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@Dave Maze I think S5 puts out a better image for half the price in a prettier body. Now I wanna see your face drool all over that beauty. 🙂 Camera 1 is Alexa, right! I betcha! Well, you guys watch yourself and guess.:)

I totally second that. If S5 only had full HDMI for a sufficient monitor setup in a indie cinema enviroment, which includes good manual focus pulls. That way I have a S1 with an additional 200 EUR to pay for 10bit VLOG, still without 10bit 4K60, which the S5 got in S35 mode. So, shelling out 200 EUR to have 10bit plus full HDMI minus 10bit 4k60? Maybe I just sell the S1 and be happy with my FS700 external 10bit 4K60 and HD240p via SDI, full frame with my Speedbooster! For the whole setup I didnt pay more than I paid for the S1 without 10bit.

Sounds interesting. Maybe it has an synergetic effect on a genereal understanding of the grammar of truth. Review sites draw just the right audience to be interested enough in the truthfulness of reviews and being interested on spending their hard earned money comeptently. The geekyness of the subject and readers might implement a general curiosity which could transfer to subjects as climate change and such as well. Yes, a site like that would be cool with great effects on educating about truth in general.

@MrSMW The S1 offers a 4K or 6K photo mode, either in H265, 10bit, 420 or 8bit in h264, 6ish K or the latter in 4K APS-C. You can save them as Jpegs or keep them as video files. No APS-C raw files though.

Now you tell me this is filmed in 422 and I can buy a cheapo BMVA rather than a bulky Pix or Gemini.:) Beautiful tones and shot! Which one of the SLOG uses did you apply, the one which Ben (Ericson) described in this thread or the one from Renaissance Man? Did you lit with Tungsten?

Hmm, tastiest of all threads! Besides the Eos M Super8 one or the lens thread or the BW on 8bit, of course.:) In the same league as the best of Eoshd classics. Anyway, such a fun thread. I love the these kind of youtube links, to some cool characters who provide great knowledge in an enjoyable way. Zeeks channel is really cool and fun! Thanks guys, for such great reading and viewing pleasures, nerdom and education!

@Beritar You beat me to it. You rascal.:) But not on the write up. Here is mine from my post in the A7siii thread two minutes ago. S5 is an image quality monster. The godzilla camera for your pocket: Lumix S5 is a real winner. When I tested the 8bit codecs of the S1, there was no mushyness whatsoever at high isos in extreme low (no) light situations. a few tiny Artefacts became visible in the shadows at no light. Interesting enough the super slim 75mbit h265 codec had grain in these situations, on the contrary it breaks apart on evenly and well lit plain surfaces. So I have been super impressed. Still don´t have the Vlog update, because I dont know if Panasonic will give it to us for free very soon. Would be a bit of wasted 200 USD then. S1, no mushyness in the shadows in no light situations, but grain. "No light" what a term for photography.:) S5 with Vlog has now been tested and it is performing the best compared to R5,6, A7siii, the latter one the worst. S5 is an image quality monster. Hard to believe they did it. Cinema quality in a 150mbit codec. Panasonic needs to promote it better. They can ask me being an ambassador. Here I come @andy lee 🙂 Check out Andrews friends from slashcam de and put it through the translator or check out the image. Amazing that S5 bad sis of a cam! I either sell my S1 and get one or wait for Pana to shell out a free VLog update:) Now check this image out and be amazed. The is a sophisticated raw debayering process called amazed by the way. Anyway, here you go: https://www.slashcam.de/images/texte/1974-300Prozent_Auge-300Prozent_Auge.jpg

