sanveer

I couldn't agree more. The LX100ii is such a piece of crap. I really don't know what they were thinking. I am also noy sure how the GX9 (or even GX85) is not vastly superior to the LX100 ii and actually eating into its market. 
Also the GX line has shown that there is a serious issues with the naming scheme and feature set on certain Panasonic lines. The GX8 was this 600 pound gorilla after the GX7 with enormous shutter shock (so much so that they had to change the entire shutter mechanism, giving a huge boost to Panasonic's shutter improvements across most of its cameras after that), and much larger body. Also why the GX line doesn't have a mic in is another strange question. The GX9 is what the GX8 should have been.
 
True, but it's over a stop slower. Which seems a lot for a camera system which doesn't have very high ISO capabilities. 
 
The way I see this, is that M43 system started out as this extremely innovative way of handling smaller bodies and newer technologies from getting rid of the mirror; to touch focus, to focus and exposure and other stacking options (improving dynamic range, exposure, creating wider depth of field etc);  Live Composite Mode and other similar modes On the Olympus and thay new compositing mode on Panasonic that merges many images into a single where a person or thing is shown performing an action (sequence composition?)
etc. The are SO MANY feature sets, both in Hardware and Software, but they have just not been fine tuned and advertised and polished enough. Like the Touch to Focus has been around for the longest, in both photo and video, and yet the focus in video has been terrible since the GH1 (in 2009?). It's like the different between Apple and a lot of Android phones that aren't doing too well. Apple mostly doesn't create any new tech and has so many hardware and software glitches. But it fine tunes many features almost seamlessly, from opening its API for video Apps, to fine tuning colour accuracy on its screens, to having that superb FaceID unlock etc.
The way I see it, M43 is not thinking ahead of the competition, like it used to. It was the first with IBIS, 10-bit video, Mirrorless and touch screen functionality, super tiny ILC form factor (the Panasonic 4/3 sensor GM1 was smaller than the Samsung NX1 which has a 1inch sensor, and which lacked an EVF and had less buttons too) etc. It it hasn't fine tuned it's feature set. 
 

Like I said before, and most people disagreed with me, the future of m43 is a gimbleless future. If they can give us perfectly stabilised footage straight out of camera that alone makes it unique among the competition and saves a lot in time and the extra cost of a gimbal. I don't know what 7.5 stops will mean practically once they do their crop but I would imagine we are getting pretty close. 

Quite good actually. IMHO the background score and foley need a little not work, especially since its a horror flick (and a little interplay between them in the sound design). In the edit if you could do a little more back and forth, especially when the light first goes out and in the end, by hanging between frames and angles, it could look very scary.
Nice work 
 

Thank you for the feedback! I think you make good points. I wasn't really happy with the sound edit. 

It's Northrup. And the Z6 seems to have a pretty damn small buffer in it also.

So, let me get this straight...
A forum member (who contributes a lot to this place by the way) makes a cautionary post about having two separate failures of a camera model that many people on here may be looking to buy and the response is to criticise his work ?
Are you trying to suggest he broke these cameras by virtue of taking photographs that you don't particularly like ?
Have I got that right?
That both of these cameras self destructed on the grounds of taste?
Because if you are not suggesting that then you need to accept that your contribution to this particular thread is as irrelevant as it is mean spirited.
 

Well stated @sanveer

The whole licence agreement of Panasonic from Leica for the L-series Cameras sounds curiously suspect. Because:
1. Not getting Olympus on-board has a Lot more to do with Olympus not being interested in Full Frame. It wouldn't take Olympus to figure that out after spending half a decade patenting all sorts of Full Frame lenses (I will read the literature again to see if it mentioned mount size or name). 
2. Like Sigma (and others before it showed us), it is mostly quite simple to re-mount between various Full Frame lens mounts (unless obviously the mount size are enormously different). So it obviously didn't have to do with merely different mounts. Unless the Olympus mount had some seriously Path Breaking advantages over the Leica one (which seems unlikely, atleast until we hear more of that or until the 1st quarter of 2019 when Olympus' new enormous sized camera is revealed).
3. The Varicam and the Eva aren't using Full Frame Sensors or proprietary Panasonic mounts, which makes Panasonic cinema line-up the last to the full frame party (Blackmagic's prices are too low to count). Therefore Panasonic's high end cinema division also would be looking for a (non-Propreitory) new mount usable for Full Frame lenses for the Full Frame Varicam sensor (which should hopefully make it well before 2020). This may be a reason why Leica wants to edclusively make the Cinema lenses for Panasonic and Panasonic probably didn't wanna share the mount with Olympus.
The whole M43 collaboration wasn't really a collaboration to begin with with various splattering of lenses and technologies between Panaspnic and Olympus. Also no proper roadmap. In the end Panasonic beat Olympus because Olympus' top end cameras didn't have enough video features to justify their price and Panasonic got the IBIS tech from Olympus, arguably the biggest advantage in Olympus cameras. 
 

