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I got quite nostalgic there seeing those vintage cars as I regularly went on Sunday trips to the beach in one of those as a child. Sadly, it was the Ford Anglia and not the E Type Jag !
Got to admire a man with the self assurance to still be able to dole out a suspicious "what on earth are you up to?" look at someone else when he's the one casually taking his Dalek for a walk.

 

I got quite nostalgic there seeing those vintage cars as I regularly went on Sunday trips to the beach in one of those as a child. Sadly, it was the Ford Anglia and not the E Type Jag !
Got to admire a man with the self assurance to still be able to dole out a suspicious "what on earth are you up to?" look at someone else when he's the one casually taking his Dalek for a walk.

 

Well, I haven't posted on EOSHD for ages, but when I saw this competition I thought that sounds fun. I dropped by on Bexhill-on-Sea on the South Coast yesterday on my way to somewhere else, and shot this footage over an hour or two.  No grading, straight out of camera. Manual settings (although fairly limited choice that's all I'll say). Edited on my laptop this evening. I bought the used camera on ebay for £133. I'm not sure if this is the sort of thing you're looking for Andrew.  As long as I don't come last.
 
 
 

I think logically it will be in that sort of price bracket and probably at the lower end of it.
It doesn't have an EVF and for stills shooters they will be expecting it to be at least as cheap as a full frame mirrorless that does like the Canon RP or even the Sony A7ii.
My concern would be that Sigma have set some optimistic prices for most of their other cameras at launch but those cameras were always going to be niche so hopefully the economies of scale with this one will change that.
I hope so anyway as I'm already doing the "Well, I've already got so many of the BP-51 batteries already that it almost doesn't make economical sense not to buy it" justifications to my better half
I might be in full on justification mode here but I'm pretty ambivalent about it recording RAW internally.
In the context of it being a modular camera anyway, using a Samsung T5 drive or whatever to record to is perfectly OK by me for a few reasons.
The first one is the capacity aspect and the second is actually about then just being able to attach that drive to the computer and start editing it instead of having to tit about with card readers. Those drives are also a bit more readily available if you're out and about than having to track down CFAst or ultra fast SD cards.
The other reason is a bit more philosophical in that I think the FP is a stills camera and it is a cine camera but its not necessarily a hybrid.
The modularity of it, to me at least, means its a sensor in a box and you dress it accordingly or not dress it in the case of when you want it to be a stills camera.
As a cine camera, I envisage it having a grip that incorporates more power but also has an SSD slot and you just attach that as one piece at which point what is internal and external recording is a bit of a grey area if you know what I mean. For example no one considers a RED to not record RAW "internally" but the reality is that it is doing it externally internally  and this would then be exactly the same.
I think that is why Sigma were making a big issue about opening it up to accessory manufacturers as a way of having much better integrated solutions than having to cobble together rigs.
To be honest, even if I was ostensibly taking it out to use as a stills camera and thought that I might want to record some raw video then its no hardship to have a T5 in a pocket should the need arise. 
In point of fact, if Sigma put in a file transfer page to move stills on to a T5 directly from the camera then I'd always have one with me anyway because, again, that whole card reader thing gets old for transfer particularly if you want to edit on a tablet.
See, I told you I was in full on justification mode  

Thats my boy !
Yeah if its only through HDMI then they can fuck off and take these shitty low capacity batteries with them.

Slashcam refer to the crop as being in the specification 
"The Sigma fp will be equipped with a 35mm Bayer sensor with 24.6 effective MP exposed at the back (so not with a Foveon sensor like the Sigma Quattro). In the technical data for the camera, however, a crop of 1.5 is mentioned, which will most likely be effective in film mode."
If you look at the specification, the crop (or Clop as its spelt in the document  ) is actually mentioned in reference to still formats rather than video.
So the crop reference is purely there is to indicate the resolution you will get in stills mode when you attach an existing L mount APS-C lens like the Leica ones or Sigma's own upcoming crop lenses.
I will have to resist all urges to refer to this as Jurgen mode when I attach an APS-C lens to it.

