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I think it’s also important to stress that 1 slot doesn’t necessarily equal 1 slot.
1 XQD is order of magnitude more reliable than 1 SD.
The discussion right now is as if the Nikon Z and Canon R were equals with their 1 slot but they’re not at all. 
I also feel the lens line up Nikon starts with is much more practical and promising than Canons. 
Rather than the traditional high/low - a cheap not so good but small 1.8 OR a great, large and expensive 1.4/1.2 Nikon seems to deliver a larger than usual 1.8, priced in the middle with absolutely top class optical performance and weather sealing. 
I always preferred the way Leica did this. The Summilux aren’t necessarily better than the Summicron. They’re just faster and subsequently more expensive.
The new Canon RF 35mm isn’t an L lens. It’s the same old ‘sell inferior slower glass at lower price’. 
In contrast, the 35mm 1.8 S is S-line, which is th Z counterpart to L lenses. It’s larger than a typical 35mm 1.8 suggesting more lenses and higher optical performance. It’s weather sealed.
But it’s not huge and heavy, I’d say it’s a good compromise. Both price wise and size wise. Compare with a Sony 35mm f1.4.
Same goes for the 24-70 f4 S. rumour has it it’s as sharp or better than the 24-70 f2.8 G Nikkor. Sure a 24-105 has a longer range but it’s bigger and heavier and importantly isn’t consistent with 2.8 zooms. Many have two zooms. A slower f4 is nice to have for travel and personal use. I for one am pretty happy about consistency, that way my visualisation isn’t fucked with. 
Nikons strategy doesn’t look as sexy on paper as Canons. But looks much much more intelligent to me. Like, who really wants to carry that f2 zoom? Who really wants to carry that 1.2 or spend over two grand on it? I sure do not. I think Nikon’s 0.95 is equally ridiculous - it’s to make headlines. Those fast lenses sell systems. They make people feel excited. They entertain a fantasy. The same reasons car makers are involved in racing. 
I think, I hope, that Nikon has a sleeper hit in its 24-70 f4 and it’s two f1.8 primes. 
Photography is coming home.

I think it’s also important to stress that 1 slot doesn’t necessarily equal 1 slot.
1 XQD is order of magnitude more reliable than 1 SD.
The discussion right now is as if the Nikon Z and Canon R were equals with their 1 slot but they’re not at all. 
I also feel the lens line up Nikon starts with is much more practical and promising than Canons. 
Rather than the traditional high/low - a cheap not so good but small 1.8 OR a great, large and expensive 1.4/1.2 Nikon seems to deliver a larger than usual 1.8, priced in the middle with absolutely top class optical performance and weather sealing. 
I always preferred the way Leica did this. The Summilux aren’t necessarily better than the Summicron. They’re just faster and subsequently more expensive.
The new Canon RF 35mm isn’t an L lens. It’s the same old ‘sell inferior slower glass at lower price’. 
In contrast, the 35mm 1.8 S is S-line, which is th Z counterpart to L lenses. It’s larger than a typical 35mm 1.8 suggesting more lenses and higher optical performance. It’s weather sealed.
But it’s not huge and heavy, I’d say it’s a good compromise. Both price wise and size wise. Compare with a Sony 35mm f1.4.
Same goes for the 24-70 f4 S. rumour has it it’s as sharp or better than the 24-70 f2.8 G Nikkor. Sure a 24-105 has a longer range but it’s bigger and heavier and importantly isn’t consistent with 2.8 zooms. Many have two zooms. A slower f4 is nice to have for travel and personal use. I for one am pretty happy about consistency, that way my visualisation isn’t fucked with. 
Nikons strategy doesn’t look as sexy on paper as Canons. But looks much much more intelligent to me. Like, who really wants to carry that f2 zoom? Who really wants to carry that 1.2 or spend over two grand on it? I sure do not. I think Nikon’s 0.95 is equally ridiculous - it’s to make headlines. Those fast lenses sell systems. They make people feel excited. They entertain a fantasy. The same reasons car makers are involved in racing. 
I think, I hope, that Nikon has a sleeper hit in its 24-70 f4 and it’s two f1.8 primes. 
Photography is coming home.

