jase

@Andrew ReidLooking forward to your experiences and impressions of the footage.

4k/UHD video = 8MP stills which I think is perfectly fine even on a large screen at normal viewing distance.
One of my favourite photos (which other people have also liked) is only a 2MP JPEG, taken in 2015 with a Pana G6 while simultaneously recording FHD video. It's the light, shade and the sweep of the glinting rails that makes it work, not the resolution:

 

Yes. When starting I was afraid that 4k resolution would be too low and the workflow would be too cumbersome. Turns out the resolution is just fine for my purposes (watching content on smaller screens), has quite some headroom for zoom in. And although the framegrabbing workflow is a bit cumbersome, extracting the perfect frame in combination with 60p in 4k is awesome!

yep, that was me. long time GM1 and GX85 user. I think you might have meant this video:
good times.

tbh, after having played a bit with Apple Log I concluded for myself that 4k framegrabs are my new way of taking photos that are (for my hobbyish usage) good enough that my a7c stays at home all the time. It is not the most joyable shooting experience for sure and you really have to get close to get some DoF blur, but the quality and turnaround time is just.. perfect for me.

@jase   Didn't you also use to own a GX85 and a GM1 as well?:) I remember a beautiful GM1 nature video. I loved the colour signature of the GM1. It had some of the nicest 8bit lumix images i've seen on the web. I got myself a GM5 last year but I have not really used it unfortunately.

tbh, after having played a bit with Apple Log I concluded for myself that 4k framegrabs are my new way of taking photos that are (for my hobbyish usage) good enough that my a7c stays at home all the time. It is not the most joyable shooting experience for sure and you really have to get close to get some DoF blur, but the quality and turnaround time is just.. perfect for me.

tbh, after having played a bit with Apple Log I concluded for myself that 4k framegrabs are my new way of taking photos that are (for my hobbyish usage) good enough that my a7c stays at home all the time. It is not the most joyable shooting experience for sure and you really have to get close to get some DoF blur, but the quality and turnaround time is just.. perfect for me.

Hello everyone, I have owned Sigma fp for a year now, and I want to say that this camera will never cease to amaze and delight me. I am not professionally engaged in this video filming and in connection with this I would like to clarify something. In this video link below, I've interpreted the internal CDNG (12 bit), perhaps a little differently. And I know that from the point of view of the "science of color" this is not true. But I really liked the result. Trying to process the same files that Ryan Earl suggests (via CST in RED Log3G10) - I get a really accurate picture, but it does not convey a sense of color depth. Do I need to use additional presets after conversion?
Video here (Youtube)
 

Voigtländer 40mm 1.2@2.0 on Sony a6600

Voigtländer 40mm 1.2@2.0 on Sony a6600

I had this lens on my a7ii, sold the cam, kept the lens and made eventually the plunge back to Sony land because of that single lens - whenever i look at the images it produces I cant say something else than plain love 🥰
Since I am currently more a telephoto kind of guy, the equiv 60mm is ok for now. When i came back this weekend with my first shots with the voigt on the a6600 i was blown away by its sharpness - you really need to see the picture fullscreen to see the insane sharpness - the forum preview does a rather poor job. Quite some time ago that I was that blown away by gear as i am right now with this lens. Even when taking into consideration that this is just a 4k framegrab and not a photo!
Speaking of 40mm photos taken with this lens (again open in fullscreen):

 

I had this lens on my a7ii, sold the cam, kept the lens and made eventually the plunge back to Sony land because of that single lens - whenever i look at the images it produces I cant say something else than plain love 🥰
Since I am currently more a telephoto kind of guy, the equiv 60mm is ok for now. When i came back this weekend with my first shots with the voigt on the a6600 i was blown away by its sharpness - you really need to see the picture fullscreen to see the insane sharpness - the forum preview does a rather poor job. Quite some time ago that I was that blown away by gear as i am right now with this lens. Even when taking into consideration that this is just a 4k framegrab and not a photo!
Speaking of 40mm photos taken with this lens (again open in fullscreen):

 

Voigtländer 40mm 1.2@2.0 on Sony a6600

Voigtländer 40mm 1.2@2.0 on Sony a6600

This isn't going to sell the camera to anyone, but I will say, having completely written off the 8-bit raw before I even got the camera, I was intrigued by the article here to give it a go, and while you can't push the grade like you can with the 12-bit, having the benefit of being able to adjust the white balance after the fact is really great, and I'm totally sold on using the 8-bit. Just sucks that a fast UHS-II card with a fraction of the capacity is more expensive than a 500gb T5. (Or half-glass full, awesome that a T5 is cheaper than a fast UHS-II card with a fraction of the capacity!)
Shot with the Sigma MC-21and the Canon thrifty fifty (which is a horrible combination btw, the slowest focusing I've ever seen, they're both going back). Works great in manual. Looking forward to some stabilized L-Mounts.

