Lars Steenhoff

10 hours ago, HockeyFan12 said:

I'm guessing that's a typo, a 2 instead of a 3.

Could be, did not think about that. 

Ok I will wait for the canon announcement before any conclusions.

I do want canon to make a nice 4k camera, because the autofocus is so good.

Ok now that the full specs are out 

here is answer to my question about how the "4k" is achieved

2840x2160

I don't know in what world this is 4k? 

clearly its not even 3k

https://t.co/Zj5WGS0KMg?amp=1

32.5mp APS-C Sensor

DIGIC 8

14fps

RAW burst to 30fps

Up to ISO 26500

Eye detect AF

AF capable down to -5 EV

4K video

FullHD at 120fps

Removeable OLED viewfinder

Read more: https://photorumors.com/2019/08/19/canon-eos-m6-mark-ii-and-canon-eos-90d-promo-videos-leaked-online/#ixzz5x552VOdJ

What does 4k though image processing mean canon?

Red does not need a patent to make the cameras.  so there will be no problem for red if they lose the patent, they can keep on making the same camera as they did before.

And they can keep making money.

Yes the 95 mb card is working fine for me, although I would not mind having a faster card, because there seems to be a little delay when I want to playback a picture just after taking it, as it needs to write to the card. ( using RAW + JPG fine )

What I can say about compressed raw is:  

Stills cameras had a form of compressed raw already before Red made it version.

https://www.photo.net/discuss/threads/raw-file-size-on-d70.95856/

I used to have a Nikon D70 and the Raw files were compressed.

So what I try to understand is what makes the compression on a series of stills at 24 frames per second so different than the single images?
It is the same single compressed frame just more of them.

So In my view the patent should not have been granted.  

only the compression algorithm could perhaps have been awarded a patent.
But if this was just a form of jpg2000 I don't see why they would even need to get a patent for that.

Canon is responsible for the security in the camera, you don't need to bring magic lantern into this because it has nothing to do with it. 

Internal compressed raw is patented by Red.

( I dont't know if it only applies to lossy or also lossless compressed )

Uncompressed raw is not patented, so Sigma can make the cinema dng uncompressed camera without patent violations.

The good thing about uncompressed is that right now storage is still expensive and we want compressed, in the future uncompressed will be wanted as storage will be cheap. and therefore we are now in  a transition period.

It still useful for stabilising in post

The S1 Does not have an anti alias filter, so naturally it is more prone to moire than cameras with that filter.

you get a slightly sharper image for it in return

Did you format the cards in the camera?

8 minutes ago, Mokara said:

Unlikely that most S1H buyers would take this instead. The S1H is a hybrid, the BM camera is not.

Its also a stills camera that shoots dng stills, just don't expect the autofocus to be great.

6k Ef mount ?

need an new speedbooster

yea sound is broken

something related to this?

https://fstoppers.com/opinion/blue-clipping-problem-you-probably-never-knew-existed-low-budget-cameras-325594

It could be the LUT that was used to get to rec 709?

Put it on youtube and monetise it with ads?

This video has 28 million views for example.

https://partnerhelp.netflixstudios.com/hc/en-us/articles/360000579527-Cameras-and-Image-Capture

I know the S1 is not approved for Netflix but it could be based on the requirements, it would have to be with an external recorder for the I frame codec and data rate requirement.

Camera Requirements

Please note, not all cameras that meet these requirements will be approved as primary cameras. These requirements are the minimum specifications necessary for consideration. Other attributes must be taken into account such as dynamic range, form factor, stability, workflow compatibility etc. 

Resolution Requirements:

Camera must have a true 4K UHD sensor (equal to or greater than 3840 photosites wide).

Capture Requirements:

Capture Format

RAW (Sony RAW, REDCODE, Arriraw etc.)

COMPRESSED (XAVC, ProRes, or other I-Frame capable formats)

Minimum of 16-bit Linear or 10-bit Log processing

Minimum data-rate of Bitrate of 240 Mbps at 23.98 fps 

Capture Transfer Function

S-Log3, Log-C, V-Log, Log3G10, etc.

Capture Color Space

S-Gamut3.cine, RED Wide Gamut RGB, Alexa Wide Gamut, etc.

No looks or color corrections should be baked into the original camera files.

Files must maintain all metadata (i.e. Tape Name, Timecode, Frame Rate, ISO, WB, etc.).

Anamorphic Lenses:

If anamorphic lenses are being considered, camera selection must take into account the extra resolution required for capture. Contact your Netflix project lead to discuss implications or concerns.

10 hours ago, funkyou86 said:

Question to S1 owners: does the S1 have HDMI lag like the GH5? 

Can't wait to receive mine...

Every hdmi connection has lag, don’t know how much compared to hg5

CVP may have been under the assumtion that is was 3 letters, I mean 3 characters also work, but the max is 8 as you can see in my screenshot.

More than 8 won't work.

some of those varicam names are too long, I tried them, no luck had to rename them to shorter ones.

If you can make the long ones work without renaming I will take back everything I said on this topic.

The good news is that they do work, because I have some of those loaded in the camera

8 minutes ago, Jimmy G said:

Thanks for looking into that, Lars, much appreciated! It seemed a little odd that Panasonic would have required something so strange as a "3-letter" naming scheme. Any chance you have a source (i.e. instruction page of some sort) where that information is posted?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/8.3_filename

Not directly from panasonic but its an old file standard.

8.3 filename for the luts

so 8 characters plus 3 for the .vlt extension

yes I understood it like that,  I did some test with Kodak stock and just normal vlog to rec 709 conversion and the green colours look more towards how it looks with our eyes.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/zea3apd5pscumks/FlowersV-log.mov?dl=0

Anyone who wants to have a go at grading I have here the Flowers video in  v-log pro res 422 HQ

No commercial use.