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Thermal throttle is no fun though, unless you edit super fast

The current videos out so far is only doing simple layer edit, once you put multiple layer/lut etc the throttle will be more obvious

Lol very similar to this graph just down below on that article 
 

More RAM always better if you can afford it. Looking like 13in MBP with 16GB is my next laptop. I have an R5 coming and all the heavy lifting I would do on my computer is video editing...so I’d rather pay $1,500 for a MBP then $4,000 for a fully spec out intel Mac and not be able to edit my footage smoothly without time-consuming transcoding.
No background rendering required with any R5 footage in FCP on M1 Macs, even with correction and a LUT applied. Pretty amazing.
Now they just need to update FCP with enhanced features like tracking and facial recognition and tracking to keep it competitive with resolve and premier.

For the FCP video editors out there:
4K 10-bit 4:2:2 HEVC from R5 with insane bitrates...not a problem
4K 60p 10-bit 4:2:2 HEVC with several corrections and a LUT applied....not a problem.
Very impressive considering his $15,000 Mac Pro can’t do it.

Meh
https://www.eoshd.com/news/sony-fx6-is-here-but-will-you-still-have-a-job-to-go-with-it/

Watched the gerald undone review of the FX6 this morning.
Kind of confused that 4K Long GOP is only in 8-bit, and you would need to shoot in All-I for 10-bit 4K
Lack of even a 3.5mm mic jack on the body itself means if you take the top handle off to fly on a gimbal, you won't have any audio (except for tiny mic built in to body) is also a bummer. 
Phillip Bloom seemed pretty distraught over the handling.
Dynamic range the same as a7S III???
Seems like for a lot of people the a7S III might be a better fit...

At this current pandemic it's kinda dumb to invest huge money for wedding business 

Rumored specs:
 
Cool specs, but can it run Crysis?

Very good read about intel and Apple and the new silicon in macs.
https://jamesallworth.medium.com/intels-disruption-is-now-complete-d4fa771f0f2c
 

I'm here if you need to talk.
 
 

Neither

At this current pandemic it's kinda dumb to invest huge money for wedding business 

Actually, a correction: ARM is not making these chips for Apple. ARM actually doesn't make chips at all, they license their designs in two distinct ways.
The first way is licensing a full design of an actual chip, so all someone like HTC or LG has to do is pay the licensing rights, send the design to a Fab (where chips are built) and they are done.
The second (and much less common way) is that they license what's called an "ISA" (Instruction Set Architecture), which is basically (to put it simply) the words/instructions that the "language" of an ARM architecture speaks, and then someone like Apple can license this ISA and then design and implement its own chips designs *from scratch* implementing the ISA, and this is where things get interesting as Apple has world-class leading-edge engineers designing from ground zero its own chips. So although Apple's chips are "ARM-based", they are not the generic chips most other manufacturers buy, and this is where Apple shines. A great thing about this approach (which as you can imagine, is very expensive) is that Apple can modify the chip as fit, and add all the extra circuitry to it to optimize it for specific things (like macOS acceleration, encryption in real-time, video encoding and decoding, Machine Learning, etc).
Bottom line: Even if you try to compare two ARM-derived chips running at the same frequency between say a generic Android device and an Apple-designed one, it is highly-likely that Apple's chips will be more efficient in real-world terms.
For those interested in this topic I wrote a lengthly article about Apple Silicon. I offer below the original link (in Spanish) and the Google-translated version of it in english (the translation is surprisingly good):
http://eliax.com/index.cfm?post_id=11569
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=es&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Feliax.com%2Findex.cfm%3Fpost_id%3D11569
Hope that explains a bit what's going on here (as a Microprocessor Engineer and Computer Scientist I know a bit about these things and the industry as a whole, and love to share my knowledge in layman terms).
 
 

I got my R5 10 days ago and did many tests and then did 3 photo shootings and 1 photo + video, here my observation so far:
 
Regarding the photo part is simply the best camera I had so far, very good resolution, AF, FPS, very quick in all the operations. The EVF is quite good but could be even better in term of color representation there is quite a bit difference between the EVF and the LCD. EVF with a bit more res would also be good. The 1DX III is still better in initial AF acquisition, panning fast and balance with big lenses as with the 200-400 is not that great with the R5 probably a battery grip would help. For the rest the R5 is better.
Need to do a side by side scaled down at 20mpix on high iso to see if there is an advantage on the 1Dx there. On 1-1 pixel noise is better on the 1Dx but equalized not sure the difference is so big.
 
