Nikon Zr is coming

[MrSMW]

8 hours ago, Jahleh said:

I’ve had Z6iii now almost a year, shot mostly 6k50p and 4k100p NRaw normal with it, and I’ve got about 4TB of footage. With NRaw high and ZR REDraw that would be 8TB🤪 With Panny’s h.265 it would be only around 600GB. Shooting Raw is not cheap

Not that I have tried it yet, but post-season, for the first time, I am going to as storage is cheap and why not at least try the full capability of the camera?, good point, the data rates on Lumix has always been good!

[eatstoomuchjam]

1 hour ago, ND64 said:

In Z6iii, normal quality NRAW for 6k24p is only 750mbs. Import the file in CineX Pro, and rename the .NEV extension to .R3D, then select log3g10. Thats your REDCODE LQ.

Has somebody confirmed that renaming the file works?

[Jahleh]

51 minutes ago, MrSMW said:

Not that I have tried it yet, but post-season, for the first time, I am going to as storage is cheap and why not at least try the full capability of the camera?, good point, the data rates on Lumix has always been good!

Yes, the IQ you get from Lumix 200Mpbs and 300Mbps H.265 files is quite good. Z6iii H.265 is 400Mbps, and IQ a bit better than what S5ii had. 
 

Tried also ProresRawHQ on GH7 and Z6iii and the data rates are even bigger than NRaw High. With 2TB CFExpress card Z6iii gives this estimate for 6k25p record times:

NRaw High  171min 1559Mbps

NRaw Norm 336min 794 Mbps

ProressRawHQ. 65min 4102 Mbps

4k25p ProressHQ 316min 844 Mbps

6k50p NRaw Norm 168min 1587 Mbps

 

4TB USB C SSD is quite cheap nowadays, but scrubbing in Resolve is not as smooth than with TB4 Nvmes. 

[Ilkka Nissila]

9 hours ago, KnightsFan said:

I never said anything about single cards being a requirement. I said that if you use the camera on any kind of support (tripod, jib, car rig, shoulder rig, gimbal) it's going to be a massive pain to change the card, ergo the ZR is designed almost exclusively for handheld, unrigged use. Almost every shot on most (not all) cinema projects uses a support system. The Alexa and Raptor are quintessential cinema cameras.

If the Smallrig cage for the ZR is used, the bottom left side is Arca-Swiss compatible and the right side has a hole which allows the battery door to be opened and at least the CFExpress type B card should be easy to swap. This depends to some extent on what kind of construction the camera is mounted to, if there is space for opening the door, but it would be possible to do on some of my tripod/monopod heads. I have the Smallrig grip for the Zf and I haven't taken that off in ages. Card and battery access on the Zf is similar to the ZR. I think this situation is just an inevitable consequence of making the camera so small. You can plug in external power via USB-C to extend the shooting time. CFexpress cards are available at least up to 4 TB capacity so that would cover quite a lot without having to open the door frequently. I am sure Nikon will make larger ZR-series cameras that have fewer compromises in how the ports, cards, etc. are accessed.

 

[Thpriest]

Nikon/Red might be an interesting option. Has anyone tried the remote hand grip? How does that work? I used to love the ergonomics of the Canan C100 hand grip. For my line of work all of the latest cameras are pretty good as far as image is concerned. Now ergonomics, ease of use, reliability and price are key for me. I’d love a remote hand grip for Lumix.

[BTM_Pix]

56 minutes ago, Thpriest said:

Has anyone tried the remote hand grip? How does that work?

During my “Shall I get a Z8” research project - which has been going on so long it is featured in the Bayeux tapestry - I found the MC-N10 grip really appealing if a little pricy.

However, what is a setback is that it is a right handed grip (good for me) that connects by cable to cameras, including the ZR, with left sided USB ports.

I initially thought “well that’s awkward having to have that USB cable trailing across the camera but will use it over Bluetooth anyway”.

Except that was a flawed assumption as it doesn’t have Bluetooth.

Nikon makes a virtue of it being wired only in their product page.

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Reliable connection

This grip connects to your Nikon camera via USB-C, ensuring a stable connection no matter where you shoot. You won’t have to rely on a wireless signal if you’re shooting in a crowded location where radio interference is a problem.
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And I completely get that of course. 

There are always cable routing solutions to make it less janky than Nikon’s own promotional materials of it show so I’m sure some mitigation can be had.

The £69 Smallrig ZR cage has locking clamps for USB C as well as HDMI ports so it’s only a couple of zip ties away from not being a massive issue.

At £400+ though, I’m sure they could’ve incorporated the small addition of a Bluetooth capability with a small internal rechargeable battery to provide the option and still made money.

With the ZR having fewer hardware buttons it’s a product that could have a lot of appeal if you can swallow the price and the lack of wireless.