MountneerMan

7 hours ago, ricardo_sousa11 said:

The luts would work with those settings, it seems like a lot of people still use them, including myself, so all my "gradings" would work on those settings. 

All luts would work with those settings alone, since its what I use the most. My new settings are just slithgly improved, they dont change the look much at all, just slightly less banding.

@ricardo_sousa11, How much do you think your LUT pack will cost? Also Any chance you can share your updated settings or are you gonna wait to sell with the lut pack?

@ricardo_sousa11, count me in for the purchase of your LUT pack as well.

Would each LUT have a different set of in camera settings? The reason I ask is I am going for a two week trip real soon and would love to know what setting is should use.

I was planning on using the setting you posted a while ago (Normal Gamma, sat -5, sharpness -10 and contrast -3, MB +9) I have been using these settings for a few weeks now and I really like these settings. The out of camera look is quite flat witch I like. are you still using these settings?

21 minutes ago, Blah Blah said:

I was thinking that if it would be possible to use an remote follow focus for the Samsung lenses. Like making one from a mouse scroller etc. But the system probably doesn't have a mouse driver and maybe it doesn't recognize usb devices.

The ideal set-up would be like a usb knob connected to a cellphone that is displaying as a remote viewfinder.

Does anyone know if something like this would be possible with the NX remote mod? https://github.com/mewlips/nx-remote-controller-mod

I have been thinking about this idea for quite a while now.

14 hours ago, kinoseed said:

Yes.. you are right. =/
I thought that info would be available, but I've never looked too much into the lens control as I use manual lenses almost all the time.

Unless someone smarter than I, figures out how to get the focus position translated to distance, there isn't much that can be done:
lensproperty.focus_position     -     with relation the to mm lens (zoom level)
 

Well i think we would need to "profile" each lens using a measuring tape and perhaps a telnet script that moves to the first focus position takes a photos moves to the the next position takes another photo then so on then pull all those photos into the computer and zoom and see the exact focus distance at each position then use that to build a look up table.

7 minutes ago, kinoseed said:

you mean give you the depth of field?  - it should be possible
good idea   - when I get some spare time, I'll look into it

Excellent thank you. I looked at some of OttoK's documentation on GitHub regarding controlling focus. I am not good at this stuff at all but it looks like the camera has no idea what the focus distance is in the real world it only knows the focus position so I assume the script would need to figure out what lens is attached and reference a table for that specific lens at that specific focal length to determine what the focus distance is and use that to calculate the values.

This is just my interpretation I don’t know if I am right. In either case let me know if there is anything I can help you with that is not too complicated ;P

Hahahaha I love the smell of trolls in the morning!

@Kinoseed, I have a suggestion for a script/hack. Would it be possible to calculate in camera the near and far focal distance and then display those two numbers at the bottom of the screen? These numbers would then automatically update as you change focus or aperture. This would be good for landscape work as well as using the camera on a gimbal.

This feature would obviously be toggled off and on in the menu.

Side note, thanks for your continued effort into making these cameras even more incredible. 

14 hours ago, Kisaha said:

No, I didn't missed your point, it just isn't  argument-proof; and yes, it does make sense, but in the wrong side of Sense-O-Meter.

IMO investing in a new body has the lowest ROI for improving your film making than any other peace of gear so IMO you are on the wrong side of the "Sense-O-Meter" 

14 hours ago, Kisaha said:

As I explained (with both my examples) the price you pay NOW, for two years of use is adequate, as all the rest of the options are all far more expensive, more than double the price, and when not (in case of the Canon M really) isn't technologically on par with the NX system.

14 hours ago, Kisaha said:

The NX1 is more than two years in the market, and there isn't a clearly better APS-C mirrorless camera, still. As I already explained, if someone bought the NX1 with the kit lens for 1499$ two years ago, he had the bargain of the century (almost).

Now, if you have already some NX stuff, maybe it is still a better deal to get some more NX stuff to make your life and production better. Also you have a two camera system for interviews, live coverage, sports, theater e.t.c and that doesn't mean that it won't have any value in two years time.

How much value has the a600 that one bought a year ago for 1000$, when in a few months, a6500 will be a few hundred more than that price? 

True story: http://www.katerelos.gr/product/43887/sony-alpha-6300-body.html?ref=3 This is the price a friend of mine bought his a6300 a month ago, and it is still the price. That is 1600$, with not even a front wheel to change the aperture/shutter speed and he had to sell a Canon 6D and a couple of lenses for that.

NX1 is a pro camera, and as such it is a whole different experience. The whole approach is pro, and with protected from the elements body.

You keep trying to compare the NX1 to other cameras currently on the market today witch is completely missing my point that regardless how good or bad other cameras are compared to samsung, the NX system is dead and eventually we will all need to pick a new one and switch and buy all new bodies and lenses and at that point in time I would mach rather have an extra $1500 in my pocket to spend then to have the an EVF, 120p and no crop 4k for 2 years. But that is my opinion and my advice he can take it or leave.

