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Agreed, although the GX80/85 is currently discounted heavily and has in my opinion a better color than the G7 and has no time limitations (in the NTSC region) so that may be a good alternative.
Here are some shots made by the G7:
 
 

I have to agree. Unless you are shooting 4k nearly any camera made in the last 4 to 5 years can make a great movie if you are skilled I don't care what the price. And if you want 4k cheap buy a Panasonic G7. Its what's between your ears, not in front of them, that make good film making.

I have to agree. Unless you are shooting 4k nearly any camera made in the last 4 to 5 years can make a great movie if you are skilled I don't care what the price. And if you want 4k cheap buy a Panasonic G7. Its what's between your ears, not in front of them, that make good film making.

Used mine to record this video in Cuba. Never overheated ...
 
 

You offer a "in theoretical world base only on my personal opinion" without owning a 1Dx or a Gimbal.... I'm offering a real world opinion using the 1Dx II on a gimbal at 4k 60p using AF in a similar way that the OP is intending to use.
You are probably much more skilled and talented than me but the OP did try in real world your "theoretical" approach manual focusing on a gimbal and he was not so happy and I know why, because I'm been there and I don't want to return doing that way.
I'm really not sure why you cannot use AF with strobe, these are all done with the 1Dx, strobe and using AF (including long lenses, night shots, backlight, etc...:
 
 
 
 

The 1D X Mark II on a proper gimbal sounds like overkill when you can get an E-M1 II or wait for the GH5 and have 5 axis IBIS.

Don't, 
in your situation, I would just wait for the sony a9 or a7pro /whatever it's going to be call. Keep the workflow easy with sony and same color gamut - no need for massive files... Or even get the inspire 2 with the x5s 

5DmkIII ML RAW? Not exactly a cinema camera or ticking the boxes. But Andrii's stuff for example I just really like...
It seems to compliment your appreciation for what Canon's doing and that 'soft, clean, smooth cinematic feel to the image' in combination with the bitdepth you're after. Trading in some specs on paper for pleasant results.

The Atomos (Shogun series) will go to 30p 4K Sony raw to ProRes. CDNG to the same framerate & resolution is supposed to arrive via firmware update. I'm not aware of any monitor-less recorder other than the ridiculously expensive Sony one that can achieve the same with this camera.
I certainly regard the FS700's image (via the Atomos) as having a cinematic feel to it more reminiscent of the cinema cameras you mention. I viewed quite a few videos before buying it that made me feel this way and later, when I'm on my own laptop, I'll post a link to a handy listing of them. It has to be said, however, that the F3 has more of a reputation as the 'poor man's Alexa'.

Yeah, but it's not unreasonable to expect a level to be, well... level!

I have tried two units, and same issue.
It's not acceptable, and I will send them back.

You can judge by samples on the web but it depends on how they're shot, the lenses used and the variety of subjects.
Again the last video is almost all close-ups, with a shallow DOF and quite a long lens.
The grade is ok, light and colours decent.
EOS M5's video quality like 80D is a real mixture of times when it looks like acceptable 1080p and times then it just looks terrible and digital. Again... depends on the subject.
A mirrorless enthusiast camera costing over $1000 in 2016 should not still have moire & aliased 1080p, with no 4K option.

I actually liked that video. I like that soft Canon look. The problem, as of now, is there isn't enough samples and the ones that do exist are not that great... especially when you do a search of other cameras... I just found this video from the LX10 which I think looks great... and it's shot on a one inch sensor.
 

That first one didn't fuel my desire to get one...

Good one andrew ! :P 
It might seems like that - I'm not saying the m5 is a great video camera either, have it use though (For me it's going to be an expensive gopro kinda camera and for youtube). I will pair it with the 28mm macro IS only to start with. Very light combo with a standard FOV. Much lighter than my a7s with a zeiss 25mm. 
When I shop around for camera and lenses - I shop mainly for a usable sensor and try to pair it with a useful or favorite lens and stick with it. Weird, but I like it. Each sensor deserve it's own prime in my kit. 
The zeiss haven't left my a7s for the last 6 month witch ultimately will end up in front of a used nikon d750. Then I'm waiting for the laowa 15mm f2 FE to glue it in front of the a7s. 
I had a 400mm L on my 7d for wildlife witch I'm gonna switch to a 100L macro i think (3x crop mode raw video)
 
Each combo have a different usage in mind. Then I pick one or 2 combo depending of the shooting situation i'm planning. 
 
