Emanuel

Those are some serious images in the video above.
If the Pocket is anything like the URSA Mini Pro it will be a treat.

The Ultra uses a significantly better optical design, with very high MTF and insignificant corner falloff.  As a result, the Ultra will sharpen up any lens that is attached to it, including the Zeiss Otus series.  Below is a very detailed MTF comparison of the original M43 Speed Booster, the Ultra, and the XL.  The XL is also very sharp, but is a little more specialized than the Ultra.
 

You shoot raw.
No over processing, because raw isn't processed.
The JPEGs are fine for social media use... But overcooked.

Apparently there is no OIS on the main camera and EIS is only supported up to 1080p30.  While you could take a crop of the 4k video, theis seems limiting for out of the camera footage. 

You have to persevere and look past the AI and JPEGs. Seems I gotta keep saying it... shoot 40MP raw and not the 10MP JPEGs, but I would think that would be obvious, especially when it's the main selling point of the phone, it happens in built in camera app, no third party app required, and it's fast to save a shot, less than 1 second in fact, which is amazing considering the resolution.
Here is the iPhone X vs P20 Pro RAW. Click for full size...
iPhone X

P20 Pro DNG

Until now phones have seen little benefit to their raw modes, with perhaps Samsung being best of the raw bunch. iPhone X and Google Pixel XL actually take a step backwards in raw, especially in low light.
As for video, yes iPhone X is much better.
200% blow up of 100% crops...
P20 Pro

iPhone X

iPhone is Chinese. 
I have the original One Plus One (cheap Chinese) and while I've moved on to a Samsung, the one plus is still going strong and I use it when I travel OS. 

You can order one, but the cool dude with the Ferrari and sunglasses won't tell you the price.
The comment threads on Newsshooter are awesome, the exact opposite of what someone trying to break into a highly competitive market should be doing. He should sell the Ferrari and hire someone to handle the PR/marketing.
Chris

My Gosh.......Cinemartin make me laugh like never other camera company did.....Amazing!!!!

40MP RAW
Quad Bayer is the future... It has dynamic range like I've never seen from a small sensor.
Completely and utterly destroys iPhone X camera, which I had been very satisfied with.
Proof coming soon

Redid the whole colorgrading process in ACES after some tests. Way cleaner than any LUT based workflow in REC709 colorspace I used before!
This is how the movie will look like:
 

Wow, this is probably the best looking GH5 footage that I have seen and yes this is definitely better than the original... and that looked great as well.
You’re obviously a very talented and skilled operator and colorist but even with my limited talent and skill, this makes me think that maybe I discounted the GH5 too soon. 

Always Already
Emotive Color 'Verde' v2.2 No color grading whatsoever All-I 2K (24p 180d) One Lens: Nikkor 35mm f2 Ai (couple shots in ETC mode) Entirely using sunny WB preset (except Tungsten shots at end), no WB correction in post *For Color Accuracy - Please watch in Microsoft Edge, Explorer, Safari, or Chrome (Mac Edition Only) - *Avoid Firefox! (Or download 'Original' file for total fidelity)
 

 

and here is a complete work (some art event deep inside russian territory):
 

I concur Jon's comments. Kudos to Vasha : ) Not only night footage (to prove with the right settings, this camera can be a low light killer : P) but also daily footage. To those used to bash this wonderful piece of technology to infer it as too videoish, here you have what a pilot or competent shooter means. Coupled to the proper glass under control to know the limits of your acquisition tool, why do we need another capture device BTW?  ; )
@webrunner5 you are on the spot, Don... my 8 years of Montenegro can only confirm you that : -)

That is a LOT of money for a cage for a cheap camera LoL. Nearly half the price of the camera!
http://www.8sinn.com/index.php/supported-cameras/blackmagic-pocket-cinema-camera-4k/8sinn-bm-pocket-cinema-camera-4k-cage-top-handle-pro.html

Funny how the cost of a camera warps the expectation of the price of accessories.
JB