Well...its a strange thing with that particular lens.
The LensRegain is only 1 stop but it reports it as f1.8 and my metabones reports it as f1.9 so its all a bit odd.
Anyway, budget for 1 stop and you won't be disappointed !
Its great value at that price for the Pocket4K because - and again if someone knows different please chime in - the fact that there is nothing other than aperture control from smart adapters for it means that its the only way you are going to get focus control of Canon lenses on it without resorting to a follow focus system and all that that entails rig wise.
Would I recommend it at the original price?
Possibly not but if you can get one at the current price then its certainly a bargain.
I think someone further up the thread said if they used PayPal as a checkout option it worked?

The GH5s is proof that M43 can match FF for video dynamic range, and also having great video low light. 
I wonder if it could do like a QuadBayer version of that for higher MP as well as better low light by a similar process (/algorithm) used by the new night mode on the pixel. 8.9/9MP for Video and (4 times that) 36MP for photos. Some Super HDR mode for photos. A lens redesign could help with having higher res photos.
One of the weaknesses of M43 was apparently the photographic capabilities of the smaller sensor (and lack of PDAF). If they can address those two, and keep the Size a little smaller, I can see it kicking some big fat FF ass. 

I think the REAL fun with the reviews will start with the BRAW firmware coming in. Much smaller file sizes in RAW (12:1), improved low light compared to DNG, much more film-like grain, and I am guessing some minor improvement in dynamic range (mostly due to way the noise in the Last stops may appear). 

I think the REAL fun with the reviews will start with the BRAW firmware coming in. Much smaller file sizes in RAW (12:1), improved low light compared to DNG, much more film-like grain, and I am guessing some minor improvement in dynamic range (mostly due to way the noise in the Last stops may appear). 

Actually since it relies so heavily on Touch sensitivity (plus that well spaced and amazingly well laid out menu) they put the 5inch monitor on it. With a low tensile strength body like this composite one (compared to aluminium and maybe even magnesium alloy) the body would have cracked with any kind of movement on the monitor.
Plus the Aluminium and Magnesium alloy would have added to the price.
Even though it isn't heavy at all, I still think it's quite large. 
@Andrew Reid you've turned this into another low light monster (like the amazing f0.74 you pushed the original BMPCC to). I wish someone would make an extremely small gimbal (maybe built into a cage only slightly larger than the one made by smallRig) built into a Camera Cage.
I still think the body is too large. I wish it were smaller. It would be easier to hide it and easier to have it on a tiny gimbal. 

How about diversifying this post to Best Editing Pcs at various price points:
1. $1000
2. $2000
3. $3000
4. $5000
5. $10000
 
Anyone wanting to spend more than $10k on an editing PC should probably just use services of companies like Prime Focus or some high end post processing and management agency. 
 
 

Yes the menus are fantastic, the general control layout - I did not realise this until today when I finally put it in my hand - is lovely. Much nicer than I expected. Even the polycarbonate plastic construction doesn't bother me. If anything it's good, because it makes for a very lightweight construction. This is a big camera by mirrorless standards but a TINY and light on by pro video standards, let alone cinema RAW proportions.
Yes there are baffling decisions going on but a lot of common sense too. I still do not like Blackmagic's launch strategy and initial shipping quantities, it is ridiculous to be tormented for months with a mix of teasing and social media hype - I almost went mad - but believe me it is worth the wait. Again like BTM says, far from perfect, or without quirks - but it is different to anything else I own and a worthy upgrade from the original - in fact it is SIGNIFICANTLY better than that first camera in every way. Something I did not realise until I actually turned up.
I am going to have so many words to eat from this thread, I'll probably choke to death.

All Panasonic were waiting for was to release it with their own name on it.
They have had a FF mirrorless 4K camera with 10 bit 4:2:2 HDMI output hiding in plain sight for 3 years and 4 days.
 

How about diversifying this post to Best Editing Pcs at various price points:
1. $1000
2. $2000
3. $3000
4. $5000
5. $10000
 
Anyone wanting to spend more than $10k on an editing PC should probably just use services of companies like Prime Focus or some high end post processing and management agency. 
 
 

Welcome back Zack. It's nice to see you again. Hope you're good. 

Welcome back Zack. It's nice to see you again. Hope you're good. 

This sensor has been in development since the time of Adam and Eve. And probably won't be ready before judgment day. ???

This sensor has been in development since the time of Adam and Eve. And probably won't be ready before judgment day. ???

I watched a lot of videos online and it seems like the 2 pro isn't as great as we all wished it to be.
It seems like for a portion of the money, the Air is the most portable solution, and the cheaper 1" Phantom has much better IQ.
I am not so excited anymore. It is a better Mavic, but not that great in general, and Mavic's IQ was terrible, to start with. 

This sensor has been in development since the time of Adam and Eve. And probably won't be ready before judgment day. ???

Snapchat in 2019 

"The Leica M10-D goes on sale today for $7995. The Visoflex EVF is priced at $575."

Ouch