MrSMW

Awful in my line of work as any change/changes mid scene is near impossible to overcome in post. Just a headache.
But otherwise yes, fixed WB of ‘5500’ works nicely and is my go to (not 5600) as it’s the recommendation for the conversion LUT I use.
I also meant 4500 indoors not 4000, so 4500 and 5500 are my two programmed default options.

Awful in my line of work as any change/changes mid scene is near impossible to overcome in post. Just a headache.
But otherwise yes, fixed WB of ‘5500’ works nicely and is my go to (not 5600) as it’s the recommendation for the conversion LUT I use.
I also meant 4500 indoors not 4000, so 4500 and 5500 are my two programmed default options.

Being a hybrid wedding/event shooter, I don’t have the time to be setting WB every single scene so it’s 5600 outdoor and 4000 in and adjust in post if needs be.
Otherwise indeed trying to get as much SOOC internally as possible.
Works for me.
I shoot log these days/this last year, but no issues with shooting a flat profile and do so for all low light/after dark stuff.

Probably…
Back in the day, rangefinders for film photography were the thing.
To some they still are, but perhaps these days in a digital format such as the Leica M8/9/10/11, Q2/3 and the rangefinderesque Fuji X Pro-1/2/3 and X100 line.
In recent years, they have become video capable, often to the same level as their mirrorless ‘SLR’ style siblings, but are they the best tool for the job?
Probably not but will either work in a pinch or can be made to work…
I’ve had a string of the Fuji X cameras from the Pro1 to the Pro2 and all of the X100 cameras except the the V, ie, all of them except their most recent incarnations which are the most video capable.
I personally would not choose any of them for video work regardless of capability because unless rigged out, they don’t work very well ergonomically for video compared with their siblings, ie, I’d take an XH2 over an X100V as a video tool every time.
For stills though, either with a built in pancake or interchangeable compact lens system such as the X Pro line or the Nikon Zf, they are nice to use.
For stills, in my career, the two cameras I have enjoyed the most have been the X Pro1 and X Pro2, the second version fixing the somewhat tardy AF issues of the first version.
I never went to the 3 because though I would have welcomed a tilt screen, the one they went for was not for me.
So the Zf is a return to that style of shooting (stills) for me and with a fixed lens approach as another…and perhaps my favourite ever stills camera, was the original X100.
The 35mm focal length was/is pretty good, but 40 is better still. 12mp back in the day was OK, but 24/25 is far better. And it has excellent AF and all round operating speed including start up from cold. And then there is fantastic class leading IBIS and almost the same level of video capability as my S5ii.
Almost because it doesn’t allow for 6k shooting though technically could.
But would it make a decent or even good video camera?
Actually yes, for my needs at least and this is something I will be exploring in 2024.
In standard format, it’s ergonomically shit for holding out in front of you style video, but the Smallrig grip improves things considerably.
I don’t think it’s the kind of body to be using bigger zooms or longer lenses on, but I will be interested to see how it handles with my (adapted) Tamron 70-180mm when it turns up, but again, more from a stills perspective.
But as a pure video camera? Probably not. For one thing, it doesn’t really offer anything you’d want to shoot externally so whilst you could add a cage, handle, monitor etc, why would you? That would possibly be a case of forcing a tool to work better for you than it otherwise might, but more suited tools exist in the first place.
But compared with the Z6ii, it’s moved the game on in the AF and IBIS department so it sits between it and the Z8. Kind of. At least capability-wise, though not ergonomically.
I’m looking forward to using mine more. I never saw it coming but when it was announced ‘out of the blue’, knew instantly it would be a good fit for me.
There’s quite a bit of hype, both positive and negative, around it right now, but that kind of thing doesn’t influence me, - it either works for me or does not and for me, it’s the 2023/2024 version of the Fuji X100 I always wanted.
Criticisms so far…
Only one and that is I would rather it had a tilt screen than a flip out but understand why they probably went this route, - to try and please 2 markets.
Market 1 being the casual video shooter/content creator and Market 2 being ‘The Photographer’ who can turn and close the screen and use the viewfinder only and never use the video function.
It’s not for everyone, but it is for me.
Which topic is this again? Z8 I think… 🤔😉
Still sitting on my fence over that one…
It depends on if Nikon pop out a Z6iii any time soon and how that 70-180 works on my Smallrig gripped Zf, but otherwise leaning back towards the Z9 for the following reasons in no specific order:
A. It’s arguably more ‘pro’.
B. It’s undeniably ergonomically better and a better larger lens platform.
C. Better cooling.
D. Longer battery life.
E. Twin CF Express card slots.
The negative is it costs more than the Z8, is heavier and less discrete, but these compromises do not outweigh the sum total of A-E for me.

