO cheap)

http://www.feelworld.cn/ShowInfo.aspx?id=510&py=FEELWORLD-F7S-7-Inch-3G-SDI-4K-HDMI-On-camera-Monitor-IPS-Full-HD-1920x1200-Rugged-Aluminum-Housing

1 minute ago, webrunner5 said:

It will probably be one touch MFT autofocus like the BMPCC had.

Yep, probably will be the same.

5 minutes ago, cantsin said:

10 minutes ago, Márcio Kabke Pinheiro said:

Guess that AF will be bad as CDAF usual - good for S-AF only.

 

BM cameras don't have AF.

I thought the original BMPCC have, but it was very slow - the "focus" button on it is not an AF?

4 minutes ago, forofilms said:

Two questions, battery life and auto focus. Also, wonder about screen brightness and resolution. 

Guess that AF will be bad as CDAF usual - good for S-AF only.

Looks like that is it not so big at the end (only chunky):

Just now, Andrew Reid said:

Can say that again

And the sensor is significantly wider than the GH5's

Any other company except Sony and Panasonic(?) are making 4/3 sized sensors?

2 minutes ago, Don Kotlos said:

Yeah the GH5s is going to be affected the most. 

The preorder queue for this thing is going to be huge. 

They really went all in. 

Yep, if it works right and have the same (or near) GH5s low light capabilities, GH5s is dead. Probably better color science, 4k RAW , XLR input for HALF of the price.

Fuji version rigged and with lens:



(talking seriously, specs for the price looks amazing)
 

Just now, sanveer said:

The Live Stream has suddenly LOST audio. Wow

Looks like that the audio preamp problems of the BMPCC were not solved. 

Dual ISO means GH5s sensor?

15 minutes ago, jonpais said:

Forget the lack of zebras or waveform monitor, silly codec, intentionally crippling 4K HDMI out and no articulating LCD screen on the 5D Mark IV - there wasn’t even a flat picture profile at release. I think it’s abundantly clear Canon wants filmmakers to spend a ton of cash for features that have been available on practically every hybrid camera for several years now. 

And indeed a lot of filmmakers spend a ton of cash buying the Canon's C line - which makes us to come back to the first two posts.  People still buy Canons a lot - why they will change?

They will only change when the revenue starts to drop - could be the case, since last Canon's interviews mention mirrorless cameras a lot. I see two possible outcomes:

- They are smart and have mirrorless prototypes under works for a lot of time. In this meantime, the market had matured, the desired features are more or less known, and they can release cameras for each segment (segmentation will never go away) much more focused.
- They still afraid of canibalizing DSLR's and Cinema C line and really are behind.

21 hours ago, Don Kotlos said:

Actually I have much worse experience with dust & DSLRs than I had with mirrorless. Most people don't realize that dust enters the space between the mount and the sensor no matter whether there is a mirror or not. These dust particles will then go on the sensor and in the case of DSLRs can also go to the mirror, the ground glass &  the AF sensor. Cleaning the DSLR is NO FUN and very hard to do when not on top of a clean desk. The flange distance has nothing to do with the dust or any harm to the sensor, if anything it makes cleaning it much easier. You can easily spot the dust particles and remove them with the tip of a cleaning cloth in a matter of seconds while hand holding the camera. No way you can do that with the DSLR. This whole argument sounds like it is coming from people with very little experience with both systems. If people actually searched around they would find that this is a myth and actual users report the opposite.

Here is an example: https://photographylife.com/mirrorless-vs-dslr

"Movement of Air: as the mirror flips up and down, it moves plenty of air inside the camera chamber. And with air, it also moves dust and other debris around, which eventually ends up on the camera sensor. Some people argue that their DSLR cameras are better suited for changing lenses than mirrorless cameras, because there is a mirror between the sensor and the mount. There might be some truth to that. However, what happens with that dust after the mirror moves inside the chamber? All that dust will obviously circulate inside the chamber. In my experience shooting with a number of different mirrorless cameras, I found them to be actually less prone to dust than any of my DSLRs."

That is my experience as well and I have been using these systems for years. 

Never had serious problems with dust with my m4/3 - but I'm an amateur almost using the cameras in run and gun, and always can kind of protect the open mount when changing lenses, guess it is not so easy to do it in rigged cameras.

But I've always asked myself why mirrorless manufacturers do not implement a function (that could be assigned to a button, for example) that closes the shutter when you wish to change lenses. Maybe they are afraid of shutter blades damaging?

How HLG works in 8-bit?
 

(I think that being 8-bit only and the lack of 4k60 are the only "flaws" of this camera - but I think that both points are totally expected in this price point in a FF camera. Sony nailed it.)