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From my personal perspective, no. 
Go for the MixPre / F Series, the leap up from everything underneath it is so huge!
Imagine if we live in a world where you could buy a Canon C300mk3 for only a five hundred extra bucks more than what the latest 5D cost, would anybody recommend a 5D for specifically filmmaking any longer? Nope! (well, except for some niche exceptions)

That's what it is like in the audio world for filmmaking once the Zoom F Series was released! (and is why Sound Devices had to respond with their MixPre range)

In a way the Zoom F8 was the "HDSLR Revolution" for us aspiring PSMs, just like the D90/5Dmk2/T2i/GH1 was. No point fussing around compromising with a "cheap" EX1 and a Letus35 adapter when you can get a 5Dmk2/GH1/etc cheap instead! 

But if I was absolutely 110% restricted to a sub $200 budget, then I'd get a Tascam DR60Dmk2. 

 
No, video recorders are not made with audio recording in mind. 

(with the exception of the Video Devices range of video recorders, but that's because they're a brand created by Sound Devices!!)

Looking good but after 10 years of repeated disappointment, I'll wait for the final release to make a judgement on this camera. I hope for the beast but fear the small*, **, ***, and other omissions on the official press release. May the Hawaiian gods of photography illuminate the world with their infinite wisdom. Amen.

Looking forward to seeing if BLackmagic will use either of the new Sony sensors.  Seems to me that 8k maybe a great resolution for BRAW to record in, to deliver full 4K resolution after all of the file size reduction used to compress the images for BRAW storage and allow people to stabilize, reframe and zoom in post and then still deliver 4K. That said, I am fine with watching 1080pm video so delivering 1080p from 8k BRAW could be a great creative workflow as well, if it does not crush your computer in the editing process.  I’m not so much worried about storage size with BRAW, so give us the 8k cameras and we’ll figure out how to use it or not.

I thought this was interesting. 
http://thenewcamera.com/list-of-sony-sensors-to-be-used-in-upcoming-dslr-and-mirrorless-worlwide/
I know this is speculation central, but that apsc sensor looks promising.  Of course no idea of readout and dynamic range, but 8k is coming for good or ill

The 4/3rd IMX594CQR is intriguing. 41MP but only shoots 4K DCI. I wonder if it does 4K 120p.
Panasonic, this most likely candidate for 8K, said they aren’t ready for it in 2020. So that either means no GH6 this year, or a non-8K GH6 with oversampled 4K which would be beautiful. 

Hurrah.  Apsc is the ideal sensor size IMHO. Better noise and dynamic range than m43, higher frame rates than full frame, easier to move and cool than full frame. Speed-boostable for a full frame look. There's nothing sensible out there at the moment so I'll be watching this fuji closely. 
 

Yeah the Flat profile is quite good. As long as you expose decently and get decent white balance you'll have no issues. 

Honestly I'd just stick to the recorder you have. Looks similar to the Zoom H1 which is a great little recorder. Nothing really wrong with 3.5mm jacks.

You could get a preamp if you want to record sound right to your camera. 

Yes they said under $3000, but I prefer to think of this as "price isn't decided to a large degree". I reckon it'll be £1999.

massive.  prediction: the sort of processing I do on real estate pics will be pretty well dead in 5-10 years time.  They won't be as good, but they will be "good enough".  I can imagine the new image processing software will just have  bunch of looks, and ai will do the rest. This is the reason I'm trying to get out of the game now.  It's bound to come to video, too. 


 

cant afford those red ones

Unless its a RED One.

Neat Video.

So I guess you're only shooting with Arri and Red cameras (because they're professional) using Zeiss Primes (because they're professional) and put it all on O'Connor sticks (because they're professional)? Anything else and you should expect 480p TOPS (because it's not professional) ? 
 
I hate these kinds of stupid comments. He should absolutely expect a perfectly usable product for 200 euro. Not everyone needs 3km range and perfect crystal clear full spectrum audio that will make sure bride's "yes I do" will be transmitted on hollywood level never seen before on a damn youtube wedding video.
 
I've been using my Rode Filmmaker Kit with zero issues in tightly packed convention centers. My drone has more issues being on 2.4 Ghz than the Rode.