Had it been an APSC camera the lenses would have been smaller and cheaper. The camera would have been smaller and cheaper too. I’m sure the video from the R looks fantastic but it doesn’t make sense as a hybrid camera to have that kind of crop. I mostly take stills and I always try to learn to visualise my focal lengths before raising the camera. That’s near impossible if my 50mm is no longer a 50mm when I switch to video. If I would buy the R I would use it as a 1080p camera only, for full sensor read out. 

Had it been an APSC camera the lenses would have been smaller and cheaper. The camera would have been smaller and cheaper too. I’m sure the video from the R looks fantastic but it doesn’t make sense as a hybrid camera to have that kind of crop. I mostly take stills and I always try to learn to visualise my focal lengths before raising the camera. That’s near impossible if my 50mm is no longer a 50mm when I switch to video. If I would buy the R I would use it as a 1080p camera only, for full sensor read out. 

Sooooo judging from the 50 or so clips I’ve managed find showcasing the Nikon Z7 in video all I can see is a great image with brilliant autofocus, especially the face detection. And if you expose it correctly it almost looks like Kodachrome in motion.
Nikon USA has also confirmed the 4K internal bitrate to 144mbps, not 100 as previously reported.

They can invite anyone they want to their event but it seems they DID invite some Vloggers and reviewers to that Manchester event after all (posts by Cinema5d and CameraJabber on Youtube).
Seems to me they SHOULD have invited Andrew.     They didn't, so how he reacts is up to him.
I did want an original Pocket camera when it came out but I only really heard about it on this site first and then only a little elsewhere after that.     
BMD seems to have grown up as a company and now seems to be after a market far beyond where it started so maybe thinks it doesn't need the likes of Andrew Reid, I would suggest otherwise.
I would also suggest deleting the last twenty or thirty pages to this thread and starting again.      

Sometimes the most interesting and useful insights (like this one from Andrew) require traversing some difficult ground to get there. With this sort of reflection the preceding discomfort is almost always worth the effort. 
To explore Andrew's thoughts here a little further: perhaps in addition to being a rather poor 'facsimile' of life, it seems to me the internet becomes at times a powerful and distorting "amplifier" of people's emotional states, but mostly only of those frequencies that deal with anger, fear, rejection, resentment etc. I don't think anyone is immune from this effect, and I suspect the more invested in a community or issue, the more pronounced the effect.
I agree that the internet's amplifying effects can have far reaching ramifications, especially when taking into account that the responses are preserved in writing, and when multiplied across thousands and perhaps millions of people on any given issue. This must at least be part of the reason for the recent exacerbation in polarisation that we see in politics (uh oh - sorry to mention the "P" word).
But more to the point, perhaps it can help us to simply understand the sometimes difficult dynamics of communication from a human perspective, and especially of online communication where our brains lack the important cues given by real face-to-face interaction. Perhaps the lesson is that in understanding what is happening, it is easier not to put too much importance on the details of what is said, and to recognise that we are all basically the same in this regard. In acknowledging our nature as fragile humans it is far easier to be forgiving on ourselves and others for apparent transgressions, to allow some breathing space for reflection, and then to get back to the task at hand.
So Andrew, in regards to the camera in question, I think that if there are matters about its quality and usefulness you would like resolved, it would not surprise me at all if you do get your hands on it one way or another. And if and when you do, I'll look forwards to your insightful review of it.

Didn’t see any banding in that one either, and I’m not even buying the camera. Fucking bunch of whiny spec freaks in this thread. Like charbax who is extremely disappointed that the x-t3 doesn’t have EVERYTHING HE NEEDS.

Its a dude thing. What ever dudes are extra interested and nerdy about will show the same phenomenon. Cameras, watches, video games, guns, cars, beer and other stereotypical dude things. Girls like these things to of course, but they don't have to be dicks about it.

What you do doesn't amount to a piss in the snow as the world goes. I have never even watched a F ng thing you have shot for a living, and Gee I haven't lost a days sleep.

I've got to say that if someone had compared me to Fox News, the fucking Sun "newspaper" and the odious Piers Morgan as has happened in the past couple of days on here to Andrew Reid, I'd have already pulled the plug.
No one needs this shit over something as trivial as cameras, let alone having to pay for the upkeep of it.

OK man. You've made your point. You don't care who doesn't review it. You don't care if an EOSHD review exists at all. As long as you keep using my forum for free information on the camera, you're happy, and to hell with the site itself and the people working hard to provide it you.