Slashcam refer to the crop as being in the specification 
"The Sigma fp will be equipped with a 35mm Bayer sensor with 24.6 effective MP exposed at the back (so not with a Foveon sensor like the Sigma Quattro). In the technical data for the camera, however, a crop of 1.5 is mentioned, which will most likely be effective in film mode."
If you look at the specification, the crop (or Clop as its spelt in the document  ) is actually mentioned in reference to still formats rather than video.
So the crop reference is purely there is to indicate the resolution you will get in stills mode when you attach an existing L mount APS-C lens like the Leica ones or Sigma's own upcoming crop lenses.
I will have to resist all urges to refer to this as Jurgen mode when I attach an APS-C lens to it.

Thats my boy !
Yeah if its only through HDMI then they can fuck off and take these shitty low capacity batteries with them.

Yeah, I didn't mean to imply it necessarily wasn't a DC connector separate to the battery, I literally just meant it looked like a dummy battery, and I assumed that little port on the side was for a dummy battery wire when I initially saw the camera.

A side by side comparison of them 
 

I dont think stills shooters will be interested in this camera. It has no mechanical shutter, a fairly slow sensor readout (as evident from a 1/30th flash sync speed) and therefore will be pretty much useless for photos of anything moving and longer focal lengths.

I think this is genuinely a HUGE step.
Rarely, do we get such a big leap out of nowhere like this. I've never felt like any other camera was anything other than just good, or expected in 2019. This is different. It's like having a full frame Pocket 4K with nobs on... from the future.
This image sits in the cinema world, not the video one.
I've shot some S1 10bit V-LOG with it this weekend. Here's a frame:


Compared to the X-T3 10bit F-LOG, dynamic range seems wider and shadows cleaner. Image is creamier, and less noisy at high ISOs. Base ISO is 640 in V-LOG, but extended ISO can go a bit lower.
Compared to A7 III S-LOG 2/3, the codec is far more robust, less banding and compression, it looks like ProRes.
I'll upload the original MOV files soon.

The firmware release notes are here but make no reference to it
https://pro.sony/en_KH/product-resources/software/1237493297313
At the risk of sounding blindingly obvious, is it possible that the menus only appear if you actually have a compatible recorder attached to it ?
Here is the full instructions for the Odyssey but the Sony end should be the same irrespective of what the recorder is so you can ignore the Odyssey part of the document.
https://vmi.tv/upload/pdf/FS700-Setup-Guide_v2_11_110-19Aug2014_1409134165.9053.pdf

Not sure how much use its going to be but here is the manual
 
https://pro.sony/s3/cms-static-content/uploadfile/26/1237493032226.pdf
And here is a step by step tutorial about using it with a 7Q 
 

Here is the new version:

I certainly think there should be some sort of "Dedication To The Spirit Of The Competition" award for someone who takes a hacksaw and pliers to the camera to try and improve it!

I certainly think there should be some sort of "Dedication To The Spirit Of The Competition" award for someone who takes a hacksaw and pliers to the camera to try and improve it!

I certainly think there should be some sort of "Dedication To The Spirit Of The Competition" award for someone who takes a hacksaw and pliers to the camera to try and improve it!

I certainly think there should be some sort of "Dedication To The Spirit Of The Competition" award for someone who takes a hacksaw and pliers to the camera to try and improve it!

Better quality version of the presentation here and the auto translate subtitles are reasonably decent.
There are a few audible "wow"s when the CinemaDNG recording is announced
Some more detail in there about the new lenses as well.
Camera stuff starts at 29:00
 

Not necessarily....
That's camera #1.  I'm still yet to shoot with camera #2.  Stay tuned.

Better quality version of the presentation here and the auto translate subtitles are reasonably decent.
There are a few audible "wow"s when the CinemaDNG recording is announced
Some more detail in there about the new lenses as well.
Camera stuff starts at 29:00
 

Better quality version of the presentation here and the auto translate subtitles are reasonably decent.
There are a few audible "wow"s when the CinemaDNG recording is announced
Some more detail in there about the new lenses as well.
Camera stuff starts at 29:00
 

Alternative facts... Priceless expression! LOL ; )
To you... to pay you a beer, paid by each one of us, is still too little considering the level of entertainment you've offered us in each one of your usual pearls : ) You'd end completely drunk, I must warn you, though! : -D
 
How many seconds? LMAO : -)

I'm hoping Jinnitech crack open the original 1.8 RedMag and find there is just a couple of cassette tapes in it so I can join in the lawsuit !
Nice work !