I was expecting this post!!! Thanks Andrew! EOSHD is the only website to acknowledge that the two cameras have nothing new, but they are a rebadged mashup of the previous APS-C cameras, they just added a flip screen, HLG, autofocus and processor from the A6400 and only the batteries from the A73 series. Otherwise, pure shit. All of the other websites praising the new battery, the AF speed, come on, it's the same camera.
I changed from Sony to Fuji because I needed to shot lots of 1080 50p (I live in a PAL country) and I was tired of the constant decreasing quality of the 1080p on Sony APS-C cameras, it's a REAL shit, It's canon-like shit, it has no detail, lots of moire and aliasing, and not even gonna talk about slow-mo which is even worse. The 1080p quality started to decrease from the A6300, which is worse than the A6000. As you can check out here, I had both and it's true.

I bought the X-T30, because I was a bit short of money..
And I'm more than happy, the colors are awesome, you can get a nice baked in color if you want or a really flat image with lots of information without having to use F-log, you have way less rolling shutter, you have plenty of options for dynamic range, it has a beautifully detailed 1080p image, and from that an almost unchanged 1080p 100-120fps. You could just shoot everything in 100fps that you wouldn't notice the difference, but you have no audio   ?‍♂️ . You can shoot with an HDMI monitor and you DON'T loose you LCD scree image, none of the Sony can do that. The only thing I miss from Sony is the AF on video... that is something that Fuji is bit behind, you got less options, it's not as reliable, for tracking a face it's fine, other things, not as much as Sony.
You can check out video resolution in here, it's a great tool to know the resolving power of cameras in different resolutions. It's for sharpness only, you can't check other features like iso, dynamic range, etc. But it's good enough and quite reliable.
https://***URL removed***/reviews/image-comparison/fullscreen?attr29_0=sony_a6300&attr29_1=fujifilm_xt30&attr72_0=1080&attr72_1=1080&normalization=full&widget=636&x=-0.04440091689095804&y=0.2513405105351813

So much this.  WTH/F Adobe?  There's no reason with their budget that they couldn't have released a cohesive "PRO" version of their editing software with strict hardware requirements and support so it's an effective reliable tool.  Nope, just an endlessly buggy BS.
My favorite new annoyance is this:  I do a lot of slow-mo, and I like to shoot in 60p.  So, I batch apply 50% speed to my clips for my 30p sequences.  In bins I can scroll the thumbnails, which is helpful.  However, latest version, for no discernible reason, will now "blank" all thumbnails of clips with any speed variance applied.  They get turned to black.  So now I'm looking at a bin full of black thumbnails.  Basically, making thumbnails of clips with speed adjustment useless.
https://forums.adobe.com/thread/2622768
Yes, it's not the end of the world, but it affects the workflow.  One needs to fight Premiere to work effectively.  That's always been the problem.  It just doesn't play nice. I've been using Premiere on and off since version 1, so I know it's always been a problem child.  
Had a 15 year run there when I was on Final Cut and that was nice.  One of my colleagues is still using FCP.  I might return to it although I don't find it as appealing as the traditional version.  Ugh, I dunno.  Gave Resolve a spin but their version of using proxies was unreliable and everything I do is proxy editing...so still looking.

whert? theres only 5 reasons, and none of them are that interesting. I only own the 14-30 f4. It's really handy, but it's not great, soft at 14, and farking expensive for a plastic focus by wire lens. And on that - what in gods name is good about it? They are a pain in the arse to fcus manually, let alone focus pull.  The 14-30 is soft enough that even zoomed all the way in focussing by wire is a nightmare. Nikon touted it's lens mount as enabling super-duper lens design, then brought out f1.8 primes and f4 zooms aimed at a consumer market. Totally batso strategy and SNAFU for nikon.  The only native z lenses I'm going to consider buying are wide, or light lenses, Because once you get over a certain size and weight, you may as well buy f-mount and keep your mounting options open (ie you can adapt them to everything else, whereas z-mount lenses are for z-cameres only). 

