MountneerMan

21 hours ago, Antonis said:

I actually prefer using the Filmconvert 'default camera' profile over NX1 profile(s) as those indeed give too much red and too little saturation in the blues.

Here is a video I did today, graded with Filmconvert and shot on the RX100m4 & NX1:

 

 

Sweet video. I have a few questions.

1. Was all the slow motion shots the NX1?

2. If so what settings did you use and are you useing the bit rate hack?

10 minutes ago, andy lee said:

I'm with you on this Bioskop.Inc ,

this is International criminal activity with no regard what so ever for EOSHD members , not to mention 3 years of lies on this forum ,

and suddenly everyone is friends again and all is ok .  come on guys  Its not OK ! wake up !

ES is a very sophisticated criminal who stole from EOSHD members and they need paying back asap. We have to wait and see if that EVER happens.

 

Be very very cautious about anything said by ES its not all of a sudden all true.

 

If we ban him he could just make a new profile and we would have no idea who he is. If he keeps using this same profile we will all know and can as you said "be very cautious of anything he *says*".

I think the saying goes. keep your friends close but keep your enemies even closer.

I vote no ban.

I would rather him stick around with this profile than have him create a new profile under a different name.

I think it goes without saying he should be banned from posting in the gear for sale sub forum.

Definitely best forum thread I have ever read and that includes some of the famous redit AMAs I have read.

I just noticed that this thread is now the largest thread on EOSHD. Keep up the good work guys Lets not let things slow down there is still more potential left to be unlocked in these cameras.

5 hours ago, SMGJohn said:

Too bad no Samsung employee will leak the tools they used for NX1, or they probably ended up in concrete somewhere in Tokyo bay

I think you mean the Han river located in Seoul, South Korea

On a related note if you ever do any international business in South Korea or Japan I would highly recommend you don't mix the two up because to each other they are kinda like that neighbor you don't like but are nice to because being rude would just make both your lives a living hell. Kinda like what we Canadian do with the US lol.

@vasile, May I ask what the next feature you think you are going to work on?

33 minutes ago, tugela said:

What we need is an electronic adapter that will pass signal through. Is suspect that it is not so simple in the case of NX though. I would guess that most of the mainstream lenses, such as Canon and Nikon ones, have dumb electronics and it would be just a simple signal passthrough. The NX lenses may be partially intelligent and operate off codes sent to/from the camera rather than just a signal. That would represent a fundamental system incompatibility and make an electronic adapter considerably more expensive to produce..

http://***URL removed***/forums/post/57361842

35 minutes ago, Daniel Galli said:

what about a speedboster to ef lens? i know there is a problem with the nx mount, but i dont think its impossible, i would crush my nx500 body to fit a speedboster if its necesary lol.

Meta bones it not going to be redesigning their optics to fit the NX mount.

http://www.metabones.com/article/of/faq

This is a funny post because I noticed the same tthing last night lol.... I even said "holy C100!" lol

I am definitely out of the loop on the NX-KS patch ever since he decided to focus his interactions on his facebook page oppose to on here and DPreview but last I understood was that it was only possible to change the resolution setting of given slots in the menu eg set UHD to the HD setting.

I was told by Vasile who helped discover this mod that the first thing he tried was to replace VGA-MJPEG with UHD and it doesn't work http://***URL removed***/forums/post/57862276

Perhaps Kinoseed has discovered a new mod I am not aware of though.

13 hours ago, Sawstory said:

i wonder why the hackers did not try that?

They have tried to get this working with no results.... yet, I think there is still hope for MJPEG but right now no clear path on how to get there.

29 minutes ago, kidzrevil said:

Im writing my own guide. May even put it out for free, I've been testing the nx1 hack or no hack for a while now. Came up with some damn good in cam settings and how to expose to benefit from the increase in bitrate. I document my findings you can find it on my vimeo.com/kidzrevil @timmyturntable

I have thought about putting together a video in Dave Dugdale style to talk about the bit-rate hack. I have even wrote down some notes of things to test/discuss one day when I was just sitting around. I think I am subconsciously waiting for someone else todo it so I don't have to lol.

