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I know quite a lot of company nowadays uses ChatGPT to write the content.. even my company does too and we have a full time copy writer.

52 minutes ago, Andrew Reid said:

It probably won't even let you shoot video in the PSAM modes like R6.

 

If u look at the top it have photo and video mode switch just like R7/R6ii, so this is way better than R6 who can't even have custom c1/c2 mode for video.

49 minutes ago, Django said:

Wow the R8 has the same sensor and specs as the R6II including FF uncropped 4K60p in 10-bit Clog3 as well as DPAF2 with subject detect only. It even keeps the handy photo/stills switch. Only thing missing is IBIS. But for a whopping $1K less. That's quite a deal if you can forego IBIS or maybe need a B-cam for your Canon setup. Oh yeah and recording time is supposed to be 2 hours instead of unlimited which is imo a pretty ok compromise. Let's find out about overheating..

I personally dont mind the lack of IBIS because on the UW the IBIS wobble is way too noticeable, and majority of RF lens have IS, I for one might be switching the R7 to this lol, much better 4K60P quality than my R5/R7 😂

And 4K60P is limited to 30min vs unlimited on R6II/R7/R10 (4K30 on R8 is unlimited) , though for long session I only use 4K25P/30P anyway.

I don't think R7 is above S5II, that wobble on wide angle is not great..

Once I got my friend's S5II I could test it vs my R7/R5 though.

The m2 pro Mac mini will fit most of my needs so might get that in the future. 

2 hours ago, A_Urquhart said:

Same here. That's actually what I love about the FX30. No crop at 50/60p. I can switch frame rates without having to worry about lenses and crop factors.

Well that one aspect of what I love about R5, no crop on any mode with 8k/4k120p/4k60p/4k30p etc. 

But IBIS even though better Sony's but not as stable as Pany that for sure.

2 hours ago, Django said:

Finally OP did mention "image feel" and SOOC color science. This is were things get subjective. My personal preference is by far for Canon. Sony second with their latest gen CS. Panasonic third, its not bad or anything but I just find every single SOOC Panny footage kinda dull and vanilla. Same thing with the Panny lenses. They're very sharp & accurate but lack any type of mojo. Clinical is what I'd call the Panny look. Now this is just my subjective biased opinion, and some people actually like sharp & accurate colours/lenses.

 

I beg to differ, I think the color from GH6 and onward is quite pleasant looking. I edited a video with GH6/R5/GH5S a few months before.

GH6 was on nature profile but straight out of cam it just look nice, GH5S have that slight magenta and clinical look. In the end I try to match to R5 to that of GH6 nature profile as I found it look nicer.

One big downside of R6II for me is screen goes blank if u have hdmi out and recording at same time, not good for some of the events or shoot I do without getting external monitor involved to make it work.

Might be tempted to get one for light setup and travel

I am also thinking of either keeping the R7 or R5 and get the S5II, unfortunately I m fully into RF lens so might have to sell some RF to get EF lens too.

2 hours ago, IronFilm said:

Whaaat??? 😮 Why so very cheap in China?

Does this hint at maybe very soon (well before next Christmas?) we'll see the S5mk3 with sales / a price reduction in the western world as well?

I guess China is quite an important market too, now that they fully opened up so I guess economy will start to go up again.

In China they have special pre-order price of S5ii for around $1680ish.. 

Now that is quite tempted for me

Wish I still kept that EF to L with build in ND adapter. 

Maybe I might sell R7 for S5 lol. Not having internal screen with hdmi out while recording internally is frustrating for some shoots for me.

1 hour ago, Emanuel said:

I am in the market to probably end to buy one... I cannot help myself and trust me, I've tried my very best! LOL

My vote goes for Rig #2 MINIMAL WEDDING RIG !

You see? R5C is NOT actually married with the tripod, just up to us know how to date her... ;- )

Well I very welcome of you to go ahead and get one, and tell us your experience of using it.  Maybe your experience is much more positive and warmer than me lol.

