Marcio Kabke Pinheiro

I've found a S5 for around the same price.

 

I've found a S5 for around the same price.

 

Of course it is clickbait. As I said, I suspect that the "future brand" was already chosen.

And I understand the concerns for the general public being fooled. From my part, I just see videos from a lot of people, much of those not exactly trustworthy (but never see Toneh or Polin, they are just annoying), because sometimes in the reviews they show some point that others did not cover (even found one time or another useful info coming from the master of bullshit, Mr. Ken Rockwell).

Buying decision making should NEVER be done with one opinion, and specially without knowing the faults of the desired product - because ALWAYS have more than one problem.

(that's why I never bought anything on pre-order, or even in the first months - wait for the weaknesses and the inevitable price drop after some months) 

For me it is the Komodo response. Canon never bothered with Blackmagic or Zcam. And with lower priced cameras.

If Panasonic somehow figured out the AF issues, in my view the S5 could be a hit. For exactly the same reasons that the A7 III was - not the best in any area, but a very good balance for most users with a good price in the segment.

The huge size of the S1 line was a downside for many people (albeit, with good reason, praised by a lot of other people). This was solved. If ony Pansonic could release less HUGE lenses...

Holy shit, I thought that the scales were wrong, played with the file in Gimp but they are right.

Made a VERY crude size comparison with the GH5 (got a size comparison between the S1 and GH5 in Camerasize, and used the S1 mount as size reference - sorry for the quality) and...looks like that it is even smaller than the GH5.

 

Yep, got the leaked size / weight of the S5, compared to the GH5:

GH5 - 138.5x98.1x87.4 mm (camera body only, excluding protrusion) - weight 724 with battery and sd card), 645g body only
S5 - 132.6 x 97.1 x 81.9mm (excluding protrusions) - weight 714g (with battery and sd card), 630g body only

It resembles VERY MUCH a GH5. Reinforces my opinion that a GH6 might not exist...

Holy shit, I thought that the scales were wrong, played with the file in Gimp but they are right.

Made a VERY crude size comparison with the GH5 (got a size comparison between the S1 and GH5 in Camerasize, and used the S1 mount as size reference - sorry for the quality) and...looks like that it is even smaller than the GH5.

 

Holy shit, I thought that the scales were wrong, played with the file in Gimp but they are right.

Made a VERY crude size comparison with the GH5 (got a size comparison between the S1 and GH5 in Camerasize, and used the S1 mount as size reference - sorry for the quality) and...looks like that it is even smaller than the GH5.

 

Yep, got the leaked size / weight of the S5, compared to the GH5:

GH5 - 138.5x98.1x87.4 mm (camera body only, excluding protrusion) - weight 724 with battery and sd card), 645g body only
S5 - 132.6 x 97.1 x 81.9mm (excluding protrusions) - weight 714g (with battery and sd card), 630g body only

How these phones are working with other camera  / movie apps? And the stills raw modes?

Would love to see how they work using Filmic Pro.

Panasonic interview in Imaging Resource: https://www.imaging-resource.com/news/2020/08/20/panasonic-interview-covid-development-full-frame-micro-four-thirds

"Mr. Yamane: Yes, we believe L-mount is a highly optimum mount for video shooting. And so going forward, we'd like to make L-mount a standard of the video shooting industry. Within the alliance, we'd like to discuss how to strengthen our video performance, and make it a kind of a standard for the video shooting world.
DE: You hope L-mount could maybe become like the PL-mount, so very popular.
Mr. Yamane: Yes. Yeah, this is my personal hope, that L-mount could be the standard format for video shooting."

About m43:

"For telephoto or super-telephoto, maybe we should go with the Micro Four Thirds, which makes a more compact package with high-zoom. So we are studying the future development plan, including Micro Four Thirds."
"Mr. Yamane: We introduced the S-series of full-frame cameras, and we target high picture quality with the S-series. However, there is some video footage which only Micro Four Thirds can realize, in terms of optimum depth of field, mobility, zoom ratio and so on. So Micro Four Thirds is also a precious asset for us to cover video shooting needs. The GH-series has been already used by lots of videographers, and it is used for high-end video shooting by one-man operations. So without fail, by using the GH, customers can make very attractive footage using the characteristics of Micro Four Thirds. We are now studying how we are going to evolve GH series going forward, [to make the most of its advantages].
DE: Hai. (Yes)
Mr. Yamane: Thanks to Micro Four Thirds' smaller sensor size, it is good for high-speed response; high frame-rate video"

For me, looks like that video would be all in L-Mount, and m43 would be for niche formats.

(before calling me m43 hater - I ONLY have m43 cameras)

Unfortunately, maybe it is the case. In the stills foruns that I look, people are giving a damn about the issue and just wanting to know when they could buy it.

Only chance is a class action suit - japanese people do not like that kind of thing.

Unfortunately, maybe it is the case. In the stills foruns that I look, people are giving a damn about the issue and just wanting to know when they could buy it.

Only chance is a class action suit - japanese people do not like that kind of thing.

Hope that Andrew do a very good test with the AF. Still skeptical about the DFD - but if the somehow manage to make it work, it would be amazing.

One question about the DFD in L mount: it works with all L-mount lenses, or it is like in m4/3, that it only works with Panasonic lenses and not with Olympus ones?

"Não tem como" buy a Red camera in Brazil, with the import taxes and general vendors greed.

A Komodo will probably cost more than a full equipped SUV here.

Priest: "If any of you has a reason why these two should not be married, speak now or forever hold your peace." 

Film maker: "WAIT THIS PEACE OF SHIT IS OVERHEATING!"

Bride to groom: "See? I said to you to use a lighter fabric in your clothes"

Priest: "If any of you has a reason why these two should not be married, speak now or forever hold your peace." 

Film maker: "WAIT THIS PEACE OF SHIT IS OVERHEATING!"

Bride to groom: "See? I said to you to use a lighter fabric in your clothes"

Priest: "If any of you has a reason why these two should not be married, speak now or forever hold your peace." 

Film maker: "WAIT THIS PEACE OF SHIT IS OVERHEATING!"

Bride to groom: "See? I said to you to use a lighter fabric in your clothes"

Priest: "If any of you has a reason why these two should not be married, speak now or forever hold your peace." 

Film maker: "WAIT THIS PEACE OF SHIT IS OVERHEATING!"

Bride to groom: "See? I said to you to use a lighter fabric in your clothes"

Thanks for the offer @BTM_Pix, but have all of them here with me, hehehe - just don't have the time / skill to do a proper test (Covid + tons of work + baby in the house). Would be for stills, for instance - just to know the better one to bring in (future) trips. 

Have it, love it. Only problem - not always trivial to use a 150mm eq lens anywhere. 🙂

The 3 MFT lenses that, when I browse through my photos and find one that gets my attention, 90% of time was taken with the Oly 75mm 1.8, Oly 54mm 1.8 or the Panasonic 20mm 1.7.