The crop to my eye (not scientific) is about 1.2x or 1.3x crop in full frame mode with EIS activated. You also have an actual 4K Super 35mm crop mode as well (1.5x). You can only enable EIS in MOV 4K mode not Cinema DNG. When I use the Sigma 18-35mm F1.8 in full frame EIS mode, it still vignettes a bit in the corners at 18mm but fine at 35mm. You'd need to crop a bit more in post to get the wide end to look ok.

They are pretty good (particularly the 23mm and 11-23mm) but ridiculously expensive.
I have the 18-56mm and even as a used "bargain" it was the better part of £700.
£700 for a used f/3.5–5.6 zoom lens.
Its a good f/3.5–5.6 zoom lens of course but even so.
Sigma have their own APS-C L mounts on the way so I'd definitely hang on to have a look at those before committing.
If you are looking for small then I'd recommend going down the M mount route with an adapter as you'll get full frame coverage, fast apertures and very decent prices with the 3rd party brands like Voigtlander and 7Artisans.
Manual focus of course but looking at the AF performance on those Benny Hill reboot videos posted further up the thread its not that much of a loss to me 
 

No it is not. Application is top -> down, e.g. at the upper position the cineD to vlog LUT has to be put.

Camera showed up early! ? Feels good in hand

To be honest it's not even average.
You have to study a lot and most important see great videos and search the way they did those.
Catching a camera that is capable of decent to great image doesn't mean you are capable too.
Don't give up and keep going.
 
 

Long interview with Sigma coming up from me with Sam Smith, one of the UK guys who really knew his stuff on the video side.
Stay tuned.
Also this guy was there:

a tad offtopic, but I have to admit that the VLOGs of @DaveAltizer are one of the very few hat I really enjoy watching until the (suprisingly not so bitter VLOG) end. Top notch content!

a tad offtopic, but I have to admit that the VLOGs of @DaveAltizer are one of the very few hat I really enjoy watching until the (suprisingly not so bitter VLOG) end. Top notch content!

OK for @jase or anyone else who wants to prod about in a bit more of a structured manner on their Lumix device, I have just knocked up this rough and ready Lumix Video Format Explorer app for Android.

Usual story, attach your camera to your device over wifi and then open the app and hit the CONNECT button and your camera should clear its wifi screen and show that it is under remote control.
If you want to see if the 709Like profile works on your camera then just hit the 709Like button and see what happens. Certainly does nothing on the GX80 but it seems to on the GX9 so its worth a go on similar later cameras.
The next 4 buttons switch the video format of the camera and the MP4ED appears to populate the GX9 with additional options but again, nothing on the GX80.
Next up, we have the SELECT FORMAT button. When you press that, you get this list (which scrolls to several pages).

This is the list of every format returned from a probe of the GH5 so select the one you want to try and it will return you to the main screen with that one now shown in the blue banner beneath the SELECT FORMAT and SEND button.
Obviously to send the currently selected recording format you then hit SEND.
Beneath the blue banner are the PREVIOUS and NEXT buttons which will select the next recording format in the list and then automatically send it to the camera.
The reason for the two different methods is obviously so you can use the list selection to get to a specific one you want rather than scrolling through and the PREVIOUS/NEXT auto method is better for stepping through regions of formats (i.e just the AVCHD ones). 
Finally, the RECORD button is a bit self explanatory and switches between red and green depending on status.
The purpose of having the file name in the bigger banner is so that for testing you can point the camera at the phone (on a stand or propped up ideally) and then when you review the recorded file you will have a visual indicator of what file format you had told it to record in for easier confirmation.
If you send the camera some file formats it really doesn't like then certainly on the GX80 this can sometimes result it in de-populating its list inside the camera (i.e. you can select MP4 but there are no different formats listed) but this can easily be resolved by choosing a known working format from the list and sending it which will restore the list.
For the GX80 an example of this will be 
mp4_24p_100mbps_4k
As this contains the full list of all 202 GH5 format variants, I'd probably say this is the definitive last hurrah for anyone trying to find any hidden type inside their Lumix cameras and is obviously fastest and the most structured way to do it so will be less painful than having to paste hundreds of commands into a browser.
I think that this will be more fruitful for the latter cameras based on what seems to be happening with the GX9 so if you have one of those then using this you might be able to find more gold with that one a bit quicker.
Also, if you come across someone with an LX100 Mark 2 then this app will let us quickly establish if there is anything in there as I now have a sneaking feeling there might be.
Usual caveats regarding use of this app is that it doesn't send any commands other than those sent by the Panasonic app but obviously use of it is at your own risk.
Your Android device should auto install the attached apk file when you download it but make sure you have your security settings set to allow installation of apps from “Unknown sources“.
LumixVideoFormats.apk