Eric Calabros

Who are the judges? Can we ask them take an IQ test? Or maybe its too late for IQ test and we should consider MRI scan. I think some parts of their brain have serious issues. 

It’s odd - I get fanboy will be fanboys - but why is everyone on Facebook and reduser saying this is such great news? I mean even if you own a red, why wouldn’t you want to see compressed RAW in other products? Competition is a good thing and it gives consumers more choice. It’s like me celebrating that my S1H won a case that will allow them to be the only camera that can record to an SD card. Why would I celebrate that? 

My take is that many of the things that camera nerds on forums obsess over are surprisingly unnoticeable.  I used to get caught up in things like resolution and bit depth and colour science, and after seeing a few real tests (or even better - real world tests) I got a shock and learned that some things really make very little difference.
That's why I question things I'm lead to believe and actually go and do tests to find out.  I do far more tests than I talk about on here, gradually unlearning the BS that the internet is full of.  Of course, much of what is talked about does matter and the vast majority matters sometimes and not other times.  That deeper knowledge takes years to learn on the internet, or mere hours if you pick up a camera and go do a test and see what the end result looks like.
“What gets us into trouble is not what we don't know. It's what we know for sure that just ain't so.”  ― Mark Twain

Interesting! I think that A7S is also being oversampled, as far as I can tell from Kasson's methodology. The sensor is 12MP with a height of 2832, and it is downscaled to 2160. That's just over 31% oversampling. The numbers I see thrown around for how much you have to oversample to overcome bayer patterns is usually around 40%, so A7S is already in the oversampling ballpark of resolving "true" 2160.
With that in mind, I was surprised at how much difference in color there is. Even on the real world images, there's a nice improvement in color issues on the A7R4 over the A7S. The difference in sharpness was not very pronounced at all. But bayer patterns retain nearly 100% luminance resolution, so maybe that makes sense. The color difference evens out a bit when the advanced algorithms are used, which really shows the huge potential of computational photography, all the way from better scaling algorithms, up to AI image processing.
I suspect that some of our concept that oversampling makes vastly better images comes from our experience moving from binned or line skipped to oversampling, rather than directly from native to oversampling. And I also think that we all agree that after a point, oversampling doesn't help. 100MP vs 50MP won't make a difference if you scale down to 2MP.

Jim Kasson did a series of tests about this subject: does 6k or 8k or even 9k image downsampled to 4k look better than native 4k? Though he is a still guy but the test is relevant for video shooters. This is the last one but check the previous posts too.
https://blog.kasson.com/the-last-word/camera-resolution-and-4k-viewing-a7s-a7iii-a7riii-a7riv-downsampled/
My take is that if you dont shoot texts or Siemens star or a chart, the difference is surprisingly unnoticeable! And keep in mind, Jim is doing this in post, using a powerful PC, using the best available software and algorithms. We know the downsample process happening inside the cameras are far from the best possible, they want to do it fast without using much power, it shouldn't be a very computationally expensive task. 
 

Yeah.
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Some frame grabs from a promo I'm working on for a local inn. Fruit was captured in portrait, outdoor greeting in FLAT.

Reduser still going on about how if Red cameras are just a pile of commodity parts then why don’t more companies do it which if they ignored their doublethink they would realize other companies are and that this isn’t at all the argument jinni is making. The mental gymnastics is 10/10.

I want colors close to this (not that much warm though).. but straight out of camera! Wish Nikon let us import luts.. someday.
 

I want colors close to this (not that much warm though).. but straight out of camera! Wish Nikon let us import luts.. someday.
 

"put raw data in internal storage media" is not a company intellectual property and shouldn't be. These guys are a bunch of charlatans. Period.

"put raw data in internal storage media" is not a company intellectual property and shouldn't be. These guys are a bunch of charlatans. Period.

"put raw data in internal storage media" is not a company intellectual property and shouldn't be. These guys are a bunch of charlatans. Period.

"put raw data in internal storage media" is not a company intellectual property and shouldn't be. These guys are a bunch of charlatans. Period.

This guy is brilliant. He has already brought Red to its knees. Sony and Apple should hire him for sending Red to the cleaners wrt their fake patents. 
I noticed he has a gofundme campaign, and I  would love to contribute. Anyone who believes in honesty and fighting off the evil behemoths and corporate super bullies,  should help him too. In whatever little way. 
This is truly the modern age David vs Goliath story. 

I want colors close to this (not that much warm though).. but straight out of camera! Wish Nikon let us import luts.. someday.
 

lol every time Sony chooses a new date to announce A7S, a camera maker releases a better one!

Just read the thread, what a rollercoaster one.

Just waiting for the revelation that the real patent holder for internal RAW is Ebrahim Saadawi.

Which you can't hold. 

Which you can't hold. 

Which you can't hold. 

Some new additions to our extended family.