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@Hangs4Fun are you a brand ambassador or tech tester for Sony? Great infos about the A7siii. Thank you. Any caveheats with it like battery life or noise reduction artefacts in low light?

This camera seems to be an image quality monster like the S1H, if the 150mbit 10bit codec is as stellar or the same as on the GH5. And, Varicam image quality. A few of us are still talking about autofocus a lot when we already could assume it would not be much better. That I find missing the point of this 10bit image machine. This is a indie cinema filmmakers camera dream come true. A full frame GH5 with full VLog. A varicam for your backpack. I tested the high iso noise reduction of the S1 in its 709 modes and HLG 75mbit. It looks to my eye pretty much non existent on a big monitor. To users like Dennis alias deezid of course it is still there. And I am happy he has a keen eye on image quality like no other forum member. Btw, for 1999 EU you can get this cam with a Sigma 45 2.8 until September 30th in Europe. If no other caveheats showing up, perfect release, except micro hdmi. Wait, what has Panasonic thought, no fun with external monitors! No fun with focus pulling. Wow, at the end of my rambling I must admit, due to the micro hdmi it is not the indie cinema filmmakers dream come true. GH5 still is. But it is an image quality lovers dream come true. Darn, no full HDMI. How, excuse me, silly does that look. Would have been a perfect release with one. Really dig that tasty image quality as shown in Potato Jets review:

When is the S5 hitting the stores? Cannot wait to see reviews, sell my S1 and get one. Swivel screen and all the codecs already in there are too much to hold back. Well done, Panasonic, a disappointed customer becomes a satisfied customer. All by the same product. What a paradox! Darn!:)

Havent seen new S1 cameras with the Vlog update for that price, neither without the Vlog. Swivel screen on the S5 is super cool for me. S5 does not have full HMDI?

Haven´t you posted these exact words before? You really mean it and you love your S1. Want to get a second body? I might sell mine. cheers 🙂

I think the same. I might sell my S1 and not bother with hybrids anymore. I love the Lumix brand but this product philosophy and conduct kinda makes want to leave my Pannysvhs alias behind and just stay with Svhs or VHS or pencil and paper. Writing might be a beautiful to do. Becoming better in concepting. Spent so much money on cameras. S1 will have to go I feel. MFT and FS700 and F3 will stay.

All of my favorite of Andrews videos offer beautiful colour. Digital Bolex, GH4 in amazing glory, Samsung NX1, of course GH1 and GH2 with legendary quality, and so on- all showcase colour and milk the last bit of image quality, not even talking about the beautiful compositions, atmosphere and aesthetic pleasure. In my eyes the GFX video looks blank colour wise. I don´t know if it is the incarnation of FLog or the season of the year but I am a bit surprised. Colour has not that Fuji Eterna magic which we know from the XT series. Coupling this beast of a camera with the Zeiss zoom is an awesome move. Good thing there are not so many GFX owners out there to rise prices for the Zeiss zoom into the four digit region.:) Would be lovely to see some lucious nature and impressive faces with this camera.

S5 and S1 with update (not free unfortunately unlike the cheaper S5, no 4k60 10bit whatsoever unlike that upcoming rascal camera S5 😞 ) provide astonishing cinema image quality in a small form factor. Their image quality is pretty unique at that price point. It rivals, equals a C300ii but with much better low light and without any nasty noise reduction. Couple that with some cheaper vintage glass and you are in cinema heaven on the cheap. I still cannot believe the quality of the S1 even in its puny 75mbit hlg h265 mode. Still, if Pana wants to show uncomparable grace in their product line up, they give us some tasty free update for the S1. If so, I will call them Panny again. Hope that could be a good reason to give us the quality codecs and VLOG of their lesser S5 camera. Untile then my name shall be PanaSVHS. Love the size of the S1 though. One point for S1 owners.:) Z6 in the store does not quiete compare for me in that regard.

Darn, what a thread! Tasty as tasty anamorphic can be! Whatever that means. It means: Wow!:)

I would be upset at Pana for still charging 200 EU for the update. Not upset in a sense that matters in perspective to the great cameras and opportunities for film and digital art. Still the opposite of proactive or intuitively reactive exitement regarding my own purchase and its fiscal consequence in perspective to the S5 launch. Great camera, not so great camera or Lumix S1 mood right now for me. No biggie just a bit complaining on our favorite camera blog. Don´t get pulled into this too much, of course. :) Anyway, cameras are too good these days to be true. Crazy image quality in the Lumix line and BM and Canon and Nikon cams, not even to talk about the C series or EVA, Varicam and likes. GH5 was the biggest launch in my eyes for true low budget cinema. What a camera. S5 will even top that. I might get one, if battery and anything else is as strong as its codecs and video. cheers

Pay 200 EU for a software update if you are a S1 owner but get all that stuff for free plus swivel screen plus 10bit 4K60. Unappealing outlook on this new release. S1 was not a good deal compared to the S5, if specs are true without caveheats. S5 will could be a megaseller like the GH5, the number is right already. S1, i feel a bit cheated by Pana due to the S5 release. @Andrew Reid Andrew, if you find time, what is the benefit of buying a S1 these days in your opinion? Are there any, especially without the 200EU VLOG update? We will see, there arent any. I am not considering the battery and the top display a good trade off for the missing codecs, 10bit and VLOG, nor swivel screeen. S5 really looks super exiting! Darn!

@Geoff CB But you seem to care how it looks like, since you are reposting the whole post again. 🙂 Yes, let´s see some moving images of that combo or even from the camera alone!