On the video side 8K RAW is just incredible and a tad better than 5.5K 1DX RAW, good RS, good DR and great sharpness. 8K RAW is easier to edit in Resolve than 4k h265 10 bit… form factor is great and for gimbal is perfect with the swivel lcd. VND adapter is just so much more practical that front screw ND and VND. Not telling something new here. AF is also great, animal AF is ok with horses but not great did not test with other animals yet.
Did test on the Ronin S with IBIS on and off and definitely with on is better still sometimes I have the impression is fighting a bit against each other but need to test more.
Strangely the wifi live view on the R5 there is way less latency and more fps than the 1Dx III, the app is the same but is much more usable.  1Dx is basically unusable.
 
For the photo plus video I did ca. 45 min of pictures (380 frames taken) and then switched to video and did capture around 18 min of 8K RAW in the remaining 1h in 1-5 min takes. Had to change the battery almost at the end and no sign of overheating but condition were ideal 12 c°. I did not turn off the camera between takes but I had the LCD timeout set at 1min.
 
Things that they should improve via firmware:
The resolution/framerate menu I thought it was better than the 1Dx but actually is bad as if you have on or off the high quality mode it blocks out thing. Why on earth I cannot move from 8k RAW to 4K HQ directly there. The 120fps should also be there and not a separate menu. Zebras and peaking cannot be active at the same time Zebras are not available in 8K RAW with Log on, it is with Log off Histogram while recording would be good but still is not for Canon, even better vectorscopes Clog 2 & 3 as promised Cinema RAW Light as promised (here I expect 20-30% size reduction) H265 10bit 4:2:0 or XF-AVC for easier editing HFR should be with audio and not already conformed to 25 or 30 fps You should be able to assign the audio gain to one of the settings wheels, really annoying that you need to press q, press the audio chart and then you can use the wheel. Improve further the overheating issue  
Things that could be better but not fixable via firmware :
No overheating at all Bigger LCD Even less latency and more fps over wifi I would prefer a dedicated switch for video/photo, only button that you can assign for quick switch is the m-fn VND Adapter should have a way to lock the wheel it is a bit too easy to bump on it Full or at least mini hdmi instead of micro one I would prefer dual CFexpress but I get why they put and SD instead  
Some frames grab

I'm not sure how many people will either so the primary purpose of a lot of the static stuff is to illustrate speed and accuracy.
From a low level system point of view, the sensor doesn't differentiate as it is always in continuous feed mode to the processor which then acts on it based on the current mode and settings that the user has active.
The target motor positioning is fast enough to cope with big distance changes but also extremely accurate in terms of repeatability to deal with smaller movements.
More videos soon though as its easier to show than tell !
 

Just had it powered up and walking round the house filming absolutely nothing. 
- Easy to use and setup. Menu’s are well organised. 
- The touch function to change settings like frame rates is incredible. I hated this on the EVA1. It felt like an eternity! This is super fast. 
- Digital IS is actually very impressive! On my Sigma 18-35 it was very steady. 
- DPAF works well with the standard EF adapter and my Sigma. Not quite as snappy as my Sony A7SIII does wish native glass but very, very usable. Only bad thing is it makes quite a bit of noise when changing focus. I can’t afford RF yet. 
- Sometimes like you get with IBIS, with DIS the image doesn’t feel robotic. Looks natural. 
- Some of the buttons are hard to reach with your right hand on the grip. Maybe I’ll loosen the strap more. 
- The joystick takes some getting used to. I keep making navigation mistakes. 
- With an EF lens like Sigma 18-35, somehow I felt the focus ring was too far for me to reach when hand holding. I think this is just that I’m used to other cameras, and this form factor is new so I just need to adjust. 
- More pleasurable time hold than the A7SIII, however I’m still stunned what that tiny body can do! 
- Camera doesn’t feel heavy at all with lens and battery. They’ve done a great job. 

It’s arrived. Just charging batteries but first impressions of the body...
- Great form factor, makes total sense although could be nice to have a compact EVF somewhere. 
- It’s much more lightweight than I thought. Doesn’t feel that much heavier than the A7SIII. 
- Body is solid, but the material is definitely a bit more budget than other C-series. 
- LCD is larger than I thought, although it’s on the flimsy side. 
- Button layout is great. Everything is there although the “media” button is almost impossible to press with your right hand on the grip. 
- The top handle is neat however the texture feels weird. Others might not mind, but I think I’ll have to wrap some extra material round it, haha. 
In conclusion, Canon have stripped back the premium feel a little to give us a camera with great features at a great price point. The form factor makes sense and they’ve done a great job of fusing these bodies together. 
Now, let’s see how it does on the field. 
 
