Emanuel

Great piece of tech, both ; )
Irresistible. Love the colours.

How and where to find the respective builds/updates?

I've been troubleshooting this new EOS-M build with Claude, and I think it's finally stable enough to share here.
So, what is it? The "FilmGate" Build for the Canon EOS-M is an experimental remix of Amit Kattal's incredible Slim GUI build, designed for people who want to shoot raw video with framing based on real motion picture film formats. FilmGate offers:
• Six film presets: Academy 35mm, A35 Anamorphic, Super 16, 16mm, Super 8, and Regular 8, with crop options including 16:9, 1.85:1, and 2.35:1.
• B&W Preview Option: Displays the liveview in black and white on the LCD and HDMI output (recorded footage remains in color).
• 18fps: Available for S8 and 8mm presets
• 1080i HDMI: The camera stays locked at 1080i output for easier monitoring.
• Streamlined menus: Removes or hides several less commonly used options.
CREDITS
This build is based on the work of many Magic Lantern contributors, including (but not limited to) A1ex, Danne, Bilal, and Amit. None of this would have been possible without them.
I am not a developer and this build contains a substantial amount of AI generated code. It is therefore not intended for inclusion in any of the main Magic Lantern builds, in accordance with the Magic Lantern LLM policy.
IMPORTANT
This experimental build is only for the Canon EOS M running firmware 2.0.2. It has not been thoroughly tested yet. Expect bugs and glitches. Try at your own risk!
Latest: https://github.com/shaneintherain/Crop-mood-eosm-filmgate/releases/

I think only in the FB page. Here was the introductory post:
I've tried it and it impressed me enough to use as the basis for my own build.
This is moving fast though. Someone has already remixed the build I posted earlier today.

Thanks!
 
Will try this at my earliest opportunity.  Please update with any new builds.
 
Is there more info anywhere on the Amit Kattal builds other than the github page?

Great piece of tech, both ; )
Irresistible. Love the colours.

Damn. After playing with the 7artisan 10mm, this camera looks so good. The electronic IBIS is working wonderfully and you don't hear any audio weirdness like with normal IBIS sometimes. The colors when you put the Log into FilmConvert are great IMO.


About the 10mm, it's not perfect. For starters, there was quite a bit of play in the mount. I fixed it with a little electrical tape. However, it's super easy to focus and quite fun. The image seems quite sharp too.

Y’all have to ask for a paycheck, ’cause I’ll end up buying this one, it’s almost impossible not to... :- )

Y’all have to ask for a paycheck, ’cause I’ll end up buying this one, it’s almost impossible not to... :- )

I did a few more tests this morning. I wanted to check the 4K IQ, and I tried everything I could to induce moiré, but to no avail. I scrutinized the Red, Green, and Blue channels as well, and the results were impressive. I'm fairly certain it's due to the image processing because it blows away the already respectable 4K image from my Panasonic GX800.
And all of my tests were done with HyperSmooth on; it only gets better with it off.
I also tried my Konica 300mm f/4.5 on a tripod in 8K. I'm not sure there's much point in using 8K for distant landscapes, but for closer subjects, why not? I still think 4K looks just as good.
One thing this camera is not is a 1080p camera. IMO, they should let us use 10-bit in 1080p, but they don't. Also, when you switch to 1080p, it changes the color profile too. You have to go back and reset it when you resume shooting in 4K or 8K.
I think I'll just stay away from the 1080p modes unless I really need the 480fps and up.

If this camera lacks a mechanical shutter, the Metabones BMPCC 0.64X speed booster is an obvious choice (as long as it doesn't hit the sensor filter).
Also, the excellent Meike M4/3 cinema line that bottoms-out at 8mm is worth consideration.  Meike has still versions of these lenses, but they seem to be the same price as the cinema versions.
I only wish this camera had a way to sync strobes.

Very soft but cool none the less!

Well, for rigging it, maybe. The camera is just so small and the mount isn't supposed to have more than a 250g lens on it. Those Meike lenses are 540g at a minimum.
And just to clarify, I really don't see the ILS as a photo-first camera, unless you're taking 8k screen grabs. The interface sucks for the most part too with only 2 physical buttons and a tiny LCD (albeit decent). You don't even get a histogram out of the box- they need to fix that.

Here's what Mathieu Stern had to say about his experience:
 