My lens research over the last few months has been on the
zhongyi 85mm f1.2, 50mm f0.95
laowa 10-18. 12mm zero d, 105 f2. 
sigma and nikon 105 f1.4, 
even if z versions are released, I still might consider buying e or F mount versions of these lenses because it leaves my future options open. 
If nikon had released z versions of a 12-24 f4, 16-40 f2.8, 50 f1.2 that is a similar size to it's existing f1.2 lens (with similar rendering),  and 20, 35, 85 f1.4 primes I would've looked hard at all of those.  And why not have a focus by wire option that keeps the travel of the lens ring locked to how much the focus changes? how hard can that be?
 
 

Feels so good. Not sure it'll still feel good in 2 weeks time when my subscription runs out.  I have 20 odd years of Adobe workflow to re-do.  (I may end up resubscribing to Photoshop and lightroom but if Snapseed was a desktop app I would think about ditching them too).  So resolve is the no-brainer choice.  Can i get away with the freebie version?  And if not should I buy the bmpcc4k? I cant remember if the free version includes their warp stabiliser equivalent. 
Any other software I should look at?

omg andrew whoo iss sheeee in your new iconnnn
/adobe = im over it!!!!
resolve = god tier. using v. 16 rn and im lovin it™
heres a short i made last year that i did 100% in resolve, the free version, NOT KNOWING WTH I WAS DOING (lol). came out ok~!
>>> for real: im teaching my friend resolve rn, and what im telling him is, "It's easy, but the learning curve is steep, and Resolve may seem pretty odd at first, it did for me~! Nodes are like layers in Photoshop, etc etc..."

Congratulations ?
The stabilizer is included in the free software

I've been using the free version of Resolve and have pretty much overcome any learning curve I had, outside of Fusion which I still can't wrap my head around. I plan to upgrade but have been waiting on whether or not I pull the trigger on the Pocket 4K or not (decisions!) 
It feels good to be out of the Adobe system overall. I'm quite pleased with Affinity Photo and their apps. I just need that After Effects replacement! 

Well Chris I have grown to hate Adobe with a passion. It's not because of the subscription model, its because the subscription model has earned them billions, whilst their products have stagnated and their support has gone down the toilet. I was an unofficial adobe evangelist. Photoshop was amazeballs in 1997, but it essentially hasn't changed much. Their algorithms remain untouched. As do the paradigms. But all of that is nothing compared to the towering magnificence of their ability to ignore bugs.  There is one that dates back to lightroom 2. I had a workaround, but now that's broken too. It's broken my workflow. Their tech support is a joke. It's like falling out of love with someone: suddenly you realise the love is gone and all those little things you out up with for years now drive you nuts. In fact you realise you can't stand them and never want to see them again, the treacherous harpies!  
There's probably a meme out there with that guy turning round from his gf and looking at a girl he's just walked past. Well, that. 

Feels so good. Not sure it'll still feel good in 2 weeks time when my subscription runs out.  I have 20 odd years of Adobe workflow to re-do.  (I may end up resubscribing to Photoshop and lightroom but if Snapseed was a desktop app I would think about ditching them too).  So resolve is the no-brainer choice.  Can i get away with the freebie version?  And if not should I buy the bmpcc4k? I cant remember if the free version includes their warp stabiliser equivalent. 
Any other software I should look at?

Fusion is the after effects replacement, it just is a completely different interface. I'm trying to wrap my head around it as well.
Keeping up with software is a job in and of itself. With Blender's recent overhaul I'm committed to learning it to the point of doing 3D animatics for storyboarding and basic visual effects like tracked fire and explosions. We'll see how successful I am with that endeavor!

I ditched Adobe over a year ago. DXO PhotoLab and Black magic Resolve are superior to Lightroom and Premiere Pro imo. There are also plenty of Photoshop alternatives. 

Feels so good. Not sure it'll still feel good in 2 weeks time when my subscription runs out.  I have 20 odd years of Adobe workflow to re-do.  (I may end up resubscribing to Photoshop and lightroom but if Snapseed was a desktop app I would think about ditching them too).  So resolve is the no-brainer choice.  Can i get away with the freebie version?  And if not should I buy the bmpcc4k? I cant remember if the free version includes their warp stabiliser equivalent. 
Any other software I should look at?