 

The current M1 only top 16gb ram,  I think there there will be M1X with more core and expandable Ram slot for 16inch Mbp/mac pro/imac pro

Here is a new series on EOSHD...
It's a podcast.
The aim is to put out long 1-2 hour conversations, in the style of Joe Rogen - touching on subjects others dare not, sort of. Oh and some camera nerd talk as well...
https://www.eoshd.com/news/the-eoshd-podcast-episode-1-british-filmmaker-jg-harding/
Hope you enjoy it, and thanks to JG for taking part in this episode.

cries in 3700x...

You can find S1 second hand with some warranty left for 1500 E/$. So even you have to pay for the V-Log upgrade it is still a very good deal.
Panasonic S5 vs S1. In my opinion it boils down to one or two major differences.
    1. Do you want a smaller lighter camera or not. How important this is to you. How often you will use it on a gimbal ?
    2. Are you planning to record most of the time internally 10bit 4:2:2 or externally to ProRes RAW. If it is externally then S1 is the better option. It has Full Size HDMI. For S5 you'll have to add a bracket and a clamp for the micro HDMI cable. Once you do this (and have HDMI cable plugged in) flip screen becomes unusable, rotation is blocked by the HDMI cable. And S5 weight and size with bracket and clamp equals S1.
Looked at several clips from S1 shot at internal  V-Log 10bit 4:2:2. Skin tone come always reddish after color space transform in Resolve and Red color is a little bit off in general. So it requires some work at post. Not quite as nice as BMPCC 4K BRAW. So for me plan is to use external recorder most of the time. And in this case S1 seems to be the better option. For internal recording would probably choose S5. Flip screen is useful and Micro HDMI doesn't matter.
Downloadable V-Log clips at first two links. Panasonic S1H compared to Sigma FP at third link, how red color looks on both (after 2:12, compared at 3:00)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGqrGCz_l-k&t=230s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Al-tIFXFuY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQJkcTd82Uo   

Everything is a matter of opinion, but on one hand you have dozens of 'reviewers/content creators' unboxing a product before (sometimes) going outside and waving it about...and then you have filmmakers:
Entirely shot on the S5 with the 20-60mm f3.5-5.6 and the 85mm f1.8
YouTube won't do it justice...
 
 

I thought @Andrew Reid’s piece was excellent. Useful insights.
The rest of the thread proves one thing - we are all looking for different things from our cameras/tools.
“Brilliant” that we have so many to choose from.
I’m enjoying my Siii.

I went Z-Cam earlier this year.

I was planning to go with the UMP G2 but then Covid happened and all my work dried up so that went on hold. When it started up again, I decided to grab the Z-Cam E2-S6 instead as it covered a lot of the same bases (my prerequisites were Prores, 4K100p, Internal ND & v-mount power option) for a lot less money. It was also a small, lightweight package that I didn't have to spend half a day prepping/packing/charging/rigging before a shoot. This was important for me as when bookings started to come back, they were a lot different and instead of being multiple-day crewed shoots plus travel they mostly became local half-day affairs with no other crew. I needed something where I could instantly say yes when I'd get called and asked to do a 3-hour shoot the following morning, and still know it would be worthwhile and effortless and that I could get everything prepped in time easily. The camera sits on my desk or shelf and when I have a small shoot, I just put a battery on the charger the night before and then I'm good to go for about 6 hours of shooting - no other prep required.

While the camera has served its purpose for this - especially once I had a decent handheld rig - It has its shortcomings. The eND kit which I ordered in May is still backordered so I'm stuck with rectangle filters for now (in a Tilta mini matte box). Some of the controls are clunky. Audio is a pain - the mini-XLR breakaway cable I have does not fit when using my v-mount plate, so I've got a Zoom H5 due this week, which I plan to mostly use a mixer & pre-amp (rather than purely as a recorder).  I've had a few producers ask me what camera I shoot with and they've never heard of the Z-Cam - though luckily this didn't lose me any of the jobs because most of the work lately is local and I'm in a regional market so I'm often their only option (unless they want a hybrid shooter who can't do sound or lighting).

The image is fantastic though. I don't shoot charts or do tests, but for actual in-the-field performance it is great - there's never been a time when the image quality has been the limiting factor in any way - and there's not many cameras under $10K where that can be said.