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Our "ally" in the USA just bazooka'd the UK film industry


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100% tariffs on American films which aren't all shot in the US.

100% tariffs on all foreign imports and Netflix production.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cz01kx3yrmvo

https://news.sky.com/story/donald-trump-announces-100-tariff-on-non-us-movies-as-film-industry-dying-13362069

Proper details sketchy but looks bad.

But all par for the course when your public votes for a thuggish fascist dictator.

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There's been some discussion on this here today.  The main takeaway is that nobody even understands what it means.  How in the fuck can you put a tariff on a film?  It doesn't even make sense.  And what is a "foreign import?"  If I drive across the border to Canada, shoot 3 minutes of footage, and add it to a 90-minute film that was otherwise shot and edited in the US, what's taxed?

FWIW, it also would be a torpedo to the Canadian industry - and I suspect the tariffs were partly driven by spite at Canada for voting so strongly against his agenda.

Anyway, the major studios are going to hate this.  Aside from reducing costs by producing abroad, if other countries retaliate in kind, International returns on films are going to crater - and that's a huge percentage of their profits.

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Do you think it applies to ad revenue collected from YouTube videos shot in another country? What about ad revenue from ads shot in other countries? Does Google pay the tariff on their ads, or does the advertiser pay it when they sell a product?

Do you think it's about what is in the shot, or camera placement? Ie if I stand on the US side and film something across the border, is it a US shot or not? What if I place a giant mirror across the border and film it, giving the exact perspective of the camera being placed on the other side?

37 minutes ago, eatstoomuchjam said:

If I drive across the border to Canada, shoot 3 minutes of footage, and add it to a 90-minute film that was otherwise shot and edited in the US, what's taxed?

Well Canada is the 51st state, so no tax. Obviously.

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3 hours ago, eatstoomuchjam said:

There's been some discussion on this here today.  The main takeaway is that nobody even understands what it means.  How in the fuck can you put a tariff on a film?  It doesn't even make sense.  And what is a "foreign import?"  If I drive across the border to Canada, shoot 3 minutes of footage, and add it to a 90-minute film that was otherwise shot and edited in the US, what's taxed?

FWIW, it also would be a torpedo to the Canadian industry - and I suspect the tariffs were partly driven by spite at Canada for voting so strongly against his agenda.

Anyway, the major studios are going to hate this.  Aside from reducing costs by producing abroad, if other countries retaliate in kind, International returns on films are going to crater - and that's a huge percentage of their profits.

It's absolutely unhinged isn't it?

 

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I think the solution is to have distribution channels independent of the USA. Create your own streaming platforms for content made regionally and also internationally (among movie-producing countries that don't go into trade wars with each other). This way the market becomes much more healthy and less dominated by a small number of current players that are very large. Of course I understand that funding can be an issue, but such platforms could gather public financing (either via subscriptions that are a bit larger than the big platforms' fees initially, or via government or intergovernmental support from tax money). The streaming costs that a platform incurs are dependent on the quantity of content  and if the focus is on quality, this shouldn't be a huge issue.

 

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9 hours ago, newfoundmass said:

He's very dumb.

I'm about 15000 kilometers away from "ground zero". Kinda glad i'm not an american right now and i feel for you americans i really do.  The basic premise of getting a businessman in to run the country sounds reasonable.. But it only works if your business man has some scruples, standards or a code of conduct. Pretty sure, none of that applies to trump.

If he's dumb, what does that say about half of America, or however many you need to win an election over there? He's many things, but i doubt dumb is one of them. His speeches aren't particularly eloquent or articulated, but don't make the mistake of interpreting that as dumb.

Was it the X files that used to have that, underlying we want to believe Psychology ?  I think trump grabbed onto that with his, make america great again marketing scheme and hit a home run it. The scary part is after his first effort, when his term ends this time he won't go quietly. Thats if he isn't already trying to setup some sort of dynasty thing...  

A number of years ago, clive palmer (our version of trump) got himself elected after the queensland goverment imposed new taxes on mining. The first thing he did while elected was reverse the new mining taxes.  We recently had our own elections over here and to every one's surprise we had Clive Palmers "Trumpet of Patriots" party as an option. Thankfully it didn't get enough support. Otherwise it would have been devastating for this country. My point being everybody with half a brain is going to latch to this strategy. Which probably means every country is going to face more "entitled people" yelling vote for me...

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