ntblowz

1 hour ago, markr041 said:

Ok, feel good now about your comment on my videos? Think this makes your defense of using a fan to make the ZV E1 a strap-down long-video camera more credible? I thought it was a joke. But you are actually so lacking resources for what you do professionally that you are serious?

It must be very frustrating to be so unsuccessful in life that you cannot afford an fx3 when it is evident you need one. I don't actually think you cannot afford whatever eqipment you need, and you are just being contrarian, right?

I would love to shoot a bts video of the fan technique, but it would be embarrassing, and I never shoot anyone to embarrass them.

Meanwhile, I will enjoy making random videos of random people, whether some like them or not. With suitable equipment.

I see you like to make yourself superior by looking others who are less fortunate in terms of finance, but sorry i m just sick of you attacking people who use camera that doesn't use the same way as you do.

Of course for you it always about you you and you, it easy to see based on your comment, I wonder what happend to your life, no wonder on dpreview no one gives a shit about the all those video post you posted.

E1 is definitely not the target audience for people who are on this forum, youtube is definitely is. 

Having said that, a fan and e1 and a lens still cost way less than a fx3, and times that by 3 the price difference is quite a lot. 

And seriously is that all you shoot? Just a bunch of random video with random strangers doing their own stuff that give you voyeuristic feel? Especially if you want something small so people don't notice that you are filming them in secret?

I actually bought the fan

5 hours ago, herein2020 said:

 

You are right, it does work if you select external monitor only. For me only the R5 and C70 work the way that I think it "should" work, but at the end of the day you can livestream and record internally with the R7 with a clean HDMI feed  and it probably works the same way for the R6II.

So for me, its back to the original cripple hammer problem which is the micro HDMI port, just the two times I plugged in the HDMI cable to test this feature felt like I was going to break the port. I can kind of understand no full HDMI port on the R7, but the R6II and R5? Really Canon? My Canon Rebel has a better HDMI port than the R5.

That why I have the really thin smallrig  micro hdmi to hdmi cable and hdmi connector to connect to the thick hdmi cable. I usually wrap the cable around the tripod head to make sure the cable won't rip camera apart.

But yeah micro hdmi is not idea but there are ways to get around the filmsy connector.

This is with R7 and R5 livestreaming and recording in camera on both (R7 was on the other side)

10 hours ago, tosha187 said:

on card - in camera with HDMI out recording is what i was talking about.

and R6MKII not Canon cameras in general.

obviously you can record if you bring 5k of recording gear.

what bothers me is the removal of basic features that were present since forever.

Yes it can, I been doing in camera recording multi cam livestream with Canon many times on R7, R5 and now R8 beside C70 and R5C.

Don't choose the camera +hdmi option period if u need recording in camera 

You can do clean hdmi out with recording, make sure nothing is displayed before you press record. I done countless livesteram on Canon.

21 hours ago, D Verco said:

This is competing against the R5 and A7RV, but in Australia those cameras are available for at least $1500 less

Yeah seems like people outside US getting the shaft in terms of pricing.

Z8 does make R5 look dated, Canon and Sony better have stacked sensor for their next cam at this price range with 45mp+ sensor.

R5II definitely need stack sensor to compete against Z8

Part of the camera history just gone like that

19 hours ago, ade towell said:

R6 has 4k 50p full frame but I don't use it so no big deal for me - obviously for some it is important 

 

For me having FF 4K50P is definitely priority number one, you loose the FF look and also the noise too vs APSC crop and make focal length less wide, I have used my R5 with external monitors for many times and the micro hdmi port still hold up well even though my R5 have gone through some tough situations (lots of paint clips around the body or dropped from the table.. camera still tough as tank), I haven't seen any overheating warning even when shooting 8K stock footage whole day under the big sun with not clouds so that initial overheating firmware is real B$ from canon.

R6 have to cropped a bit in FF 4K (5K oversample) and upscale a bit in crop 4K so quality is a bit less than R6II/R8 with full 6K FF/1:1 in crop 4k.

Since I also shoot in controlled environment with 300D/600D lights so DR is not much of an issue vs shooting everything natural/ambient/small light for some of the people out there.

For XLR Audio I just get Zoom F3 with 32bit float which you dont have to worry about peaking ever. 

Not every system is perfect but we can get creative with those short coming, you just choose whatever suits you as there and try work out the kinks as there is no perfect system out there.

29 minutes ago, Kisaha said:

Overheating is a main concern here in Greece, we have Sahara desert (literally we have Sahara sand dozens of days in Greece lately) weather during summers (climate change and all..). Main reason I never considered Sony for workhorse cameras, NX1 were amazing at the time in heat dissipation. I do an indoors theater tmrow and I will use the R7 for the very first time for a job, but it will keep just a wide shot..I will check battery life and heat management, as it is usually north of 25degrees C in full indoor theaters.. my main camera will be the Pocket 4K though with the Olympus 12-100mm 4f.

R8 will be complementary to the R7, but Panasonic S5IIX can take the part of the Pocket+R8+R7 I guess..(I certainly need 2 cameras though to have at all times, and the S5IIX doesn't have a clear candidate for a lesser and cheaper second body, but maybe I just keep also the Pocket 4K, and the S5 is the all arounder..easy).

