wondo

if andrew is right, the big question that remains is why did they do it??? and why did they do it in such an excessive way?
if the camera had a hardware flaw and they would do a lot of pr to downplay it i would totally understand that.
but crippling a camera by firmware to a point where it becomes unusable does not make any sense.
limiting it to protect cinema eos sales?, ok, limiting it to protect sales of the next model?, ok, but totally ruining it?
development of this thing must have cost tons of money, and even if they wanted to protect cinema eos sales, there is still a bit of math do be done to understand whether this is reasonable by any means.
cinema eos cams are pretty much a niche product and i don`t see why they would protect them at such a high cost?
andrews findings are shocking, and if true, i`d really like to know the reason they did it?
there are a lot of statements on here about how much of a scandal this is and how bad canon is behaving, and given the fact that canon is not a chinese two man brand run by lunatics makes me even more eager to get to know the "mechanics" behind this...

i think there`s a guy above the r5 AND cinema eos guys, and he surely owns a pocket calculator.
canon is a company that is on the stock market and that rules out that decisions are made just because somebody is too proud or too vain. 

i think there`s a guy above the r5 AND cinema eos guys, and he surely owns a pocket calculator.
canon is a company that is on the stock market and that rules out that decisions are made just because somebody is too proud or too vain. 

problem solved! 🙂

you just need to cut your nostril hair before using the viewfinder!!

two things really puzzle me when i read through these posts.
a: i don`t think anyone is forced to buy this camera but a lot of the posts read like people already did and now live in a constant nightmare.
b: from looking at the whole thing it does not seem like canon is trying to keep the issue under wraps, they gave pretty honest info about it, so where`s the scandal? of course they aimed for the middle ground like any other company would do.
canon took a big gamble to have 8k on the box just in time before the olympics. well, the olympics are called off and canon has to deal with quite a mess. question is, was it worth it?.
we all know that there is no "ultimate review" that is right about everything, answers all questions, and is totally unbiased.
and it should be common knowledge that you need to read a lot of them and then take home the pieces of info that concern you. and right now there are not enough reviews out to get a clear image.

problem solved 🙂
 

The good news is that we aren't being forced into buying their cameras. We have choices. This is going to backfire on Canon big time.
 
 

two things really puzzle me when i read through these posts.
a: i don`t think anyone is forced to buy this camera but a lot of the posts read like people already did and now live in a constant nightmare.
b: from looking at the whole thing it does not seem like canon is trying to keep the issue under wraps, they gave pretty honest info about it, so where`s the scandal? of course they aimed for the middle ground like any other company would do.
canon took a big gamble to have 8k on the box just in time before the olympics. well, the olympics are called off and canon has to deal with quite a mess. question is, was it worth it?.
we all know that there is no "ultimate review" that is right about everything, answers all questions, and is totally unbiased.
and it should be common knowledge that you need to read a lot of them and then take home the pieces of info that concern you. and right now there are not enough reviews out to get a clear image.

quick question... where do you guys watch 8k material? or even 4k?

so i would have to pay for a 12k camera just to get insanely sharp 4k images and then put a shitload of filters on the lens, and probably a net on the back, just to get nice cinematic images?
this is nuts!

who needs this? and why??

These days im not sure what the future of camera tech should be like. I dont even need 4k, sometimes I think ibis can come in handy, but then you see some wobbly images and I change my mind instantly. For cinema uses there isnt a need for more iso options iso 800 is great. I guess most cameras have decent DR nowadays. AF is cool for gimbal work and one man band kinda jobs, but for cinema it doesnt look it will ever come. The alexa does still looks the most amazing, and thats a 10 year old sensor. So maybe the future of filmmaking lies in the innovation of lighting. Aputure set a great example in modular lighting and arri followed suit. But I guess prices and current led tech isnt quite there yet for the masses.

andrew,
forget about that paycheck argument, and any "proof" about being a pro cinematographer or not. you can not measure this way.
i always worshipped your honest opinion, and an emotional outburst just proofs that there`s a human being behind all of this, that does not write reviews on his pocket calculator. admitting that you went a little over the top just underlines that.
another big plus for you.
the PR machinery has chewed up a lot of unbiased coverage these days and i never know wether all the praise was bought or is true. except on eoshd!
for me the latest canon coverage was the final nail in that coffin, how can anyone with a sound mind write something positive about this thing? well, you probably can if you`ve been to hawaii...
and what`s the use of that BM event (for us readers) without any attendee being allowed to shoot a single frame himself? what we as readers end up with is just a bunch of blog posts that basically read like the tec specs list of the camera, i could have gotten that info from BM`s website a lot easier... 
best,
 