Why should you get any? I never got anything from your articles. You're not a star here. Stop acting like you deserve praise. You don't want to put up with people disagreeing with you then don't start a forum. At least now I know that you apparently did this all to try to create a following for yourself. And I know that, should you ever talk about a Blackmagic product again, I'll know that you're speaking from the perspective of someone whose bitter that they wouldn't stroke your ego.

I just want to point out that JB and I got into a disagreement recently and, for all I know, he was probably including me in that post that you quoted in your blog and I didn't go on a "That no good John Brawley. Thinking he's so special. *huff puff*" rant. The guy gets @'d by idiots and non-idiots alike all day.

I can’t stand fully articulated screens. They’re pretty much a deal breaker for me. Reason? Takes much longer time to flip out and needs tuning. I need to twist the the thing out and the turn the screen to the right position.
With a simple flip out screen it’s one movement, just like opening the finder on my 500CM.
I can’t deal with vloggers who act as if their very specific selfie needs are a general thing. I almost never point the camera at myself and if I would the smartphone app is better since it now only shows me the cameras view but also offers remote exposure control.
The Fujifilm mechanism for the X-H1 is the best I’ve handled.
I also do not understand why many vloggers advocate for the full articulation in all the cameras. It’s not like I jump into GH5 threads and whine and scream about the screen and how I hope they remove it in the GH6 or “I will never buy one”. 
The speed and convenience of a flip out is superior and I bet benefit many more photographers than an articulated does. 2 moves vs 1. Adds up over time. 

Dear god, no more fully articulated screens. There is no need. Fuji already fixed it with the X-T100. Please save us from the plague that is the fully articulated screen!

Its a very "pro-camera-thing" to not have a PASM-dial. Personally Im not a fan. I prefer the dial like on a 5D over lets say a Nikon D5/500 or Canon 1DX.

top display does show camera mode icon when camera is off. you can check it out in the above video at 1:00.

Is the screen E-Ink?
I realised there is no PASM-dial and no marked controls like on Fujifilm. So does the screen show which mode the camera is on also when turned off? Otherwise very strange choice of ergonomics with just a power dial on the left. Nikon’s design with a mode dial there makes more sense to me.
I love the second control ring on the lens. Almost want to buy an R just for that. 

There are two Z7 videos in this guy's vimeo profile
https://vimeo.com/aldoriccifilmmaker
 
BTW, did you know that Active D-lighting is available in 4k? And Nikon marketing didn't bother to tell this to people. 

you mean like valid technical reasons that were covered ad nauseam 6 months ago?
1) it's a cinema camera, free floating ibis sensors tend to vibrate on car rigs, etc
2) heat dissipation is greatly improved with a non ibis sensor, helps the gh5s shoot cleaner at high isos
 

BREAKING X-T3 NEWS:
Fujifilm has decided to axe their upcoming X-T3 release because Jon is “not feeling it.”
MORE TO COME

Nikon Z looks the best out of the new offerings to me. I think the lenses are perfect too. 
The faster primes will be 2000$ or more I bet. How is it good to launch with lenses costing more than two grand?
F1.8 is fast enough. More importantly it keeps the lens somewhat small. 
As usual it seems many lust for bragging rights rather than practicality. 

Nikon Z looks the best out of the new offerings to me. I think the lenses are perfect too. 
The faster primes will be 2000$ or more I bet. How is it good to launch with lenses costing more than two grand?
F1.8 is fast enough. More importantly it keeps the lens somewhat small. 
As usual it seems many lust for bragging rights rather than practicality. 

Canons rf 35mm looks great.
Wish Nikon would have opened up with a 35mm f2.8 pancake for 500$. With that huge mount they’ll be able to make very good pancakes. 
Another cool option would be a 28mm (same FOV as smartphones we’re all getting used to). Make it f4 or even 5.6. Should make it inexpensive to design and produce. The AF would be blazing at f2.8 or f4. Perfect walk about lens the size of a body cap for 300$.
I’m sure they’ll show up at some point. 

Canons rf 35mm looks great.
Wish Nikon would have opened up with a 35mm f2.8 pancake for 500$. With that huge mount they’ll be able to make very good pancakes. 
Another cool option would be a 28mm (same FOV as smartphones we’re all getting used to). Make it f4 or even 5.6. Should make it inexpensive to design and produce. The AF would be blazing at f2.8 or f4. Perfect walk about lens the size of a body cap for 300$.
I’m sure they’ll show up at some point.