 
If I had 3200$ laying around - EM1 mk2 and the 12-100 would definitely be part of the kit

Are you pouring red wine on yours?
Except 90% of the weight of the camera bag will be the EF lenses.
Replacing 80D with a M5 body hardly makes any difference, especially as the 80D is not a particularly heavy camera to start with. It's not a 1D X!
It's not so much the lack of 4K, it's the moire that's the problem and how electronic the image looks.
Bang goes the renderless timeline and you have to re-render quite a bit when changing effects, trimming clip, re-timing, etc.
Olympus E-M1 II performance 5 axis IBIS is where it's at for handheld stabilisation.
That's true, good point.
It is going in the right direction, I'll give you that.
Now if they can move the memory card slot from the battery compartment to the side, that would be another good step towards a more serious mirrorless camera.

To me, like Andrew said, this is just a mirrorless 80D. I don't really see the added benefit of it being mirrorless much, unless they would've given it all the mirrorless bells 'n whistles. There aren't many lenses and the ones that are there aren't all super compact or anything. So... people really start using it like an 80D with an adapter and EF lenses... ok, so maybe all the features? Well, no 4K, no slowmo, no nothing. 'But it has stabilization!' lol, yeah digital one. Such a joke. And have you seen prices? It's not exactly cheap either. And the tilty flippy screen folds downwards... who the hell came up with that. So... they borrowed the design from the G5 X, but failed to copy the vari-angle screen. I just don't get it. Might as well get the 80D already? Ha, or better yet, pick out something different entirely. It's a few generations away from being an actual viable concept. It's only straight out of camera colors and dualpixel AF keeping Canon alive at this point, folks get told at stores to buy one because they can mess up the least themselves. Other cameras might actually require a little knowledge and skills, but then get the far superior results. Panasonic, Sony, heck even Samsung innovated a great deal by going mirrorless. With Canon... it's just more of the same. I just don't really get it and therefor I won't get it.

Well, the LX100 doesn't have a constant aperture throughout either, I still find it a lovely camera. I don't do zoom-ins/-outs. I just treat it as multiple focal lenghts in one... so for convenience sake of not having to swap lenses. Want to change the framing/focal length? Do like on an interchangeable lens camera. Stop recording, get something that has the focal length/field of view you're after, adjust settings accordingly to get the proper exposure and hit record again. Might be a little slower than just zooming in and knowing you're good, but I'm a slow kinda guy. No rush, no stress. Admittedly not very run 'n gun, though.
True story about the weight shift, you still have internal movement. Didn't understand why he would say that either to be honest.
This camera might be great for some... I've heard some voices of people who want to use it as a 2nd camera to a Panasonic GH and in certain conditions it might be a great pair. Great as an all-in-one travel cam too. But for filmmaking, I think this doesn't really cut it. It's roughly the same price as the G80 w/ 14-140mm, which I think would make a nicer option.

its slightly bonkers that a drone manufacturer is pushing the camera tech envelope more than the camera manufacturers.  You need certification to fly the inspire in australia, so it's off my radar for now, but if I had it it would be a no-brainer.  Next phantom could well have raw vid.  Helloooo... Nikon.... wakey wakey.....

Does the Inspire 2 have the GX8 sensor or the one on the new EMD-I Mark ii sensor?

This is a pretty cool update, I'll wait for the version that doesn't require me to walk around with a big goofy drone for handheld shots. They'd sell a LOT of the camera/osmo combos if you didn't need a drone for the recorder. I'd buy the 1" version with the gimbal in a heartbeat.
DJI, are you listening?

What I need is a Mavic design, even if it is bigger no pbm, with the camera of P3P. 
0 advantage of keeping the horrible P4 design. So inconvenient to carry around. 
i need portability since i travel all the time and hike and do all kind of extreme sports. But at the same time I do commercial shots. Having best IQ at smallest package is key. 

this is copied from dpreview, looks interesting!
"Visually similar to the original Phantom 4, the Phantom 4 Pro includes a camera with a 1" 20MP sensor with ‘almost’ 12 stops of dynamic range. Of particular interest, the Phantom 4 Pro has a mechanical shutter to eliminate rolling shutter effects from fast motion. It can record 4K/60p video at 100 mbps and offers H.265 video compression."
 
can i just order the camera on the P4 Pro? lol. looks like better than any 1" compact camera offerings on the market at the moment. 

This has better color than any non cine alta sony camera.

Impressive stuff. DJI is earning a special and unique place in the industry. Very disruptive products. Reminds me RED* but at DSLR prices. I am sold.
 
* without mention, there's no RED drone or RED Osmo...