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Think that had more to do with the name 'JVC' giving flashbacks to mom & dad DV camcorders. Apparently there were some letdowns like display quality as well. But all who have tried it had seemed positively suprised by what it was able to do... and now many quite significant firmware updates later, it's quite capable. Really like the idea of an APS-C sensor behind a MFT mount leading to new possibilities. Wouldn't mind the new Blackmagic pocket rocket to be capable of such as well.

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Just for @BTM_Pix, there are now pics floating around of a banner showing the new Atomos Ninja V - a 5", 1000nit, recorder/monitor that does 4k60p and Prores raw. I've held off on a external recorder

Philip bloom just posted this. New BM 4k pocket cam  https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10155176035490426&id=177852000425

That's the most exciting news until now!!!

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44 minutes ago, jonpais said:

I haven’t seen enthusiasm for the pocket wane because of the m4/3 mount. Could you name some of these pros who avoided the camera because of the mount?

Well Jon for the Pocket sure it works, but a m4/3 lens doesn't cover a s35 sensor, and that is the standard of the industry like it or not. So no surprise Pros are not all over it. I mean even Panny caved in on the EVA1. And Pros aren't using a BMPCC, they use Arri all day.

I know we are talking about the BMPCC here, but this link is for the 2018 Sundance shindig this year. Damn near all of them used a Arri of some kind. It is the King for video, no way around it. And now even the s35 is fading, more and more company's coming out with FF for high end video cameras.

http://www.icgmagazine.com/web/next-level-filmmaking/

But there is still hope for us. One of the films was shot on s16mm film. Not hard to find it there. It is the one that looks like a 50's Porn Film compared to the others.

 

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1 minute ago, Cinegain said:

A lot of huuUUUge productions have used the BMPCC for vehicle mounting and sorts...

As well as dozens of feature films and shorts. Google ShotOnWhat. As far as 16mm goes, I love it! One of my favorite movies, Import/Export, by Ulrich Seidl, was shot on 16mm. 

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JVC's Variable Scan Mapping sets itself to 80% for MFT lenses but in my experience you can set it to 90% with most of them.

I wouldn't expect an LS300 replacement from them at this show as they seem to be pushing the range above and below it.

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3 minutes ago, mercer said:

True but irrelevant to the original point that I wouldn’t be surprised if the new pocket had an EF Mount.

Then its sensor would need to be larger than 1". - Well anyway, if the last picture is not a fake, then the camera has an MFT mount again. BM is an official member of the MFT standards consortium, btw.

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Actual cinema cameras aren't exactly going for the pocket thing. They go with the proven concept of shooting S35... the gold standard if you will and the industry has better things to do than fiddle around with mount adapters. We (enthusiasts, prosumers, independent filmmakers) on the other hand... don't mind if it means we get better flexibility out of it. Especially now a lot of folks in that scene have been shooting with cameras like the GH2, G7, GH4 and GH5 and have quite the lens collection. The problem now is... where you go from there? Because going Blackmagic/Kinefinity et cetera is no step... it's a giant leap that hurts your pockets once you're done putting all of it together. Panasonic brought the GH5S. Z-Cam E2 at a price tag of 1999? This Blackmagic Pocket rocket 4K to follow along those lines? Makes sense to me. There's not a lot going on in the 1999-3499 completely done cinema package area.

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46 minutes ago, Cinegain said:

Actual cinema cameras aren't exactly going for the pocket thing.

See here: https://shotonwhat.com/cameras/blackmagic-pocket-cinema-camera

And compare that to much more successful cameras (in terms of sold units/market share) like the GH2 and GH4:

https://shotonwhat.com/cameras/panasonic-lumix-dmc-gh2-camera
https://shotonwhat.com/cameras/panasonic-lumix-dmc-gh4-camera

 

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You don't want a EF mount with a sensor smaller than Super 35, it makes finding good wide lenses difficult. It's why the original blackmagic camera started shipping with the MFT mount after everyone had issues with EF, finding a good wide was a huge issue (and why the Tokina 11-16 sold like wildfire for awhile) If the sensor is Super 35 or Larger EF would make sense, if it's smaller there is no logical reason for it.

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