Lars Steenhoff

A monitor causes extra moire effects because of the pixel grid

Yes I ordered mine form Japan

Here's a shot mounted on the Leica SL

https://novoflexus.com/products/lens-adapters/for-leica-cameras/novoflex-let-cont.htm

8 hours ago, Andrew Reid said:

Try the old Canon 28-70mm F2.8 EF, it's parfocal and can be had for as little as £250

Best kept secret of the EF lenses this one is.

Yes its a nice lens the Canon but also 880 gram vs the 320 gram of the zeiss.

And zeiss is also parfocal.

I'm trying to make a travel kit, very lightweight for filming.

https://www.zeiss.com/content/dam/consumer-products/downloads/historical-products/photography/contax-yashica/en/datasheet-zeiss-vario-sonnar-35452870-en.pdf

yes I used it to film the moon yesterday, really nice quality the crop, and the fact that every prime lens become two focal lengths as you mentioned. 

I'm planning to get an old contax zeiss 28-70 f3.5-4.5 to get by with a small zoom lens, and also take a prime lens like the 45.

The sigma 24-70 2.8 is also good looking of you need autofocus and do also stills

What camera do you use?  

I have a mosaic filter for nikon that I don't use anymore

Thanks for the slim raw update, @cpc 

Interesting results, by the way I think you mean ISO 25600 and ISO 12800 instead of 256,000 and 128,000 right?

How did you measure when the fp clipped?  I think you could have exposed a stop more without breaking the highlights.   Maybe not but just a feeling

I made an extreme grade in Lightroom to see what information is in the shadows.

There seems a green tint on the sigma and a purple on the black magic

Also the black magic seems to be exposed different in Lightroom, not sure why this is.

Thanks for testing this !

Noise looks much more under control on the sigma

would you mind sharing a raw file of both cameras?

Not sure yet what to conclude on dynamic range

Some nice footage from 
PhotoLuxuria

Some footage of the fp and bmp4k

Looks good! 

Why would it be nuts to import as black magic film raw?

It's a flatter image in resolve than the rec709.  Please let me know your thoughts

And in stills mode with manual lenses the camera always shows a brighter preview than the actual shot image. and it adjust the exposure when it should not.  This seems like a bug

9 hours ago, seku said:

@Lars Steenhoff: thanks for the great footage you've shown here ?

How to say, i am still on the fence. as an ex-5dmk3 RAW user, now GH5... i am pondering if i should go S1H (with the awesome vlog/lut workflow (i love using false color luts for exposure on my gh5) ... or if i should return to a RAW workflow with the Sigma... both entice me. (i know i should just get both >.>)

I was wondering about colorspace. With 5kmk3 RAW, i used the cinelog LUT to conform ML RAW to cineon log in Resolve. Do we have any conforming LUTs for Sigma yet, or even better some ACES input transforms? or what is your workflow? ?

 

I just import with blackmagic film in resolve and try to get it look good from there. works well enough for me.

Its showing the ev numbers based on the raw, most camera's don't show the ev numbers in the spot meters center

Creative with optical effects

Nikon 50-300 ED ais f4.5

Its my favorite zoom lens, nice manual focus ring and on the sigma I have two lenses at apc, it becomes a 75- 450mm

( this was shot at apc )

Only downside is the minimum focus distance that is a bit far

No I did not have any problems with dynamic range

And make sure you set the bit depth to 14 for stills and 12 for cinema if you want to get the max out the camera.

This is a frame from a 12 bit cdng graded in photoshop. its shot trough a window and with a 30 year old lens.

Yes it works well for me.

But I don't use autofocus for video

I use the sigma 45 mm for stills and the autofocus is fine for that

I still would like to have a wideangle lens with autofocus in the same size of the 45 mm.

For video to not have to worry about in camera settings such as

white balance

sharpness

picture profile

is what makes this camera great for me.

I can put the sharpness in camera at +5 and get a clear picture for focussing

and later in resolve I set the dng sharpness to what I want.

The workflow with raw is very easy for me, I have realtime playback in resolve at 4k and even adding effects like filmconvert still play in realtime. ( I do have a radeon 7 that helps )

If you add a small hd oled, you also get your headphone output back

and the flipping screen

and the peaking and zebras at the same time

and lut support

Its what makes the camera complete for me.

Now I'm waiting for in camera playback and I'm all set

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12 bit data gives you 4096 discreet values, 1/15th of the values, a small fraction of what 16 bit has. ( 65,536 discreet values.)  This presents a problem as to record 14 stops with linear data you need more than 12 bits.

http://www.xdcam-user.com/2017/08/the-pros-and-cons-of-12-bit-linear-raw-or-recording-raw-to-s-log/

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The difference is in the way the data is encoded into 12 bits. Canon outputs 14bit data but it is linear. The human eye sees on a logarithmic scale, so this means that there's quite a bit of "wasted" precision on the high end. BM cameras output data on a logarithmic scale, so there's much less "wasted" bit depth, and so the cameras are making much "better" use of all the values that are possible to encode into 12 bits. You can think of this as a form of lossy compression, because truly that's what it is -> throwing out "unimportant" data so as to maximize the effective use of available space.

https://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=13825.msg133487#msg133487

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The bit depth of this conversion is what's being discussed in the video. This conversion is almost always going to involve some kind of logarithmic interpretation because even 14-bit RAW doesn't contain enough code values for linear encoding of 12 stops of dynamic range. On the video side of things there are only 2 recording formats that are truly linear, RED RAW and Sony RAW/X-OCN, which are 16-bit. Sony tried a 12-bit "linear" RAW which was underwhelming and required some pretty significant reallocation of bits to achieve.

https://fstoppers.com/photoshop/what-bit-depth-and-does-it-even-matter-423879#comment-542753

There is no plugin needed, resolve and adobe ACR open the files just fine. 

The problem is that in order to preserve the dynamic range from the sensor you should use linear 16 bit or non linear other formats. 14 bit linear is also good

but the others (12 bit, 10 bit, 8 bit ) should use a non linear way to preserve the highlights in the raw.

No lcd brightness is on manual and with a manual lens in m mode.

And exposure preview is on.

In cine mode the exposure is locked

In stills mode the exposure changes when pointing at different light levels