@ade towell Actually Lumix S5 is a real winner. When I tested the 8bit codecs of the S1, there was no mushyness whatsoever at high isos in extreme low (no) light situations. a few tiny Artefacts became visible in the shadows at no light. Interesting enough the super slim 75mbit h265 codec had grain in these situations, on the contrary it breaks apart on evenly and well lit plain surfaces. So I have been super impressed. Still don´t have the Vlog update, because I dont know if Panasonic will give it to us for free very soon. Would be a bit of wasted 200 USD then. S1, no mushyness in the shadows in no light situations, but grain. "No light" what a term for photography.:) S5 with Vlog has now been tested and it is performing the best compared to R5,6, A7siii, the latter one the worst. S5 is an image quality monster. Hard to believe they did it. Cinema quality in a 150mbit codec. Panasonic needs to promote it better. They can ask me being an ambassador. Here I come @andy lee :) Check out Andrews friends from slashcam de and put it through the translator or check out the image.: https://www.slashcam.de/images/texte/1974-300Prozent_Auge-300Prozent_Auge.jpg

I think, GH5 is an amazing camera, especially for people who love to grade! I started to realize how awesome it was. The more, the better the stuff in front of it became, which I was filming. Arris gives us cows to grade but could gives us Joaquin Phoenix instead. 🙂 To me GH5 is like a filmcamera. Amazing image quality. Its HD is fantastic. If it had SDI I would call it a day. Without grading fun and enjoyment, it is just a video camera. Now, I better get myself to buy that freaggin VLog update for my S1. Better yet, if Panasonic shells it out for free, since we S1 owners are early adapters of their full frame line.

That´s exactely what I figured. Small recorder rigged beautifully the Ben Ericson way, giving hasslefree perfect 10bit HD up to 60p. 422 is still pretty great, even if YUV only. These smallrig parts have been getting pretty pricy. That swivel and tilt holder is a beauty though.

Panny is lucky that Sony didnt give this camera a good Inter codec with 10bit for 1080 up to 60p and 4k 24,25,30p. Gerald Undones outlook makes good sense. Miniaturization is an important step in technology as it has always been. A7c represents that, A7III tech with A7SIII autofocus in an A6000 body plus swivel screen! With codec options like the S5 and without overheating this would be a mega seller. Sony will consider that, I am sure. It´s the smallest LF 4K videocamera in the world that has IBIS and an EVF. Sigma FP becomes very appealing indeed now, being the smallest LF 4K camera with a great image.

I think it this way: When I was in the audience of Camerimage festival I heard something interesting from James Laxton, the DP of the masterpiece "Moonlight". Paraphrasing very freely: I love the look of THAT lens. Now I just want more of the image of around the frame of my Super 35 Arri with the same perspective, DOF, image characteristics. Whoopy, Arri LF, here you come! Of course I was paraphrasing very freely, as there is no Super 35 cinema prime just fitting the larger image circle of an LF camera. But we get the idea I think. Give me more space around the frame with the same lens. Equivalent focal lengths are helpful to consider an approximate of look and DOF and FOV characteristics one gets with one sensor size and another. But it is an approximation due to lacking equivalency regarding ALL lens parameters and magic attributes of the same lens.

Dang, now Eoshd is talking again. Beautiful nerdy threads. Keep em coming! I want some underdog beauty: GH4 or FZ2000 with external 10bit. GH4 with a YAWG and battery solution. Software mods, hardware mods, shitty rigs, super rigs- keep em coming, the happy bee is humming! EOS M super 8 raw thread was one of my favorites of the last two years. Would love people to shoot some recreational short pieces with these nerds´dream cams. Unfortunately I have not done the walk yet to be called a nerd. Maybe if I get to mod my Konica mount zoom lens to EF. Edit: that zeek youtube link above seems like a nerds entertainment dream. Thank you very much @stephen

I liked the design of the A6000. This one looks very unattractive to me. Panny on the other hand knows how to build handsome big and small cameras as well. S1, Gx85, GM1, S5, all pretty looking items.

Sizewise I think Ben Ericsons setup with the 5inch BM video assist had the perfect size. He powered it through a SWIFT battery via DTap from the F3. Your recorder provides beautiful 444 but looks to be a bit on the bulky side.:) Is it your recommended PiX E5? @Geoff CB Anyway, we need to see some footage from you and your thoughts on F3 vs S1! Your beautiful screenshots are too beautiful to not to want some moving images!