I would rather not take sides. I support what both of you are working on and at this point they are quite different mods that appeal to different peoples needs. Vasile is working on a lean and clean mod with only a few features(right now its just bit-rate) and Kinoseed is working on squeezing as much as possible out of these two amazing cameras (witch to date has been amazing what he has been able to get out of them).

Having said that It doesn't really matter what bill gates stole from Steve jobs or what Steve stole from bill gates they both have two different products for two different demographics. Besides I would hope that if someone comes up with a better way of doing something or something super useful the other would use it as well. You guys are both publishing as open source don't forget. 

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I often compare open source to science. To where science took this whole notion of developing ideas in the open and improving on other peoples' ideas and making it into what science is today and the incredible advances that we have had. And I compare that to witchcraft and alchemy, where openness was something you didn't do.  - Linus Torvalds

Full disclosure, All I really care about at this time is the bit-rate hack so I am leaning towards vasile's stripped down mod at this point in time but I really like what kinoseed is doing as well. As stated above my preference would be a world were everyone could get along and work together to exchanging ideas, even if they are working on separate projects/mods. unfortunately I know that is not really the world we live in  .

Just to update those of you who are not on dpreview but there has been a falling out between Kino Seed (primary contributor of NX-KS) and vasile (the original bitrate hack creator). They are now producing separate hacks.

Vasile has a hack that has a UI, auto install and uninstall and works on both the new versions of NX1 and NX500. He is going to work on a new way of implementing the hack so it does not need BT to work and should speed up the hack. You can find his hack here. There are a few UI bugs but things are looking really good so far.

I believe NX-KS now has a bitrate hack as well for the NX500 but not for the NX1 yet. He has also implemented a bunch of other neat hacks such as zoom exposure and stuff. None of these other hacks are really useful to me but others on dpreview are loving them.

P.S. I liked it better when we had one hack not two and its hard to tell if this is going to be a good thing or not but I am not in a position to complain.... I got my high bitrate

1 hour ago, SMGJohn said:

Amazing, I wish I had the balls like you to just film public like that, I tried but maybe there is still some shyness inside of me. That and everytime you pull a big camera in the public in such a small city as I live, people instantly look weird at you.

What is your secret?

My trick is to hold the camera at like chest/neck level and walk around like that and just act like I am pondering something then when you do bring it up to your eye no one is like WOW a camera everyone was kinda already expecting it lol.

Also another small trick that helps me is I push rec before I bring the camera up (NOTE NX1 you need to make sure EVF is on first ) for some reason in my head I feel like its less of a "now I'm recording" moment and I tend to act more casual about the whole thing lol.

23 minutes ago, Kisaha said:

I have used A7 cameras, A7Sii is great, but only using it as a sensor (as we use the black magic cameras, no ergonomics whatsoever),  the battery life is the worst ever fro pro work (together with black magic pocket!), menus/button placement just terrible, screens (back screen, EVF) not that great, and I am against full frame sensors for video (I do not like the aesthetic and practical problems it creates). Also, maybe A7 cameras are smaller than NX1, the lenses are big and heavy, so I can't really see any advantage there, in the contrary, with such big and heavy lenses you need a sturdy dSLR like style body. 

I have used the sony a7s a bunch and held the A7S/Rii and I agree entirely I hate those cameras in almost every way except the image it outputs. I also completely agree that the NX1 is pretty much the perfect size/weight.

23 minutes ago, Kisaha said:

If you earn money from the NXes, the investment is just minimal, maybe for a hobbyist ia not very wise to invest (actually, I am resisting too), but as a short term investment, is not that bad (considering that the S lenses are 2 to 3 times cheaper than similar ones in other systems).

well if you get the NX1 you wont be disappointed that is for sure. I am definitely not disappointed with it.

Just as long as you know going into it that any costs sunk into NX gear is pretty much non recoverable as you will have a very hard time selling it in 2 years.

I think your best bet would then be to get the NX1 pro kit(if you can find it) then stick to used manual glass after that.

