Rikoshet Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Sage, I'm interested in your conversion luts, just a question: since a file in vlog it's basically the same between cameras, can I use this luts with gh4 vlog 8bit? Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sage Posted March 28, 2018 Author Share Posted March 28, 2018 6 hours ago, Tergelet said: I will definitely try this in the future. Great work! Thank you Tergelet! 6 hours ago, dxotic said: Great! looking forward to the luma grading pdf. you can send me an advance copy if you like Just walking around and shooting what i see in varying light sources to see how the LUT behaves Feel free to share what you find! Interesting note - V2 will have exposure mapped in LogC a little differently. For matching the Alexa precisely, you will be able to set identical settings (spare custom WB). Usable DR is maximized, and I'm exploring the mapping of Main/Soft, which will have lower contrast by extension 3 minutes ago, Rikoshet said: Sage, I'm interested in your conversion luts, just a question: since a file in vlog it's basically the same between cameras, can I use this luts with gh4 vlog 8bit? Thank you! Yes, it will improve GH4 VLog; I want to specifically measure the GH4 for the purpose, if I can get a hold of one. The standard 8 bit VLog concerns apply, but there may be an interesting development involving 8 bit soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sage Posted March 28, 2018 Author Share Posted March 28, 2018 18 hours ago, Neufeldt said: Just want to say the LUTs are great. It's interesting how different GHa is from the GHaLogC-ARRIAlexaLogCRec709 pairing. Thanks Neufeldt, I appreciate that I intend to democratize the very best cinematic color; it wasn't ready for me when I was getting started. Arri's Rec709 falls short; likewise Varicam etc Paul Leeming's raison d'être is neutrality. That's definitely a good way to go dxotic 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sage Posted March 28, 2018 Author Share Posted March 28, 2018 Check it out: New LogC Tungsten New GHa Tungsten ________________________ VLog + Varicam 35 Lut deezid 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deezid Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 36 minutes ago, Sage said: Check it out: New LogC Tungsten New GHa Tungsten ________________________ VLog + Varicam 35 Lut Looks good! Can't wait to try it out. Sage 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majoraxis Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 That's quite a difference between the Varicam 35 Lut and New GHa Tungsten Lut. The GHa Tungsten Lut looks great! Sage 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tihon84 Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 On 29.03.2018 at 2:29 AM, Sage said: Check it out: New LogC Tungsten New GHa Tungsten ________________________ VLog + Varicam 35 Lut Hi, how can i get this new versions? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sage Posted April 1, 2018 Author Share Posted April 1, 2018 3 hours ago, tihon84 said: Hi, how can i get this new versions? Thanks Soon; I have a lot of things to work on first. You'll be hearing from me (as previous) New GHa Daylight VLog + Varicam 35 Lut New GHa Daylight VLog + Varicam 35 Lut anonim, dxotic, deezid and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pewwinck Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 Thumbs up @Sage Sage 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sage Posted April 5, 2018 Author Share Posted April 5, 2018 2 hours ago, Pewwinck said: Thumbs up @Sage Thanks Pewwinck! Here's the upcoming Daylight: dxotic, anonim, deezid and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Ranger Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 When can we expect to be able to get this new updates? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sage Posted April 5, 2018 Author Share Posted April 5, 2018 6 hours ago, Wild Ranger said: When can we expect to be able to get this new updates? Soon; there's a lot involved with this one JeremyDulac and dxotic 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rikoshet Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 Hey Alex! Bough both your conversions, experimenting right now! Immediately have a question: when editing I/all we have a lot of cuts, often from different cams, so all is mixed in timeline. Applying 2 instances of Lumetri on each clip and then applying 2-3 conversion luts is cumbersome. It would be simple for me applying all luts an then export a single lut from lumetri, resulting lut I could apply on rest of clips. Is this technically correct ot it's better to follow your pdf guide? BTW, can you please provide a version of guide in text/pdf format instead of image/pdf? I'd like to copy some important moments into a text document? Also, would like to see some color graded "gh5-alexa" footage with achieved cinematic look! Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sage Posted April 20, 2018 Author Share Posted April 20, 2018 Hey @Rikoshet You'll only need one instance of Lumetri - the 'Basic Correction' section can accept the [PRE] technical conversions, and the 'Creative' section can accept the GHa conversions. Then, in the Basic Correction section, any needed white balance adjustment may be made, which will stack inbetween the [PRE] and GHa conversions. You may then right click on Lumetri, and 'Save Preset' for use later (w/ a title like "8-bit Daylight (Soft)", etc.) This will save the step of having to load two separate files. A lumetri effect may be copied and pasted to multiple clips, and an 'Adjustment Layer' can be stretched over several clips in Premiere to apply a single instance of Lumetri to all underneath it for a one-light grade. I'm about to revisit the PDF. A lot is about to change. I've been revisiting the 8-bit Emotion II, updating it to the new color science: PREVIOUS NEW PREVIOUS NEW PREVIOUS NEW dxotic and buggz 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buggz Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 Wow, the new ones look great! Sage 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tihon84 Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 15 hours ago, buggz said: Wow, the new ones look great! Yep, now it looks well exposed and as i can see the colors are better and skin tones looks more correct and bright. Great update Sage 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dxotic Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 Can't wait to get my hands on this Sage and any updated info for grading. Sage 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sage Posted April 25, 2018 Author Share Posted April 25, 2018 @dxotic One neat thing that I geek out over, is that it is so smooth - PREVIOUS NEW And the PREs are so much more accurate (8 bit/Premiere/photo styles) - PREVIOUS NEW - 8 bit Premiere PRE at work JeremyDulac, Jonesy Jones, deezid and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majoraxis Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 It looks fantastic - I can't wait for the official release! I'm looking forward to knowing the recommend shooting format(s). Is it best to record in HLG or V-Log or Natural or other? With an emphasis on getting the best 4k 60p internal recording quality for color grading in Resolve. And also for 6k anamorphic. Thanks! Sage 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sage Posted April 25, 2018 Author Share Posted April 25, 2018 16 minutes ago, majoraxis said: It looks fantastic - I can't wait for the official release! I'm looking forward to knowing the recommend shooting format(s). Is it best to record in HLG or V-Log or Natural or other? With an emphasis on getting the best 4k 60p internal recording quality for color grading in Resolve. And also for 6k anamorphic. Thanks! The path recommended for utmost fidelity is: VLog in Resolve Those using HLG in Premiere (for example) will not be at a major loss - the difference from that optimal condition is slightly less rolloff accuracy and slightly less smooth. For 4k 60p Vlog in Resolve, no PRE will be needed (likewise 10 bit VLog, except ProRes). Subsequent paths in order of fidelity: VLog (10bit) in Premiere VLog (8bit) in Premiere HLG in Resolve *** in Resolve HLG in Premiere *** in Premiere In Premiere, avoid the Luma curve of Lumetri. Rather use the lift/gamma/gain wheels, or RGB curves (in Obsolete) deezid and dxotic 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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