@DFason super cool video and exellent editing! Awesome that the little guys didnt end up as food and can enjoy the lush nature instead! Would love to see a setup of your beautiful camera. cheers

We should encourage Panasonic not to cripple the S1 with a paid update for VLog and 10bit. G9 has gotten a free 10bit update. Would be very cool if Panasonic could give us the same HD quality as the GH5 too. No necessity for less HD quality than on the GH5.

Wowsers! 1986, VHS heaven:) Yeah, I love their cams, Got five of them, GF1, G6 (stopped working, did great being my first digital video camera), G7, GX85, S1. Now you Gods at Panasonic, give my GF1 that freaking VLOG update:) @Andrew Reid Do you see good reasons to not to sell the S1 and get a S5. And, do you see a good reason for new buyers to get a S1 rather than the S5. Your word on this would be super cool! Thanks!

S1 with out the VLOG and 10bit update becoming the stinker in the lineup. Not an exiting purchase I did, compared to the upcoming S5. After one and a half year after its release it is already very unattractive compared to its follow up. Selling a S1 now to video lovers feels like cheating them. @Andrew Reid Why should one buy the S1 for 10bit video these days? 200 EUR for the software update of the S1 while the S5 already has it plus 4k60 in 10bit! I´ve been a Panasonic fan for years, big time. Not anymore by heart but maybe by pragmatism due to their nice cams. Just not by heart anymore. I know cameras a banal to be worrying about. But hey, this is a camera forum and a place of joy and sometimes lamento.

That not only makes the S1 a lesser keeper in the linup but rather the stinker after one and a half year after its introduction. Will sell it I guess before prices drop too much. Was close to buy the VLOG update for 200. Not anymore.

You can buy the Lumix S5 and be happy about its astonishing video quality and great codecs. Too bad I bought the S1 instead eight months ago. Seems like the S5 is the best you can get for your money. An awesome deal! We will see September the 2nd, as Andrew stated. S1 owners will be a bit grumpy that day.:)

Time to sell the S1. At least not a good time to pay 200EU for the VLOG update. So I will film another shortfilm with one of the lesser codecs. The 10bit h265 420 75mbit is very weak on evenly toned surfaces unfortunately.

Not similar, unfortunately for S1 owners. S1 is left in the dust by the S5 with its 10bit codecs and VLOG. For the S1 you have to shell out another 200 EU for that. And still dont have the 10bit 4k60p. Making the S1 not a keeper in the line up. Better to sell now and get the S5. Not so exiting for S1 owners unless Panasonic comes up with a free VLOG 10bit update for the S1. Upgraded HD with quality like that of the GH5 would be nice too. What do you think about this? @Andrew Reid

Matti should put up the link. It´s part of journalistic work. Tech journalism on youtube must include that high standard. Someone with a youtube account could remind him in a friendly manner. Engaging and friendly communication and exchange about kewl stuff is what we all enjoy. So Matti will to put up the link and quality content can find the people who deserve to read the info and newest facts.

S5 is the entry model, so price will be lower. It has VLOG and all the 10bit codecs plus 10bit in 4K60p. As a S1 owner i will have to pay another 200EU for that, still not having 10bit 4K60. I would´nt want the 4K60 in 10bit if HD quality would be close to the stellar HD quality of the GH5, which it is by far not. All that if specs and rumors are for real, of course.

Well, supposely the specs are real, the S5 is better regarding codecs and VLog profile out of the box. Firmware update for S1 or information about it would be very appreciated. Would be a bummer to buy the VLog update right before a free one. Would be wasted 200 squids! My work with the S1 is 90% video. So S5 looks more promising to me at the moment than S1, if usuability is similar to the S1 regarding video.

Thank you. That sounds like a solution. Finally! 🙂 I was thinking about that a few hours before I read your answer but didnt follow through on the thought. Fascinating how our brains work sometimes.:) Which specific M to Konica AR adapter do you use? Novoflex or less pricey brands? What mounts and lenses do you adapt to it? I am asking, because I have a history with adapters like many of us, dealing with different qualities and experiences. The lens I want to adapt weights about 1.1kg / 2.5 pounds. It´s a big lens with 82mm filter thread. I will have to use it with lens support I am pretty sure, also as both adapters will be similar in thickness. I rent some Contax Zeiss lenses once in a while for m43 on a EF speedbooster. The C/Y to EF adapter is pretty thin and is glued to the m43- EF adapter. I think with similar thickness of both adapters, stability is a bit weaker. I have a FD to L-mount adapter that is beautifully made. I posted a picture here on the forum before. It´s made by Cieco7 and sold on ebay. I asked him about a Konica - Lmount variante. He has not answered yet. But maybe we will get a beautyfully crafted Konica to L-mount adapter some time. There might be a way to modify the Konica lens to EF mount. That way I would have a mini varicam with built in ND and a cine quality zoom lens. Guess what Konica lens I am talking about.:)

I think, the S1 looks like the poor relative to the S series, being without the nice codecs of the S5 and the 10bit 4k60p. Instead S1 owners have to pay 200EU for the software update but without 10bit 4K60p! Question is, selling the S1 now or buy the update? Some cheap used S1s will appear on Ebay soon, I think, if specs of S5 are true and if camera is without caveheats. Why the name S5 anyway- to compliment the name logic of the GH5? Makes the S1 look even more like treated as the poor relative by Panasonic. Of course S1 is still a great camera. We will know more soon. No reason to complain, just sayin.