MaxAperture Films Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Hey Luke, any chance you can test out the 4K time lapse mode? I'm curious as to whether the video file can now be saved as 10 bit 4:2:2. That feature alone would save me a ton of work in post. Specifically the 2 fps speed in 4K creative mode/variable frame rate (conformed to 24P playback). Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agachart Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 On 1/6/2017 at 12:31 AM, jonpais said: I will say again, at the risk of repeating myself a million times: I have also owned five Panasonic cameras; they are supremely video-centric, and even the lowly G7 is capable of being used in productions: Panasonic could have released these upgrades incrementally over a period of years; that they packed so much into a camera at this price point is nothing short of miraculous: but codecs and bits aside, the color science of the GH5 is still unmistakably Panasonic. And since I can still dream, my ideal camera would be a GH5 with something like the X Trans sensor. Expand you 're right panny modified new cfa from 2*2 to 6*6 that color may like x-trans sensor!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronFilm Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 On 1/5/2017 at 5:50 PM, Neumann Films said: We were going to do one making fun of RED at one point. GREEN Digital Cinema. Created a fake Facebook page and everything: https://www.facebook.com/greenshredder/?fref=ts Expand Dooooooooooo it!!! :-D The lawyers would LOVE YOU!!! ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neumann Films Posted January 6, 2017 Author Share Posted January 6, 2017 On 1/6/2017 at 5:09 AM, IronFilm said: Dooooooooooo it!!! :-D The lawyers would LOVE YOU!!! ;-) Expand We held off once we actually bought and owned a RED and liked it and the company...lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liork Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Hi Neumann, could you check please what is the bit rate of the H.265 6K Photo file? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neumann Films Posted January 6, 2017 Author Share Posted January 6, 2017 On 1/6/2017 at 6:22 AM, liork said: Hi Neumann, could you check please what is the bit rate of the H.265 6K Photo file? Expand Keep in mind it will likely change and the feature isn't even properly working (I get a green screen in all software). 244Mbps in 6K/4:3/30p. As of right now. On 1/6/2017 at 2:27 AM, MaxAperture Films said: Hey Luke, any chance you can test out the 4K time lapse mode? I'm curious as to whether the video file can now be saved as 10 bit 4:2:2. That feature alone would save me a ton of work in post. Specifically the 2 fps speed in 4K creative mode/variable frame rate (conformed to 24P playback). Thanks. Expand No VFR in any of the 10bit options on the build that I'm working with. Seems like the lower ones should be able to be added. Makes sense to me, I will make a feature request. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axel Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 On the playback issue: FCP X 10.3.1 on newest, maxed-out iMac plays back all files at full quality. Noticed some stuttering, conformed the framerates using automatic speed, they seemingly ran smoothly, still so with V-Lut and one instance of CC. Checked stop playback when frame skipping occurs (or so, german FCP X), and playback did stop a second or so into the file. XML'd to Resolve: files are missing! Transcoded everything to ProRes then. As expected, no issues then. But note that some stuttering will be normal for files that are thrown into a *desktop project" with differing framerates. On the colors: I am not very enthusiastic about the DR (knowing A7Rii, FS7 and BM footage). Skin looks decent, but the green of the trees doesn't look right. What I would like to see in further shots by Neumann: not V-log, but just a quick comparison of all standard picture profiles (or however Pana calls them). Please make sure sharpness and saturation are dialed down somewhat, disable iDyn and iRes and all that stuff. Sorry, I don't know the right names, it's been a long time since my GH2 experiences. With Sony I'd rather go with "Cine4" (a little flat, looking like C100's C-log) to avoid a lot of problems with weird colors, noise or banding (the latter of course not to be expected in a 10-bit clip). Thanks for the clips! