Emanuel

Yes. I saw your video on YouTube. We've got pretty much the same lenses, minus the 10mm fisheye and the 50mm. Today, there was new firmware (version 4). Also, I installed Labs; so, I'm curious to see the improvements, especially for photos as it was seriously lacking.

@kye
As promised, here’s the video I mentioned over in the Narrative Films Shot in Uncontrolled Cities thread. I put together what I call my Mission Kit for the ILS, consisting of the Brightin Star 10mm fisheye, 7Artisans 10mm, TTArtisan 17mm, and the 7Artisans 25mm, 35mm and 50mm. The idea was to keep everything small, lightweight and affordable while still getting a very good image. The video is just a collection of footage shot with the different lenses, with each lens identified on screen. It’s not technical at all and it’s very casual. I’m just showing what these little lenses can do with the ILS. 
 

It’s a real fun camera to use. It actually brought my muscle memory back to the days of manual focusing. I remember when people used to talk condescendingly to people who relied on autofocus. Now it’s flipped. So funny. The  negative comments I read about using this camera is mind boggling. If the camera isn’t for you, just go about your business. Why try to bash the person wanting to experience something different? 

Went for a walk this morning. I was able to make a short video:
Sorry for the music. Everything is hand-held. Shot it at various frame rates. Most everthing shot in GoPro Log 2 (the slow-mo shots are in Natural) and plopped into a timeline for cutting and added FilmConvert with the GoPro Mission 1 Pro and GoPro Log 2 profile. No grain was applied. Anyway, you'll get an idea of the colors, electronic stab, etc.
I also wanted to say that I was able to update the ILS to the GoPro Labs firmware and use a QR code for putting a super-helpful histogram (better than the Lumix one on the GX800).

Maybe late to the party..
Left-Handed Girl is maybe the latest film completely shot in the wild (and with a phone)
 
 

This is exactly why smartphones and smaller cameras like the GoPro Mission 1 Pro ILS are so appealing to me. You can move quickly, stay discreet, and still capture great images. I put together a great nimble kit for this project and I’m actually planning something similar with the ILS in NYC, grabbing shots in some premium locations to give the production a much bigger feel without a big crew or footprint. And I’m definitely grabbing some long and discreet shots. 

Love your insights, you should post more :- )

Love your insights, you should post more :- )

I'm at a point where I ALMOST see no point in shooting log profiles. There are a few good ones, but most require more grading after a utility LUT is applied and/or creates scenarios where everybody's footage looks pretty much exactly the same.
So if you're just slapping on a LUT and calling it a day, for 9 out of 10 shots, you could just use a standard rec709 picture profile and get similar results.
With the advent of 10bit video, in recent years, most standard picture profiles look even better than they ever have with thicker color and near perfect skintones. Sure there are instances when you may need the extra stop or two of dynamic range a Log profile offers, or a specific LUT gets you a relatively quick look by shooting Log, but again... 9 out of 10 times, a slightly tweaked Rec709 picture profile will end up looking better and get you there so much easier without worrying about CSTs and color pipelines... especially since damn near ever Log profile is just trying to emulate Arri LogC which in turn was designed to emulate film.
Speaking of, I have the Arri LogC3 software key on my GH6 and it's pretty good... better than vLog but it's still noisy as hell with ugly chroma noise in the midtones and shadows so I recently went back to CineLikeD and V and I am back to making a couple contrast and saturation adjustments and being happy with it. I'm sure there is a slight hit in DR, but nothing so drastic that I'm surprised or wish I shot in Log instead.
So Log is cool, I'm glad it's available, but it's fairly unnecessary in most situations and can cause a bigger headache.

Great piece of tech, both ; )
Irresistible. Love the colours.

How and where to find the respective builds/updates?

I've been troubleshooting this new EOS-M build with Claude, and I think it's finally stable enough to share here.
So, what is it? The "FilmGate" Build for the Canon EOS-M is an experimental remix of Amit Kattal's incredible Slim GUI build, designed for people who want to shoot raw video with framing based on real motion picture film formats. FilmGate offers:
• Six film presets: Academy 35mm, A35 Anamorphic, Super 16, 16mm, Super 8, and Regular 8, with crop options including 16:9, 1.85:1, and 2.35:1.
• B&W Preview Option: Displays the liveview in black and white on the LCD and HDMI output (recorded footage remains in color).
• 18fps: Available for S8 and 8mm presets
• 1080i HDMI: The camera stays locked at 1080i output for easier monitoring.
• Streamlined menus: Removes or hides several less commonly used options.
CREDITS
This build is based on the work of many Magic Lantern contributors, including (but not limited to) A1ex, Danne, Bilal, and Amit. None of this would have been possible without them.
I am not a developer and this build contains a substantial amount of AI generated code. It is therefore not intended for inclusion in any of the main Magic Lantern builds, in accordance with the Magic Lantern LLM policy.
IMPORTANT
This experimental build is only for the Canon EOS M running firmware 2.0.2. It has not been thoroughly tested yet. Expect bugs and glitches. Try at your own risk!
Latest: https://github.com/shaneintherain/Crop-mood-eosm-filmgate/releases/

I think only in the FB page. Here was the introductory post:
I've tried it and it impressed me enough to use as the basis for my own build.
This is moving fast though. Someone has already remixed the build I posted earlier today.

Thanks!
 
Will try this at my earliest opportunity.  Please update with any new builds.
 
Is there more info anywhere on the Amit Kattal builds other than the github page?

Great piece of tech, both ; )
Irresistible. Love the colours.