FF gives me cheap wide angles and cheap entry into all focal lengths. Nuff said. Thank you for dropping the wisdom. Spend money on camera body, save money on lenses, if AF does not matter. Just the thought of putting a 28mm or a 50mm Canon FD on my S1 makes my heart rush. Beautiful! Now, Panasonic, give your beautiful Lumix S1 a free 10bit VLOG update, 10bit 4k60p included. Put out a paid update for 10bit 120fps HD and your ALL Intra Codec for 799 EU and S1, S5 and S1H will coexist and all become megasellers. S2H, SDI and internal NDs for 4499EU in 2022.:) So, FF is great.

If Panasonic would only give some freebies for the S1 users, 10bit VLOG please, 4k60 10bit please. Thank you. 25p in 6K photomode. Thank you super much, Panny! A rigged GH5 is still an indiecinema beast. But that image quality from the Lumix S series is just another league. But is that so? I filmed some very spiffy stuff this weekend and I am amazed again about the material shot with the GH5 if applying some digital diffusion in post. Great looking image. But, S series is indeed in another league. Now, that update for the S1 would make me keep mine and buy a S5 later. 🙂

I just think, Panasonic, how could you not put a full HDMI in that beautiful S5! It would have been the perfect full frame GH5, with full VLOG, a Varicam Pocket with better photo quality than a Canon 5D IV. A Megaseller! That micro hdmi is hopefully not keeping this camera from doing well in sales.

I always loved the 28mm look on speedboosted (x 0.71) mft, which should be a little bit wider than the F3 sensor, which is 23.6mm wide. I am still waiting for a good deal on a Black magic video assist HD. Let´s get something started like a fun challenge or whatever we wanna call it. @TheRenaissanceMan @IronFilm @Geoff CB @Antoin e

Kindness is my middle name. Kind of:) My two cents about the GH6: Make it a mini SH1 plus SDI out. Low light as the GH5s or better, dual iso. Settings for zero noise reduction and sharpness and full VLOG curve and V Gamut. 20MP sensor with 7ms readout, super 16 mode, 10 bit 4k60 and perfectly resolved HD with 10bit up to 120fps. Give it that darn VLogger AF mode so it will dominate the market. Sell it for 2000EUR.

100%- thats perfect! Even better, if Panasonic gives the S5 a full HDMI port before they launch it on 30th of September. 🙂 GH6 launch is then allowed to wait a little bit.

Ah, beautiful video. The art of making the seemingly ordinary visible as something extraordinarily beautiful. The unprentious rhythm, the photographic gestalt. Well, fantastic. Thanks for going the extra mile! Schloss Charlottenburg! Some shots are breathtaking!

@Geoff CB Don´t you have a Tokina 28-70 2.6? Mind filming a bit with that beauty? I own that lens but still not BMVA, so I don´t bother filming with my F3 right now. My S1 gets more exposure for sure. I think F3 owners should do a F3 challenge. What kind of challenge could that be. Footage looks awesome no matter what. No challenge there.;) @Antoin e Hey, would love to see your video! Stills look lovely.

What lens was it? On youtube your wrote it was awful:) Love the results with it. Very beautiful video! @Tim Sewell

@Mustafa Dogan That´s the point I was trying to make in this thread. Thanks for pointing out and pointing to Geralds review. Interesting enough, to use the S5 as a cinema cam, micro HDMI becomes a bummer for certain purposes. I am using my S1 as BCam mostly to the C300ii which I rent. Using the internal monitor is a joy for that. Using it for dolly work or as an ACam on elaborated sets would require an external monitor as eyes get tired from small displays and operating plus focus pulling will suck, especially if doing it for days. So the S5 is an image wonder with a true and astonishing cinema image but not a cinema camera per se. So close to being perfect. Full HDMI, Panasonic! S2 with the same specs plus swivel screen and 10bit for HD 120p and 40k60 for 2500 USD/EUR- perfect cam and full HDMI of course.:)