My parents still believe Great Britain has colonies and rules the world…

Many in France believe that too.

@Django & @MrSMW - I can't recommend the Z9 high enough. I've had mine for over a week, and I have zero regrets and am just loving it. 

My parents still believe Great Britain has colonies and rules the world…

From what I’ve seen I think the Z8 and Z9 have the best image and colour separation of all the mirrorlerss cameras, there is something special going on there, the R5c just looks like all the other Canon mirrorless, nice image but lacking a bit in DR and slightly noisier. The sensor tech just seems a bit less cutting edge. Canon have always struggled transferring the DR from still into video on their mirrorless cameras. A real shame as it is there in the rest of the Cinema line from the C70 upwards
For me with the IBIS too the Nikon’s are the clear winner. Their lenses also look like they are better suited to video especially if you use AF being almost silent. I always had trouble finding fast affordable  Canon lenses that weren’t noisy  

The FX30 is a very fine camera in it’s own right but would be a sideways…or even backwards move for me, so no, not going to happen.

Ditto all of the ☝️
Some folks read too many YouTube comments or even opinions from certain channels that are often based on diddly squat.
Never had banding or AF issues with my S5ii. For video, it’s a f**king excellent piece of kit and way above most folks needs or skills.
And for the price, silly value.

Probably…
Back in the day, rangefinders for film photography were the thing.
To some they still are, but perhaps these days in a digital format such as the Leica M8/9/10/11, Q2/3 and the rangefinderesque Fuji X Pro-1/2/3 and X100 line.
In recent years, they have become video capable, often to the same level as their mirrorless ‘SLR’ style siblings, but are they the best tool for the job?
Probably not but will either work in a pinch or can be made to work…
I’ve had a string of the Fuji X cameras from the Pro1 to the Pro2 and all of the X100 cameras except the the V, ie, all of them except their most recent incarnations which are the most video capable.
I personally would not choose any of them for video work regardless of capability because unless rigged out, they don’t work very well ergonomically for video compared with their siblings, ie, I’d take an XH2 over an X100V as a video tool every time.
For stills though, either with a built in pancake or interchangeable compact lens system such as the X Pro line or the Nikon Zf, they are nice to use.
For stills, in my career, the two cameras I have enjoyed the most have been the X Pro1 and X Pro2, the second version fixing the somewhat tardy AF issues of the first version.
I never went to the 3 because though I would have welcomed a tilt screen, the one they went for was not for me.
So the Zf is a return to that style of shooting (stills) for me and with a fixed lens approach as another…and perhaps my favourite ever stills camera, was the original X100.
The 35mm focal length was/is pretty good, but 40 is better still. 12mp back in the day was OK, but 24/25 is far better. And it has excellent AF and all round operating speed including start up from cold. And then there is fantastic class leading IBIS and almost the same level of video capability as my S5ii.
Almost because it doesn’t allow for 6k shooting though technically could.
But would it make a decent or even good video camera?
Actually yes, for my needs at least and this is something I will be exploring in 2024.
In standard format, it’s ergonomically shit for holding out in front of you style video, but the Smallrig grip improves things considerably.
I don’t think it’s the kind of body to be using bigger zooms or longer lenses on, but I will be interested to see how it handles with my (adapted) Tamron 70-180mm when it turns up, but again, more from a stills perspective.
But as a pure video camera? Probably not. For one thing, it doesn’t really offer anything you’d want to shoot externally so whilst you could add a cage, handle, monitor etc, why would you? That would possibly be a case of forcing a tool to work better for you than it otherwise might, but more suited tools exist in the first place.
But compared with the Z6ii, it’s moved the game on in the AF and IBIS department so it sits between it and the Z8. Kind of. At least capability-wise, though not ergonomically.
I’m looking forward to using mine more. I never saw it coming but when it was announced ‘out of the blue’, knew instantly it would be a good fit for me.
There’s quite a bit of hype, both positive and negative, around it right now, but that kind of thing doesn’t influence me, - it either works for me or does not and for me, it’s the 2023/2024 version of the Fuji X100 I always wanted.
Criticisms so far…
Only one and that is I would rather it had a tilt screen than a flip out but understand why they probably went this route, - to try and please 2 markets.
Market 1 being the casual video shooter/content creator and Market 2 being ‘The Photographer’ who can turn and close the screen and use the viewfinder only and never use the video function.
It’s not for everyone, but it is for me.
Which topic is this again? Z8 I think… 🤔😉
Still sitting on my fence over that one…
It depends on if Nikon pop out a Z6iii any time soon and how that 70-180 works on my Smallrig gripped Zf, but otherwise leaning back towards the Z9 for the following reasons in no specific order:
A. It’s arguably more ‘pro’.
B. It’s undeniably ergonomically better and a better larger lens platform.
C. Better cooling.
D. Longer battery life.
E. Twin CF Express card slots.
The negative is it costs more than the Z8, is heavier and less discrete, but these compromises do not outweigh the sum total of A-E for me.