2 hours ago, herein2020 said:

The R5C has to reboot to go from photo mode to video mode, the whole process takes about 8-10s. It doesn't sound like a big deal, and I didn't think it was when I read about it, but now that I am shooting with the R7 for both photo and video at events its a bigger deal than I thought. Its hard enough getting people to stand still or redo a pose long enough to get their pics taken, let alone waiting for a camera to reboot to start filming video or vice versa. 

I think Canon could really have to fix the R5C's usability, atm it's borderline usable but could be much better, like there is no reason not to shoot videos on still mode, or using dpaf Ii on cine mode as it is the same sensor! And only 40min on standby..

Did a shoot with my friend today.. yeah the R5C is perm fixed to the tripod lol.

Originally he was thinking of using R5C for mobile and C70 on tripod, but the usability of C70 is just make it much better overall.  I had the same feeling too.

I guess spec on paper is one thing and overall user experience is another, if you use camera everyday then usability wins hands down as you will want to use the camera that in sync with you than try to fight you each time.

1 hour ago, gt3rs said:

R5 and R5c have exactly the same weather sealing and same rating.

Well the weakest part of the R5C is the fan, any particles can come through the vent, so the fan can be stuck with sand particles which can make it go screaming or grinding noise

15 hours ago, Emanuel said:

Yup, reason why I cannot be so enthusiastic other than with the only single Canon hybrid to actually impress me: R5C ; )

 

I am actually not that enthusiastic on R5C after using it 6 months later... the C70 got a lot more use nowadays, and sometimes if we are out shooting remotely R5 get picked over R5c because of battery and weather sealing against all weather and condition.  We got a tiny sand stuck on the on switch of C70 which we have to send in to fix when we did a shoot on the dune, the R5 have no problem whatsoever.

So R5C is mostly a tripod camera with usb power adapter connect to the main for us nowadays beside acting as still cam.  My friend also use R5C as tripod camera with v mount battery while he roam around on his C70 too.

Who would have thought R7 actually have more DR than R6 II on video mode?

The R5 is definitely the best investment I've done so far, 4K50P runs all day without overheating after the last update, and the few cam that does hdmi + internal recording + internal monitor display on.

20 hours ago, filmmakereu said:

 I have read lens stabilization and autofocus only works on 8K50P when powered externally... Is it true?

Yeah, 8K50/60P internally in RAW format only.  If you have PD-powerbank connect to R5C it will power the lens and AF as well.

This is the only test I can see that they did 8K25p and 8K50P rolling shutter, seems like same rolling shutter performance on 25p and 50p

21 minutes ago, filmmakereu said:

Any estimation how bad rolling shutter is on 8K50P/60P?

This is R7 thread not R5C, you probably need to ask on the R5C thread

56 minutes ago, filmmakereu said:

8K50P/60P?

8K25P according to CineD

On R5/R5C 8K/4K Fine it is 15.5ms, on 4K standard mode and 4K50p it change to 9.6ms, on 5.9K RAW APS-C it is 11.5ms

On R7 the 4K Fine mode it is around 31ms according to the graph, so if 4K50P is 14.5ms then I think 4k non standard will be the same as 4K50p.

I knew Gordon done the test of 4K fine, 4K standard and 1080p quality comparison on the R5, 4k standard is still way sharper than 1080p.

6 hours ago, IronFilm said:

Suitable for casual youtubers or cameraman on simple nondemanding / noncritical shoots. 

There are many deal breakers with it:

1) 2.4GHz
2) low power RF
3) no locking connector 
4) no swappable batteries
etc 

The transmitter can record 40hr of audio (not the battery life) so if not using the wireless function the wireless go II is nice little audio recorders to put anywhere.

For wireless HDMI Accsoon CineEye 2 Pro is much better than Hollyland Mars series, the connection is much more solid when the crowd get massive.

Amazon Au have 24-26% off on R10 and R7 so I got myself R7.