 

My original plan was R8 + R7 combo, but like you I dont have much ASPC lens except the Sigma 18-35mm 1.8 and 18-150mm rf-s lens, I did use the 18-150mm on a number of jobs cause for event having good focal range is the king. The Sigma 18-35 1.8 not so much cause I got 24-70mm 2.8 which is similar size/weight but more reach, so I decide to sell the R7 and keep R5 at end.

In here for the price S5II body you can R8+24-50mm kit + RF 50mm 1.8 + used 35mm 1.8 or  ef 17-40mm f4 or ef 24-105 f4 or ef 70-200 f4 .. so for me R8 is definitely the better buy, if you want to shoot 4K50p/60P the 20 end become 30mm which is not so wide. But if S5II with kit and 50mm is similar as R8 over there then go ahead I guess?

11 minutes ago, hyalinejim said:

I assumed it was the same as regular model but with All-I and black exterior.

But maybe they have been taking S5II feedback on board and will implement some of it in the X.

Yeah, I hope they fix the CDAF on FHD 50P/60P mode, cause that is ridiculous.

20 minutes ago, Django said:

tried out a bunch of cams but forgot about the R8, might have to go back and check it out.. what's the overheat limit like @ntblowz ?

 

also I've never tried "HDR PQ". what are the benefits compared to log? baked-in look with similar DR?

Haven't run into overheating here as it is autumn heading into winter.. but I feel it wont last as long as R7 or R5 during summer time, I did got up to 4-5 bars under full sun in the afternoon for 4K50p during ceremony. (temp 20-21c), on 4K25p only up to 2 bars.  I have yet to see the bar appearing on R7.

HDR-PQ is for HDR display which u dont need to grade if it is playing on HDR device, but you can grade it like log profile and export for SDR monitor which is what the guy did for that R50 video.

This guy managed to get 4K60p recording from 40min to over 1hr 40min with this fan kit

21 minutes ago, Django said:

 

Now about the overheat. After 15mn of shooting 4K60p indoors using lowest bitrate codec, the camera shut off with no warning. I thought the battery had died lol. That was on the normal level heat setting, so I put it into high and didn't run into the issue again but I was shooting short clips, changing lenses every 5 minutes and didn't spend more than an hour with the unit. I didn't have a fast card so wasn't even able to test out the higher bitrate settings or ALL-I. The camera did feel warm after about hour.

This pretty much confirmed my suspicions through the reviews that this camera is not fit for pro/extended use but rather casual shooting. I still find the price of 2799€ pretty bonkers for a camera with no EVF, single card slot, zero cooling, no mechanical shutter etc. But the IQ and snappiness is impressive.

No EVF is a key feature according to Sony

Wonder how long the the camera last with 4K120P in july/aug temperature..

The processor on those new camera felt much more refined vs 2-3 year old release, the R8 makes my R5 felt a bit old for sure lol.

On 4/30/2023 at 10:18 AM, SRV1981 said:

Any links for r7 footage ?

Will share once I done the edit

9 hours ago, dreamplayhouse said:

Is it possible to load Cinestyle on the Canon R50/R10 ? I know they don't have C-Log 3 so wondering.

Just use HDR-PQ which will have more DR than cinestyle profile, like this guy shot in HDR to get the most of DR.

9 minutes ago, SRV1981 said:

40* MP, who needs 8k? Arri is 2k and the best you can get. Would love to see manufactures go toward color and DR. 

Sorry but VR and VP will need 8K, just because you dont need it doesn't mean others dont need it either.

So I used both R7 and R8 on a music festival, again R7 1 battery last whole night (4k25p), R8 I used pd powerbank so I don't have to swap battery.

Though I do see the overheating warning bar appearing on R8 but again only up to 1 bar, on R7 I didn't see the bar at all.  

The R7 with Sigma 18-35mm 1.8 is a killer combo, the 4k crop mode is really handy for zoom in (make the 35mm end into a 100mm equivalent zoom), and IS is tripod like stability even in a crowded space, just the 4k60p and lowlight noise is not as good as the R8.

Canon DM-E1 shotgun mic allows you to switch between mono and 90/120 degree stereo, uses 3.5mm input so any camera can work.

20 minutes ago, Kisaha said:

Tell us more! I am probably buying it too..

What about the battery life? is it pro worthy do you believe?

Battery life only last 1hr with 4k.. so need either PD powerbank or charge battery often.

R7 battery life on the other hand last ages, R5 was on 2nd battery and R7 still on 1st battery when shooting the reception, both shooting 4k25p.

To me the weight saving alone is totally worth it, atm I m shoot 3 out of 6 days so far, the 277g weight saving make a difference to me as I m not as exhausted vs using R5.  So now I m tempted to get RS3 mini to have even more weight saving.

Just got the R8 today and use it for an Indian Ceremony, shot most of it in 4K50P and the heating indicator only goes up to 1 bar so that is not bad.

So much lighter vs the R5 on gimbal, I can felt the weight saving!