ArashM Posted yesterday at 05:11 AM Share Posted yesterday at 05:11 AM 4 hours ago, Ty Harper said: Honestly, I tried IBIS with the R5 and was underwhelmed. I ended up buying a second R5C and the Digital IS along with lens IS is perfect for my needs. But also, has Canon ever put IBIS in any of their C-line cams? Canon Should try any current Lumix camera for hand held IBIS work. They are very good and there is a good portion of what I shoot now where I don't have to be on a gimbal! Danyyyel and Ty Harper 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSMW Posted yesterday at 05:26 AM Share Posted yesterday at 05:26 AM 7 minutes ago, ArashM said: Canon Should try any current Lumix camera for hand held IBIS work. They are very good and there is a good portion of what I shoot now where I don't have to be on a gimbal! Absolutely. I could not work without a camera with great stability and I mean great, not merely OK. If it can be achieved digitally, I’m OK with that but yes, Lumix is the best I have seen and experienced. I have my S9 set up to be ‘gimbal like’ with both mechanical and digital IBIS, but it’s not reliable enough for consistency and next year I am going to pick up (for the 4th time 🙄) a gimbal, except this time it won’t have a camera that needs balancing, ie Pocket 3. ArashM 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Young Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago You are welcome. eatstoomuchjam, ntblowz and Django 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zerocool22 Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago Looks nice, no ND though. I hope it will have ibis and great battery life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Django Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago Its looking pretty good, very cool they kept the lock screw mount from the rest of the C line. Guess we know for sure it does stills. Looking more & more like a R5C II in a FX type body. Lots of vents: front, side & rear.. Now all we need is the specs! eatstoomuchjam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Young Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago 11 minutes ago, zerocool22 said: Looks nice, no ND though. I hope it will have ibis and great battery life. I really hope they don't ruin it with IBIS. And seeing that they use the LP-E6p, battery life will probably be ok, but not great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Django Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago 8 minutes ago, Simon Young said: I really hope they don't ruin it with IBIS. And seeing that the battery is LPE6P the battery life will probably be ok, but not great. You mean you don't want IBIS? I have a feeling its going to be absent. That zoom rocker is interesting too. Wonder if that will allow digital zoom a la Sony clear image zoom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Young Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Django said: You mean you don't want IBIS? I have a feeling its going to be absent. That zoom rocker is interesting too. Wonder if that will allow digital zoom a la Sony clear image zoom. Yes, I would prefer no ibis for a multitude of reasons. The C50 is such a chubby FX3 epigone that it has to outclass it in order to not be torn apart by all the shilltubers. Open gate is more or less confirmed, but what sensor and what read out speed and what dynamic range we will see is still unclear. But nice that they put a CFexpress card inside, the rumors were talking about 2x SD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntblowz Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago 15 minutes ago, Django said: You mean you don't want IBIS? I have a feeling its going to be absent. That zoom rocker is interesting too. Wonder if that will allow digital zoom a la Sony clear image zoom. Time to revive that 18-135mm usm with power zoom add on. With that thickness and lots of vent this one wont be overheating at all, Lumix really need to take a cue on it Simon Young 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Django Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago 21 minutes ago, Simon Young said: Yes, I would prefer no ibis for a multitude of reasons. The C50 is such a chubby FX3 epigone that it has to outclass it in order to not be torn apart by all the shilltubers. Open gate is more or less confirmed, but what sensor and what read out speed and what dynamic range we will see is still unclear. But nice that they put a CFexpress card inside, the rumors were talking about 2x SD. I think such a compact form factor would benefit greatly from IBIS to eliminate micro jitters on handheld shots, but gimbal shooters probably don’t want it to mitigate wobble effect on wide lenses. Not a deal breaker for me personally but I’d be disappointed if they omit it. Sony shill tubers will have a field day pointing that out as a miss if that’s the case. zerocool22 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ND64 Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago For a fraction of a happy second I thought thats SDI. Nope, we're not there yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowfun Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago That will appeal to a lot of people. Yes, of course, there will be the “not for me” crowd but realistically that looks - absence of specs notwithstanding! - pretty decent for most. I like the number of physical buttons and the way it will presumably slot into a stills/video ecosystem makes it an impressive little beast. I wonder how many will be prepared to switch into the Canon garden of goodies. At least until the rumoured Nikon enters the fray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davide DB Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago Looking at those 4 screws... Aren't the same on C70, for the Canon 0,71 speedbooster? (Hence super 35mm) Or a RF-PL Mount adapter? (FF) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eatstoomuchjam Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago Ergonomics look good. CF Express is nice and a welcome surprise, given that the rumors are for 6K resolution and the C80 which is also 6K only has dual SD card slots. 2 minutes ago, Davide DB said: Aren't the same on C70, for the Canon 0,71 speedbooster? That was my first thought, but the C80 also has them so there must be more Canon adapters that can be screwed in? Or maybe this one is high-end APS-C? I'd be very OK with that. Davide DB 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Django Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 28 minutes ago, Davide DB said: Looking at those 4 screws... Aren't the same on C70, for the Canon 0,71 speedbooster? (Hence super 35mm) Or a RF-PL Mount adapter? (FF) As I commented above, that is the RF cinema line mount system. Its on C70/C80/C400 so not at all a Super35 exclusive. It's there to reinforce the mount for heavy cine glass weight and modularity/repair. What it does indicate to me is that IBIS is highly unlikely. That type of screw down rigidity doesn't have floating sensors in mind. Could be wrong but that's my feeling. Davide DB 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ty Harper Posted 2 hours ago Author Share Posted 2 hours ago If this is really how it'll look, I'm loving what I'm seeing, but prob not for me unless I sell one of my R5Cs for it. Looks like an R50V is my best bet - but I'll likely wait till the usual people run their tests and reviews before I bite the bullet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eatstoomuchjam Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago I'm on the other side - if they put a 6K DGO sensor in that body, it's almost definitely for me. I'd be so pumped to have DGO in such a small body - not to mention dedicated timecode so I don't kill my ears before I remember to mute the audio track that has the scratchy timecode sound. The biggest questions would be what existing gear I'd be selling in order to finance the purchase and whether I'd be waiting for used models to become available. 😅 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Django Posted 29 minutes ago Share Posted 29 minutes ago 3 hours ago, eatstoomuchjam said: Ergonomics look good. CF Express is nice and a welcome surprise, given that the rumors are for 6K resolution and the C80 which is also 6K only has dual SD card slots. CF Express makes sense considering the C50 is expected to do 6K oversampled open gate. That's significantly more readout data than the C80s 6K 16:9/17:9 crop. Also the stills side of C50 could benefit from CF express for RAW burst rate etc. 1 hour ago, eatstoomuchjam said: I'm on the other side - if they put a 6K DGO sensor in that body, it's almost definitely for me. I'd be so pumped to have DGO in such a small body - not to mention dedicated timecode so I don't kill my ears before I remember to mute the audio track that has the scratchy timecode sound. I wouldn't get my hopes up too high. FF 6K open gate DGO would require massive bandwidth. I just don't see that happening on a lower-end C50 in such form factor. Much more likely to have Triple ISO as that's not a bandwidth multiplier. I guess we'll know in 24 hours! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eatstoomuchjam Posted 17 minutes ago Share Posted 17 minutes ago 9 minutes ago, Django said: wouldn't get my hopes up too high. FF 6K open gate DGO would require massive bandwidth. I just don't see that happening on a lower-end C50 in such form factor. Much more likely to have Triple ISO as that's not a bandwidth multiplier. I guess we'll know in 24 hours! Indeed! If it isn't a DGO sensor, I'm not too certain that I have a reason to care about this camera much. It's not to say it'd be bad, just that it wouldn't do much that's better/different from cameras I already own - and 3:2 recording isn't a big selling point for me. I'm not sure that DGO needs that much more bandwidth, though. The C70 could do it from 4K all the way back in 2020. Surely, we've come far enough in 5 years that it could now be done on a smaller body with 3-4x the data rate! 😉 Anyway, I'm hopeful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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