Maybe if the question was I currently have an cannon M series camera should I upgrade to the NX1 then your arguments and examples make sense.

14 hours ago, Kisaha said:

Also, it has EVF, much bigger battery, best ergonomics in class, better HDMI out, 120 fps in Full HD (best in class), faster SD writing speeds (and buffer), larger bit rates, mic in and headphones out, and a few other things I guess. Even one of the audio ports (not even both of them!) and some slight changes makes a different model for Panasonic and 2-3 hundred $ more! So yes, NX1 is really an upgrade, a big one.

Then, if you sell your 500 and get 400$ back, what other system you can construct consisting of 2 cameras (NX1 and NX500) a pro lens and another good prime (an S lens and the 30 or 45mm) for similar money? 

This is a completely different circumstance I am not at all suggesting he sell is NX500 and he clearly was not talking about buying a B camera(or in this case new A camera) he clearly said "Should I upgrade" and the answer IMO is no the features gained from going from an NX500 to an NX1 is not worth $1500. again that is my opinion he can take it or leave it I don't really care.

14 hours ago, Kisaha said:

What gear lasts for ever? Even Sachtler tripods costing multiple times 1500 haven't lasted forever, and even Sennheisser 416s have been to service for various reasons. do not even mention latest digital stuff, that I won't see them last not only 5 years, not forever (which is an incredible large amount of time to be consider as a reality)!

I didnt mean forever in a literal sense and I know you are smart enough to know that so why even bring this up.

@Kisaha, I think you missed my point regarding saving your money to buy more or better gear when you actually do change brands witch we all need to do eventually. All I am saying is I personally wont be shooting on an NX1 or NX500 in two years from now and the upgrade from the NX500 to the NX1 is not worth the money for two years of use. Does that make sense?

for $1,500 you could buy alot of gear that will last you forever and will improve your workflow alot more than the upgrade. The monopod and drone were just some examples as I have no idea what he currently has. Hell i would even suggest take the northrups advice and spend that money on a trip somewhere for a week and shoot a short film about it that IMO is a better investment than upgrading from the NX500 to NX1.

42 minutes ago, Kisaha said:

In my opinion, NX1 is a much better experience. Best ergonomics, best battery, heat management, 120fps, no 4K crop (all the rest have some kind of crop, even X1.1), best menu system, Operating System, and all these best in class. If you can find for really cheap (less than 899euros, or less than 1399 including any of the S lenses) and you have some NX lenses already, then it is worth it. I don't see any competitive camera for less than double that price soon. Probably the next Sonies will be better (I am talking about overall quality, not a thing or two per camera), but they will be expensive, and they are not going to be here any time soon (the APS-Cs, I expect the next full frame models to be awesome, if based on the new A99 hardware).

I agree however like I mentioned we are all going to need to change systems eventually and if not buying a NX1 now is the difference between getting a one "pro" lens(24-70) or two "pro" lens(24-70 & 70-200) when you do switch systems in one or two years I would suggest you save your money.

Or if you have money now that is burning a hole in your pocket and you are the type of person who needs to constantly be buying new gear. Invest in gear support like a mono pod or gimbal. Hell even get a drone all of these will improve your film making more than upgrading to an NX1 from an NX500.

1 minute ago, Marco Tecno said:

Add also 120fps at 2k.

What? the NX1 doesn't do 2k 120fps????

Am I missing something that was added with a hack????

39 minutes ago, Chris Oh said:

It would take a lot more work and same if not more money if he doesn't have any tools, than the cowboy studios one. :D

No tools required. ~$10 worth of piping and fittings and $5 for black duct tape.

nvm your right you need a drill and drill bit I forgot about the screw mount part.

I always take my tools for granted lol.

Having said that I am sure you could find someone who has a shop/drill you could use.

6 minutes ago, mnewxcv said:

Does the NX1 have anything that makes it worthwhile to upgrade to from the NX500 other than external mic and 4K crop? I have the NX500 now and use an external audio recorder, which I wish I didn't have to do, especially since I was planning to buy the proprietary samsung mic that is now a unicorn. But does the NX1 have anything the NX500 doesnt besides those two things that would benefit using it for video?

The NX1 is has quite a few features that the NX500 doesn't have mainly the EVF and no 4k crop.

However I would suggest you don't upgrade and save your money to buy into a new system. Not because the samsung system is not good but because you will have to eventually so mine as well save as much money as you can to fully leap into a new system when the time comes. This is exactly what I am doing.

You should just make one from PVC from home depot. Google PVC shoulder rig and you will find tones of tutorials and examples and you can come up with your own design.

Personally I feel like you should either go super cheap eg. PVC from home depot or high end expensive stuff. I rarely fall in the middle

11 hours ago, DPStewart said:

Wow. Canon EF lenses working WITH IS on an NX1.... THAT would be some large jar of awesome sauce.