23 minutes ago, Kisaha said:

GH4 ergonomics are really far behind NX1.

IMO the ergonomics of the GH4 are better than NX1. I much prefer the location of the ISO and WB bottoms on the GH4 and Love the focus switch on the back plus the flip out screen is so handy. However the I do not miss the stupid wheel on the back that thing sucks. But ergonomics are a personal preference.

8 minutes ago, shanebrutal said:

Good luck on your search for a new nx1 my man. EBay seems to be the best bet as others have said. My gripe is the used prices are way too high in the US. I'm a nx1 16-50s lens combo owner wanting to complete a collection of the 85, 50-150 and fisheye but dang I'm really discouraged and it makes me want to bail on the nx1 haha.

Here in Vancouver atleast two london drug locations have NX1 pro kits for sale. They were on sale for $2,399 CAD last I saw

7 hours ago, Kisaha said:

I from the other side just consider getting the 16-50S and/or the 50-150. I am reconsidering my options very dynamicaly (almost real time!) and I do not see anything better with similar, or slightly more cost, than a NX1+16-50S combo. The practicallity of this, is just priceless. IBIS is the only thing missing, but the NX1 is perfect size/weight wise, for the most image stabilizers (e.g Ronin), and I do not see any APS-C camera surprass it anytime soon, and when it will, it won't be cheap (including glass), so I huess I am good for at least a couple more years, which is a lifetime for equipment of this sort.

Together with the NX500, is just a perfect combo for 4K low budget jobs, and if I want run and gun 1080p, I go C100mkII.

Dont get me wrong I love my NX1. It is an incredible camera that continually impresses me. It is actually the only camera I have ever used that has not let me down once it just always works exactly as you expect it to with really good ergonomics and I would not think twice about buying the camera again.

Now having said all that I would have a hard time buying the 16-50S or 50-150S right now because they will essentially be useless in about 2 years and for that reason and that reason alone if I was in your position I would very likely get a sony like the A7S/Rii. I do cringe though at the thought of trying to get used to the ergonomics of that camera lol.

My idea camera would be the A7sii internals wih an EF lens mount in the GH4 body lol but lets not turn this thread into another dream camera thread lol.

I am not an expert when you comes to linux or tizen or hacking or even cameras for that matter but considering the NX1 is running X this seams like it would be definitely possible and likely easy to implement with using the Xlib.

4 minutes ago, SMGJohn said:

Well yes e-shutter basically works just like it does for video. 

However the 5DM3 does line skipping while NX1 reads the entire sensor and then downsamples it, at this point I just get a headache from thinking about all the technicalities maybe someone with more expertise can reply explaining how, why and why not. 

I am pretty sure the NX1 could technically do raw videos but at 2160p or 4k I am a bit sceptical as its a lot of data to process and dump into the SD card, remember it downsamples it which means the CPU is actually doing something unlike with the 5DM3 where it just dumps it without doing much other than corrections.

Its more possible it would be raw video at 1440p but this would require some serious hacking like Magic Lantern if not even more.

I don't think you understand what I am wanting to do.

What I am talking about is figuring out what the highest fps the NX1 can capture full RAW images at continuously without buffering out. Say that it can do 6fps then you process and stitch together in post as if it were a time lapse then you would basically have a 6.5k RAW 4x high speed video.

As far as I am concerned this is 100% possible today its just a matter of how many frames it can actually do and if at that rate it would be usable for anything.

But now that you guys have brought up jpeg it would be interesting to see if you set it to jpeg normal(lowest quality) full e-shutter and then just let the camera rip and see how many fps it can do and for how long?

I am not good with this stuff but what about a script like this. would this not just let the camera rip as fast as possible in normal quality? lol

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st cap capt quality normal & wait $!

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2 minutes ago, SMGJohn said:

RAW video will be slightly different from burst photos though, the NX1 is not locked to 15fps, that is just how fast the shutter is capable of physically moving, 5DM3 does 24 and even 60fps raw video just fine albeit at resolutions as low as 720p.