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neumann Films Posted January 6, 2017 Author Share Posted January 6, 2017 On 1/6/2017 at 7:27 AM, Axel said: On the playback issue: FCP X 10.3.1 on newest, maxed-out iMac plays back all files at full quality. Noticed some stuttering, conformed the framerates using automatic speed, they seemingly ran smoothly, still so with V-Lut and one instance of CC. Checked stop playback when frame skipping occurs (or so, german FCP X), and playback did stop a second or so into the file. XML'd to Resolve: files are missing! Transcoded everything to ProRes then. As expected, no issues then. But note that some stuttering will be normal for files that are thrown into a *desktop project" with differing framerates. On the colors: I am not very enthusiastic about the DR (knowing A7Rii, FS7 and BM footage). Skin looks decent, but the green of the trees doesn't look right. What I would like to see in further shots by Neumann: not V-log, but just a quick comparison of all standard picture profiles (or however Pana calls them). Please make sure sharpness and saturation are dialed down somewhat, disable iDyn and iRes and all that stuff. Sorry, I don't know the right names, it's been a long time since my GH2 experiences. With Sony I'd rather go with "Cine4" (a little flat, looking like C100's C-log) to avoid a lot of problems with weird colors, noise or banding (the latter of course not to be expected in a 10-bit clip). Thanks for the clips! Expand I think I'm done with tests at this point. We might do something in anamorphic but that will probably be it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axel Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 On 1/6/2017 at 7:31 AM, Neumann Films said: I think I'm done with tests at this point. Expand Too bad. Does anybody know about such a comparison so far? Like this: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liork Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 On 1/6/2017 at 7:24 AM, Neumann Films said: Keep in mind it will likely change and the feature isn't even properly working (I get a green screen in all software). 244Mbps in 6K/4:3/30p. As of right now. Expand Thank you, not bad at all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 After effects works well for me ..... make sure your project is set to 16 bit. Was impressed by the highlight/shadow recovery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonpais Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 On 1/6/2017 at 4:50 AM, agachart said: you 're right panny modified new cfa from 2*2 to 6*6 that color may like x-trans sensor!!! Expand You're saying the Panasonic is going to give us color science comparable to Fuji? I read in the Wall Street Journal this morning that McDonalds is going to open a bunch of franchises selling kobe beef burgers, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 On 1/6/2017 at 7:24 AM, Neumann Films said: 244Mbps in 6K/4:3/30p. Expand So, not 2:1 6000x3000? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zerocool22 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Hey Luke, How do you like the GH5 compared to the A7S II, does it replace the A7SII (except low light, full frame and more DR)? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonpais Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 On 1/6/2017 at 7:39 AM, Axel said: Too bad. Does anybody know about such a comparison so far? Like this: Expand But Panasonic doesn't have film simulations... Fuji was the first Japanese producer of photographic film, while Panasonic started out as a maker of lamp sockets and bicycle lamps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeys Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 On 1/5/2017 at 12:42 AM, Neumann Films said: Version 1...lol. Well, now I'm excited to see what dual IS actually looks like. On screen I had dual IS notifications the whole time? Seemed more stable than lenses that clearly had no IS. I am pretty sure V1 had working IS. Expand That's good to know - I don't have to replace my lenses. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neumann Films Posted January 6, 2017 Author Share Posted January 6, 2017 On 1/6/2017 at 10:13 AM, zerocool22 said: Hey Luke, How do you like the GH5 compared to the A7S II, does it replace the A7SII (except low light, full frame and more DR)? Thanks! Expand I have never used the a7s 2, so I couldn't say one way or another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxAperture Films Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 On 1/6/2017 at 7:24 AM, Neumann Films said: No VFR in any of the 10bit options on the build that I'm working with. Seems like the lower ones should be able to be added. Makes sense to me, I will make a feature request. Expand Thanks Luke! And huge props to Panasonic for going "all-in" with this cam and even encouraging more feature requests... they've earned my $$ for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesku Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 On 1/5/2017 at 9:17 PM, Neumann Films said: Mine starts at ISO 400, 200 isn't even an option. Expand Are you sure GH5 has no iso200 for video? Iso400 would be too noisy and very odd too. Is the GH5 showing all exposure values when using video modes A,S,P and auto iso. Can you check? it takes few seconds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rndmtsk Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 On 1/6/2017 at 6:48 PM, Vesku said: Are you sure GH5 has no iso200 for video? Iso400 would be too noisy and very odd too. Is the GH5 showing all exposure values when using video modes A,S,P and auto iso. Can you check? it takes few seconds. Expand This is probably just the base ISO for V-Log Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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