Honestly i thought i was generalizing, i don't believe i was accusing you of piracy. Apologies to you, if you thought that. 
Well not a music concert but we just had kylie Minogue do the half time entertainment at the afl grand final. I would expect out of the 100 000 crowd probably 95000 filmed that section with their smart phones. I doubt any of them would be accredited, I would have too, if i'd been there... 🥰 Hopefully the emoji displays properly as i been having issues with those little suckers..
I presume there would be licencing agreements and financial arrangements between the afl and tv stations about video copyright. I suppose neither group like the idea of having potentially a 100 000 smart phones or a smaller amount of cameras at the event but there's probably not much that can be done about it within reason. I could certainly see them getting agitated at someone wandering in with a 600mm lens without prior arrangement and i don't have a problem with that. I suspect a 600mm lens comes under "professional use" rather normal use or casual use. 
Personally i can see three use cases, for cameras at events, maybe you can think of more.
1) I can show my friends and family without issue that i was there having a good time
2) I could take a ten second selfie of my ugly mug and a very small pixelated kylie strutting her stuff in the background for a vlog, again no real issues. 
3) I could conceivably somehow sneak a small monopod, a modern mirrorless camera with two forms of stabilization and a 10 times zoom and have at it, without paying a large chunk of money to either company and reproducing it on my social medium of choice.
How to make money out of it, i have no idea. Maybe its not about the money, it could be the likes i guess or even giving the finger to the establishment. What people do and why, continues to amaze me at times.
But i think we could both agree, due to intent, option 3 is wrong (probably on many levels)
Initially i read this and had no idea what you were alluding to. Blame linguistics. semantics, continental drift..  In hindsight i missed the emoji as it didn't display for me properly, i now suspect what you said was tongue in cheek, it seems i misunderstood your meaning and jumped to the wrong conclusion, which may have led to the piracy issue you raised, sorry about that.  
Any time there is money involved or to be made, people are going to get antsy if they think their missing out.
I suspect if you hosted an event free or otherwise and were the only person organised to cover that event and expected a financial return from publishing online and i rock up with my 8k gopro on a gimbal and wave it around and you find my video online for a small fee or even free later that evening, you'd be a little agitated, your not going to give me a medal.
 

Emanuel, I've been on many concerts 🙂 Mostly rock, pop groups and individual performers. 🙂
More or less concept is the same as Sony maybe Honor has a better implementation.
IMHO it will have low market demand. I am motioncam user and visit their community forum from time to time. How many members do you think this forum has ?
It recently crossed the 10K mark. More than half of the people who bought the application will run a few test clips and forget about it. Let's assume it has 10K active users or 3x this number. It is still a tiny number compared to the billions of smartphones sold per year. While the economics work for the application and team of 2 people I doubt it will work for the design and production of an add on module + related application and software that can be used only with specific smartphone model.  Smarthones are primarily communication devices, then cameras. It doesn't make sense to spend 2000 Euro for a smartphone only because of a particular camera module or add on. 1000 Euro for a phone with decent cameras + 1000 Euro for a better cameras with interchangeable lenses makes more sense. Again IMHO those add on camera / lenses, telephoto lenses, robot phones, they will not last long. We'll see. Let us know if you buy this particular smartphone / camera.

Nothing new under the sun. Sony tried this concept 13 years ago with Sony DSC-QX100 and Sony DSC-QX10. It didn't work / sell well. 
Maybe their implementation was not good, maybe smartphones were not fast enough or price was too high. I somehow doubt it will work now.  
99.9 percent of the people are quite happy with the cameras on their smartphones. Those who want something more are a tiny minority and they have plenty of other toys to play with. So again I doubt this will sell. Same as those telephoto 300mm,400mm  and more add on lenses. Who the heck needs those ? Bird shooters, sports shooters ? They are a tiny minority of a tiny minority and they will buy a mirrorless camera for those tasks. Smartphone manufacturers will soon realize they waist time and money. 
I am quite happy that we now have :
    1. RAW video and basically great video IQ from smartphones with 3rd party applications
    2. Finally one company broke the mold and produced a flagship smartphone with 35mm focal lenght main camera

…according to the smoke signals coming from the Dolomites.
It isn’t the successor to the S1H, but what remains to be seen…
Options:
A. A bit too soon for an S9II surely?
B. A photo-oriented version though maybe?
C. A new Sigma, next gen FP/L? With a faster sensor, tilt screen and IBIS, that would be ossum.
D. A Leica ‘Q3’ with interchangeable lens mount?
E. DJI enters the arena with a non gimbal, non flying camera?
Speculate below!

The tagline needs to be, “make a movie while looking like a tourist”.
From what I saw, the quality (in the right hands) is pretty insane.
My own iPhone 13 Pro is getting close to retirement and probably will be replaced in 2027…

The things that impress me most about this camera are the frame rates and processing. In addition, it’s so damn small and light. I purchased it, and it’ll be here tomorrow.
I’ve seen both super positive and super negative opinions about it, but it really does feel like a new category. I have a few assumptions about it, though: I think it will be a stellar performer when it comes to moiré and rolling shutter. It’s also going to be pricey to get wide, sharp lenses for it.
That’s why I plan on using it with my S9. I feel like they could complement each other well. I’ll definitely be playing around with it over the next few days.

GoPro ILS vs BMPCC OG...  not a completely scientific test, but lots of shots in different scenes, so a good real-world comparison.
 

If you're going to get an ARRI phone, why wouldn't you get one with a built-in gimbal?
 

Guess they figured the RED camera went over so well that they should make one themselves!  🤣

More here, there and also over there to include the new 200mm & 500mm teleconverters.
 
E. ;- )

For me, 6K is ideal - I don't lose detail when reframing and even with some denoising, a lot of the fine detail sticks around.  Really, for anything from 4K through 8K, it's fine for me.  4K just means I have to be more careful with my frame and 8K means using a bit more disk space (which I have plenty of for now, hope hard drive prices come down someday, though).
But yeah, the frame rates are fantastic.  They're one of the big reasons that Camera Conspiracies loves his M1P ILS so much.