As for the hack - It's fine if it doesn't go any further because it already has added so much. I say "let it be finished". One less thing to always be updating, right?
As for it only adding "ten-percent better image quality", well that's HUGE. That's a lot. Especially if it's doing it right where it's needed.
For critical images it has been worth the effort. I can get footage to work when cut in with higher-grade cameras now that that grunge in the shadows has been cleaned up. That was enough. Heck, it's everything really. If not for that one factor, I probably would have had to let my NX1 go in exchange for something a lot more expensive. 

I completely agree re IQ. I didn't mean to start an argument about the 10% thing. Like I said 10% is a pretty big jump up and I love it I am just currently not using the hack out of pure lazyness i guess lol.

As for the "let it finished" bit I agree and disagree. I agree that I have got all I want out of the hack (bitrate increase). However I disagree in that I thing we should say let it never be finished. AS long as their are people out their who are having fun improving the hack let them continue. 

Another thing that I like is from time to time I would think of a cool feature that could possible be added and like the though that someone might actually do it some day

On 4/29/2016 at 6:07 AM, mojo43 said:

Reporting back. I just picked up the Came H4. It is really light and very easy to setup. I would say that the flycam can do just as well, but there is definitely a huge advantage of having the precision knobs. It takes no time at all to balance which makes it worth the extra cash imo.

@mojo43, Now that you have had some time to live with the Came H4 do you have any more input to report back? do you ever use it or has it settled in your gear closet?

4 minutes ago, SR said:

@kidzrevil, as in a diffusion lens filter?

Go, @kinoseed!

@MountneerMan, you didn't see much improvement in shadow noise or motion cadence (a pain in a lot of my non-hacked videos)?

I am not a professional so take this for what its worth but I think the whole motion cadence thing is BS.

as for the shadow noise and fine patterns I did see some improvement but again its no more than 10% improvement. I mean 10% is still a pretty big improvement really when you think about.

I do think alot about putting the hack back on from time to time and maybe I will someday. Maybe I will give the NX-KS hack another shot.  

25 minutes ago, kidzrevil said:

Looks like its over ?...it was fun while it lasted

https://www.facebook.com/NXKS2/

A new version was released last night.

10 minutes ago, /Chop N Shoot Films/ said:

So has the hack development ended? 

@kinoseed is still working on NX-KS (https://www.facebook.com/NXKS2/). I haven't looked into his hack for quite awhile but it looks like he is still working on it.

@vasile has stopped working on his version and has kind of disappeared. My guess is he is moved onto a new project and is likely working on something else.

Me personally I am not using any hack. I did try out and early version of NX-KS but found most of the features were not for me. I also used vasiles bitrate hack for quite awhile but eventually I factory reset my camera to remove the hack and have not reinstalled it. The bitrate hack does improve quality but IMO only by about 10% at most so I dont really miss it that much.

On 9/22/2016 at 9:42 AM, cojocaru27 said:

Normal gamma, and mostly Ricadro's settings. Enjoy :

 

I will have to give Ricardo's setting a try when I get some free time.

One more question @cojocaru27, was this shot with the bitrate hack?

3 hours ago, homestar_kevin said:

Great work here guys!

If you guys are after the 16-50s, I just wanted to point out that it looks like samsungparts still has some of them.

If you guys remember that dpreview thread with all the lenses being available for cheap from the samsung parts site, some of those deals are still available.

The 16-50s is $800 new. There is no lens hood included, though it can be ordered separately for like $16 if i remember.

This is how I got my 16-50 when this was first brought to light.

 

Here's the link if anyone wants it

http://www.samsungparts.com/Products/Parts_and_Accessories/PID-AD97-23876A.aspx

 

Seemingly sketchy site, but I've bought multiple lenses from them and have had good experiences.




 

Do they have any 50-150S lens? and how much

On 9/23/2016 at 10:10 AM, cojocaru27 said:

here u go : Normal Gamma with sat -5, sharpness -10 and contrast -3. I had MB at plus 9

How do you set sat, sharp, and contract with Normal Gamma? Do you use the picture profile?

Just watched it again. I really like the contrast, sharpness, saturation and everything else in the shot at 0:40. absolutely incredible! Please reveal your secret to this exact shot lol.

46 minutes ago, cojocaru27 said:

Normal gamma, and mostly Ricadro's settings. Enjoy :

 

I really like this as well. I love the detail and sharpness. I also would like to know the lens.

To save time from looking through the forum what are Ricardo's Setting you used and did you use any LUTS in PP or just graded it yourself?

What does the dial on the front under the lens and to the left do?

also does any one have experience with this type and swivel screen? I am unsure If I like it more less or the same and the GH4/5 type screen.

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1 GB SD cards that ridiculous, no one needs that much room.

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1 TB SD cards thats ridiculous, no one needs that much room.

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1 Petabyte cards that's ridiculous, no one needs that much room.

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Good job SanDisk keep up the good work.

1 hour ago, SullyCortez said:

Most likely it will have IBIS. I can't see them introducing 'dual in body is mk ii' and NOT putting it in their biggest camera..... 99% its there

I would say that by not mentioning it in the launch indicates that there is a better chance of not having it then having it.

Im not saying they wont put it in. I am just saying IMO its more like 85% chance no IBIS and 15% IBIS.