Ditto all of the ☝️
Some folks read too many YouTube comments or even opinions from certain channels that are often based on diddly squat.
Never had banding or AF issues with my S5ii. For video, it’s a f**king excellent piece of kit and way above most folks needs or skills.
And for the price, silly value.

1. This is a problem. I imagine they’ll fix it as it wasn’t a problem on the S5 (the S5 would stick to one individual but it’d be sheer luck if they were in focus).
2. Never seen banding but I don’t pixel peep.
3. It works quite well. Not quite as good as Sony or Canon from what I’ve seen

Concise summary of so much rumor regardless of brand when it comes to rumors.
I still look occasionally myself though… 🤪

I just know that at some point, maybe next year, maybe the year after, I am going to get some hipster stood next to granny with her iPad, shooting one of these things…

Sounds too good to be true. That would otherwise be ridiculous value...but it doesn't ring true just based on price.
IBIS has more axis of stabilisation than lens OIS, but yes, you don't need lens stab if you have it in the body...though if both have it and they play nicely together, better still.
Stabilisation is a whole topic on it's own though as in what do you want it to be?
Locked off almost tripod like? Fuji is good at this.
Wave it around like a gimbal? Olympus or latest Nikon very good.
But back on price, you could get an OG S5 within the budget, but not a S5ii with a lens.

I just know that at some point, maybe next year, maybe the year after, I am going to get some hipster stood next to granny with her iPad, shooting one of these things…

I looked at doing this partly because I liked the idea of this tiny micro camera but also just because ☝️

I looked at doing this partly because I liked the idea of this tiny micro camera but also just because ☝️

A VERY strong contender for me and could have been an outright winner for me, except for one thing, and that is I am taking the MarkusPix 'one and done' approach and including a lens.
There isn't a single lens in the L Mount line up that swings it for me. If I had to pick just one, it would be the Sigma 28-70mm f2.8 to pair it with, but then at 24mp, too short for my needs.
But purely as a camera body, for stills and video, I'd choose it over anything and everything else.

Better this than being the old lady front and centre capturing everything with her iPad.

Better this than being the old lady front and centre capturing everything with her iPad.

Better this than being the old lady front and centre capturing everything with her iPad.

I think I'm floating dangerously in the middle between those two groups, straddling both worlds.