Its just a matter of how much data the camera is capable of writing to the card, like the Canon 500D can do 1080p RAW video just fine, but the SD card module just is not capable dealing with such a high data flow. 

Samsung NX1 however is, but then again we would have to find a way to get RAW data out of the sensor and dump it into the SD card to begin with, the best we can hope with is MJPEG or JPEG dump, and JPEG's are already a billion times better than the HEVC already in terms of quality and dynamic range including the data there is in each frame.

Do a burst even at downsampled resolution and you get seriously good imagery that look like something from a Red.

what is different from RAW video and RAW photo bursts with e-shutter? I mean you would have to process them in Lr/Ps into jpeg then stitch them together in Pr just like a time lapse. I guess that is more what I am proposing a SUPER SUPER slow motion time lapse(with 0.167 sec between each photo) oppose to a high speed video lol.

20 minutes ago, AaronL said:

4k Raw at 24fps would be amazing, if even for a few seconds.

I agree 4k 24p RAW would be alot more usable but at this point it does not seam to be feasible.

What I was suggesting is a script that would just start taking regular full RAW pictures at the highest rate the camera can sustain. This seams quite reasonable to do at this point you would just need to play around with it a bit to figure out the shortest time you need to "sleep" for so the buffer never fills up.

Wait can you "sleep 0.167" for example on the NX1/500?

Edit: The 15fps does not have anything to do with the shutter being able to move fast enough. The sensor can only read so fast. also the buffer fills up at about 20 pictures at 15fps so you would get about .8 seconds of video if it was possible

14 minutes ago, essbe said:

Really love this hack, enabling silent shutter mode was enough to make me happy, and it's wonderful to see it progress. A strange request perhaps but would it be possible to disable the automatic image flip/horizontal alignment of the display so we could have an upside down image when the camera is upside down? Would be useful for me, but probably not for anyone else.

Does the silent shutter work on the NX1 or still NX500 only?

Also something that I have been thinking about that is kinda related to the silent shutter is there has to be a continuous shooting speed for RAW images that will let the camera shoot continuously forever and wont buffer out? This would give us high-speed 6.5k RAW video. I dont know if it would be practical but I was just thinking that say if the NX1 can shoot 6fps continuously you would only need to speed it up 400% to get 24p. you could probably get away with 300%

It would definitely fill up your card fast lol but what do you guys think is this something worth looking into or would 6.5k RAW 4x speed video be useless?

On 4/4/2016 at 8:51 AM, MountneerMan said:

Compressed video usually only records the change in pixels compared to a reference frame.

http://www.axis.com/global/en/learning/web-articles/technical-guide-to-network-video/video-compression-guide

So a very detailed scene could have the same bitrate as a pure black scene as long as nothing is moving in either. Every few seconds a new reference frame is encoded witch would cause the bitrate to jump especially in a very detailed scene.

Honestly I am a pretty big noob when it comes to all this stuff and there are a lot of people on here who know and understand this stuff alot better than me but this is how I understand it.

I just watched this video that I thought some of you might like regarding video compression. most if not all of you will already know this but it a cool video demonstration none the less.

Side note I like it when he throws his coat out of the Ae screen. Cool little effect lol.

9 hours ago, ReinisK said:

No, it does not. By manual I meant manual focus and no aperture adjustment.

 

P.S. If you need aperture blades in EF-NX adapter - https://www.fotodioxpro.com/pro-lens-mount-adapter-builtin-declicked-iris-canon-lens-to-samsung-nx-camera.html

Thank you for clarifying but this just makes me more confused.

Does the iris move when you zoom a lens in order to keep the same fstop or is there something I am missing? someone on this forum has to have the answer to this.

I also liked it and agree that you can call it whatever you want and regardless of what you call it it is well shot and looks good.

Having said that my suggestion is IF you want to make it look like a more "traditional" music video just take a few hours and shoot one generic cine that fits in with the theme like in the hotel room or in the woods(or both) of the person lip singing the full song or even just the chorus then inter cut that footage throughout the video. That would make it a more traditional music video.

DISCLAIMER: I have never shot a music video in my life so take my advice for what its worth.