Well I was being a little hyperbolic but anonim went from one side of the spectrum stating that Grant Petty is an honorable man that wouldn’t risk his reputation to saying BM has too much of a bad track record to be trusted...
But yeah, nothing is wrong with criticism or skepticism... I am skeptical of this camera. Actually I have two fears that are completely opposite scenarios... on one hand I am afraid that this camera’s use of this sensor is giving a lot of people false expectations that cannot be lived up to. But on the other hand, I really hope this isn’t a generic, vanilla camera that lacks the edgy, indie film look that was so beautiful in the first Pocket...
I guess we’ll know soon enough. 

If the C500 is not enough camera for you, it’s worth considering that perhaps the camera is not actually the issue. After all, if it’s good enough for a major motion picture... and with that said I as high a hopes as I have for the P4k, I’m not expecting it to live up to a C500. Just keeping it real.
 

I don't see a problem with the way this discussion has evolved. It has naturally evolved to what it is based on the lack of new info on the Pocket. Let's not be so militant that natural conversation be stifled for needing to start new threads for each and every little tangent that a conversation might go on. I see JB as a BMD ambassador so his input is highly valued here. 

Yes.
And a privilege to read.

Seems fair enough to me at least : )
 
@David, pops to my mind one of my fav quotes if not my dearest one:
«The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth.» ~ Niels Bohr
 
E : -)

If Blackmagic made a native MFT version of the 4.6K camera you realise that you could NEVER shoot at published maximum resolution of 4.6K unless you DON'T use an MFT mount lens ?
The other examples you make all go the other way.  You're windowing down for video from a stills camera.
This is a cinema camera that can never shoot the full 4.6K sensor UNLESS you DON'T use a native lens. That means you HAVE to adapt it to get the full sensor.
Which is what the JVC did as well.
The very fact it's so often brought up AND YET never seemingly used on anything of note is the point I make.
You bring up a great point with yet another closed proprietary Sony only mount... the FZ mount.  Let's look at the price of of some FZ adaptors that keep the electronic connections so we can use lens metadata, or power IS and iris control.
(FZ by the way is Son'y cinema version of E mount)
Here's the one that Sony make to go to PL.  I presume this is the most robust mechanically and reliable.
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1053116-REG/sony_lafzpl12p_pl_to_sony_fz_mount.html
And some other after market ones...EF mount
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1173012-REG/optitek_cpli_fz3_prolock_i_electronic_lens.html?ap=y&gclid=CjwKCAjw4PHZBRA-EiwAAas4Zo9CR_3OYgnWusLKLjNus5ImW7Nvf11fa1DTtfhWUCpiEhCiMKQKeRoCK7wQAvD_BwE&smp=y
https://www.adorama.com/kaelafzeos.html
What we want is to adapt any lens to a camera.
What we need is a mount that allows this with a short enough FFD and that's mechanically stable enough to be used reliably for anyone that can afford a $1200 camera.
Sony E / FZ and MFT are just a way to get to that want because we can do it through adaptors.
The fundamental problem is that it's EXPENSIVE to make this kind of functionality in what is a consumer priced product that 99% of those consumers don't want or need or even know about and might also potentially screw their camera up if it wasn't done well enough and failed at doing it's core job.  
JB
 
 
 

Well... since it is fairly likely that JB will be providing some of the long awaited footage for the P4K, I think it probably makes sense that people get to know his background and thoughts on filmmaking and gear. 
Would you rather we discuss the pointless desire for AF in the P4K? Or if only the P4K would add IBIS to the specs? Or maybe we can keep wondering if we’ll need IR filtration (or ignoring that we probably will) Or I guess we can add some ad hominem questions regarding what cards we can use with the P4K or which is the best M4/3 lens to use with it...
In life, conversations evolve... why can’t discussions on forums do the same?

I knew it!  The A7SIII will shoot MEDIUM FORMAT 8K RAW!!!
....the delays in announcing are just them working out how to stop it catching fire ????