wondo
 

andrew,
forget about that paycheck argument, and any "proof" about being a pro cinematographer or not. you can not measure this way.
i always worshipped your honest opinion, and an emotional outburst just proofs that there`s a human being behind all of this, that does not write reviews on his pocket calculator. admitting that you went a little over the top just underlines that.
another big plus for you.
the PR machinery has chewed up a lot of unbiased coverage these days and i never know wether all the praise was bought or is true. except on eoshd!
for me the latest canon coverage was the final nail in that coffin, how can anyone with a sound mind write something positive about this thing? well, you probably can if you`ve been to hawaii...
and what`s the use of that BM event (for us readers) without any attendee being allowed to shoot a single frame himself? what we as readers end up with is just a bunch of blog posts that basically read like the tec specs list of the camera, i could have gotten that info from BM`s website a lot easier... 
best,
 
wondo
 

andrew,
forget about that paycheck argument, and any "proof" about being a pro cinematographer or not. you can not measure this way.
i always worshipped your honest opinion, and an emotional outburst just proofs that there`s a human being behind all of this, that does not write reviews on his pocket calculator. admitting that you went a little over the top just underlines that.
another big plus for you.
the PR machinery has chewed up a lot of unbiased coverage these days and i never know wether all the praise was bought or is true. except on eoshd!
for me the latest canon coverage was the final nail in that coffin, how can anyone with a sound mind write something positive about this thing? well, you probably can if you`ve been to hawaii...
and what`s the use of that BM event (for us readers) without any attendee being allowed to shoot a single frame himself? what we as readers end up with is just a bunch of blog posts that basically read like the tec specs list of the camera, i could have gotten that info from BM`s website a lot easier... 
best,
 
wondo
 

​+1
you will need new lenses for 50mp.
even medium format is on the edge at 50 mp... and this is a dslr.
so there`s a high chance that buyers will fill up their hard drives in a breeze just to have higher resolving details in chromatic aberration and soft images, where`s the point in that?

hdmi now also goes out to the back...
carbon fiber would be nice but i`m lacking the know how for that. 

​just cleaned the screen and the bloody logos came off! :-)
well... makes it easier to apply a screen protector.
shogun cage almost ready, just need to reduce the weight... a bit like an iphone, first thing you have to do is buy a protective case...
the brittle hdmi connection bothers me most... need to find better cables with better angles and flexibility.

​well... you know my problem...
always looking for that little b-cam that can go seamlessly with an alexa, epic or f65...
just a couple of frames here, a second there, uncomplicated and reasonably small, one step below an extra epic body from the rental house.
by uncomplicated i mean that it should not be a nightmare to expose, with 500 different approaches for every setup, millions of menus to go through, and always haunted by that erie feeling that you forgot to set something way down in the menu jungle.
i don`t want to spend every lunch break with the dit :-)
shoots are stress and i have a million other things to care about, besides camera set ups, codecs, etc.
on the last shoots the a7s worked quite well on car interiors etc.
but looking at the setup now with the shogun attached this thing became quite a beast. and the hdmi cable that sticks out 10cm is an accident waiting to happen, especially when you`re not sitting under a tree doing a time lapse of a mushroom.
as you can imagine, my cnc is already spinning up for the shogun cage/armour, it needs a proper hdmi safety and is much too weak for a tough shoot. will email you pictures...
so for me a used 1dc is quite an attractive option, could use my 058w as a finder, not to mention the tons of L glass that sit on my shelf.
but before i make that decision it would be good to know if it is only marginally better or a real advantage over the a7s.
and andrew, one more thing, can`t you do a post about hdmi cables? i`ve been searching my ass off for decent ones, even bought the atomos cables (that don`t fit into the a7s cable safety, nor the movcam cage!) plus i never seem to find cables that have the right angle etc.. for the shogun for example the best cable for me would come with a 90 degree angle to the right and then go down directly to the camera.
 
best,
 
wondo

so doug`s comments made you tick? :-)
very eager to read about your findings...
but please don`t make the same mistake and write everything in the 1dc`s favor just because it was so expensive! :-)

great job rich!
been thinking about this since the first dof adaptors came out...
 
next stop is 4X5" !! :-)

andrew!
 
you can`t put "mass production" and "leica m" in the same line!!
that`s a bit like "chuck norris" and "nobel prize" in one sentence.... :-)

andrew!
 
you can`t put "mass production" and "leica m" in the same line!!
that`s a bit like "chuck norris" and "nobel prize" in one sentence.... :-)

nice toy... but not really new...
 
gamechanger? 
for 15000$ + remote focus / iris / zoom system $$ + wireless video $$ + remote operator + focus puller + arnold schwarzenegger to carry this around.... well...
 
all quadcopter gimbals are "inspired" by the flight head.
and their own small version is available for some years now.
 
http://www.portocam.com
 
it`s just not small enough to carry it around by hand, but it takes on decent cameras.. and comes at a price...
 
BUT, quadcopter gimbals are available from dozens of sources, the electronics became smaller etc..
i think this is a good "inspiration" for something you can build on your own for a fraction of the price!