Damn. After playing with the 7artisan 10mm, this camera looks so good. The electronic IBIS is working wonderfully and you don't hear any audio weirdness like with normal IBIS sometimes. The colors when you put the Log into FilmConvert are great IMO.


About the 10mm, it's not perfect. For starters, there was quite a bit of play in the mount. I fixed it with a little electrical tape. However, it's super easy to focus and quite fun. The image seems quite sharp too.

Y’all have to ask for a paycheck, ’cause I’ll end up buying this one, it’s almost impossible not to... :- )

Y’all have to ask for a paycheck, ’cause I’ll end up buying this one, it’s almost impossible not to... :- )

I did a few more tests this morning. I wanted to check the 4K IQ, and I tried everything I could to induce moiré, but to no avail. I scrutinized the Red, Green, and Blue channels as well, and the results were impressive. I'm fairly certain it's due to the image processing because it blows away the already respectable 4K image from my Panasonic GX800.
And all of my tests were done with HyperSmooth on; it only gets better with it off.
I also tried my Konica 300mm f/4.5 on a tripod in 8K. I'm not sure there's much point in using 8K for distant landscapes, but for closer subjects, why not? I still think 4K looks just as good.
One thing this camera is not is a 1080p camera. IMO, they should let us use 10-bit in 1080p, but they don't. Also, when you switch to 1080p, it changes the color profile too. You have to go back and reset it when you resume shooting in 4K or 8K.
I think I'll just stay away from the 1080p modes unless I really need the 480fps and up.

If this camera lacks a mechanical shutter, the Metabones BMPCC 0.64X speed booster is an obvious choice (as long as it doesn't hit the sensor filter).
Also, the excellent Meike M4/3 cinema line that bottoms-out at 8mm is worth consideration.  Meike has still versions of these lenses, but they seem to be the same price as the cinema versions.
I only wish this camera had a way to sync strobes.

Very soft but cool none the less!

Well, for rigging it, maybe. The camera is just so small and the mount isn't supposed to have more than a 250g lens on it. Those Meike lenses are 540g at a minimum.
And just to clarify, I really don't see the ILS as a photo-first camera, unless you're taking 8k screen grabs. The interface sucks for the most part too with only 2 physical buttons and a tiny LCD (albeit decent). You don't even get a histogram out of the box- they need to fix that.

Here's what Mathieu Stern had to say about his experience:
 

Honestly i thought i was generalizing, i don't believe i was accusing you of piracy. Apologies to you, if you thought that. 
Well not a music concert but we just had kylie Minogue do the half time entertainment at the afl grand final. I would expect out of the 100 000 crowd probably 95000 filmed that section with their smart phones. I doubt any of them would be accredited, I would have too, if i'd been there... 🥰 Hopefully the emoji displays properly as i been having issues with those little suckers..
I presume there would be licencing agreements and financial arrangements between the afl and tv stations about video copyright. I suppose neither group like the idea of having potentially a 100 000 smart phones or a smaller amount of cameras at the event but there's probably not much that can be done about it within reason. I could certainly see them getting agitated at someone wandering in with a 600mm lens without prior arrangement and i don't have a problem with that. I suspect a 600mm lens comes under "professional use" rather normal use or casual use. 
Personally i can see three use cases, for cameras at events, maybe you can think of more.
1) I can show my friends and family without issue that i was there having a good time
2) I could take a ten second selfie of my ugly mug and a very small pixelated kylie strutting her stuff in the background for a vlog, again no real issues. 
3) I could conceivably somehow sneak a small monopod, a modern mirrorless camera with two forms of stabilization and a 10 times zoom and have at it, without paying a large chunk of money to either company and reproducing it on my social medium of choice.
How to make money out of it, i have no idea. Maybe its not about the money, it could be the likes i guess or even giving the finger to the establishment. What people do and why, continues to amaze me at times.
But i think we could both agree, due to intent, option 3 is wrong (probably on many levels)
Initially i read this and had no idea what you were alluding to. Blame linguistics. semantics, continental drift..  In hindsight i missed the emoji as it didn't display for me properly, i now suspect what you said was tongue in cheek, it seems i misunderstood your meaning and jumped to the wrong conclusion, which may have led to the piracy issue you raised, sorry about that.  
Any time there is money involved or to be made, people are going to get antsy if they think their missing out.
I suspect if you hosted an event free or otherwise and were the only person organised to cover that event and expected a financial return from publishing online and i rock up with my 8k gopro on a gimbal and wave it around and you find my video online for a small fee or even free later that evening, you'd be a little agitated, your not going to give me a medal.
 

Emanuel, I've been on many concerts 🙂 Mostly rock, pop groups and individual performers. 🙂
More or less concept is the same as Sony maybe Honor has a better implementation.
IMHO it will have low market demand. I am motioncam user and visit their community forum from time to time. How many members do you think this forum has ?
It recently crossed the 10K mark. More than half of the people who bought the application will run a few test clips and forget about it. Let's assume it has 10K active users or 3x this number. It is still a tiny number compared to the billions of smartphones sold per year. While the economics work for the application and team of 2 people I doubt it will work for the design and production of an add on module + related application and software that can be used only with specific smartphone model.  Smarthones are primarily communication devices, then cameras. It doesn't make sense to spend 2000 Euro for a smartphone only because of a particular camera module or add on. 1000 Euro for a phone with decent cameras + 1000 Euro for a better cameras with interchangeable lenses makes more sense. Again IMHO those add on camera / lenses, telephoto lenses, robot phones, they will not last long. We'll see. Let us know if you buy this particular smartphone / camera.