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9 minutes ago, jonpais said:

Would someone be so kind as to show me some cinematic looking footage that has not been graded? No need to post it here, just PM a link. Because I’ve never seen such an animal. All theatrical releases have been graded. 

Also, some here are saying things like, ‘I’m sure the Pocket will have custom white balance.’ I hope it does too - but how can anyone make statements like that? Are they clairvoyant?

And in answer to short battery life and lack of IBIS - which TBH I don’t really care anyway - someone says just slap on a cheap rig and V-mount battery: well, that seems painfully obvious; but it’s not the same as having IBIS and 3-hour battery life. 

This video might change your mind about how good IBIS is versus lens OIS. Canon, Nikon have sort of used the latter to good use for many years.

 

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8 minutes ago, webrunner5 said:

I do.

They're great : ) My 1st one was the 24-105 f/4 and I actually recall I even posted on dvxuser a non-scientific test I made in Germany I remind now... ten years ago hehe just remember ;-)

IBIS is another class though. Nothing a gimbal won't work out anyway. IQ 12-bit RAW will be the paramount here. BMD color science matches fulfilling the combo, as well, the 4/3" format IMO.

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2 minutes ago, Emanuel said:

They're great : ) My 1st one was the 24-105 f/4 and I actually recall I even posted on dvxuser a non-scientific test I made in Germany I remind now... ten years ago hehe just remember ;-)

IBIS is another class though. Nothing a gimbal won't work out anyway.

Actually, IBIS is excellent for use with cinema lenses like the Veydras; and IBIS helps even when flying on a gimbal. 

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2 minutes ago, jonpais said:

Actually, IBIS is excellent for use with cinema lenses like the Veydras; and IBIS helps even when flying on a gimbal. 

I guess so. But never tested it, so no opinion about. Even though, I've read some jerky corrections may introduce any noise to the complement. Well, just wondering now...

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7 minutes ago, Emanuel said:

They're great : ) My 1st one was the 24-105 f/4 and I actually recall I even posted on dvxuser a non-scientific test I made in Germany I remind now... ten years ago hehe just remember ;-)

I have the very first version of the 14-45mm OIS Panasonic kit lens they made. It is considered to be the sharpest kit lens Panny ever made. And the one I have is crazy good sharpness wise, and it is pretty amazing how well the OIS works in it. I can't believe how they got the OIS so good on one of the first lenses they made using it.

I have a Sony 28-70mm, my son has the Sony 16-35mm F4 lens and they both have OSS.And I have 3 Canon lenses with imagine stabilization in them. The 10-22mm EFS one and my 28-70mm Canon works great on my A7s. So I have a pretty good mix of lens that work pretty good handheld.

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Just now, Emanuel said:

I guess so. But never tested it, so no opinion about. Even though, I've read some jerky corrections may introduce any noise to the complement. Just wondering...

Could be. Happens occasionally. But nowhere near as bad as shaky handheld.

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In fact, Don. These major players are tough manufacturers. Their glass never disappoints, at least to me :-)

I fully agree on that one, Jon.

We live great times... My own expectations in 2001 when HDCAM arrived (and put my plans out of film path) have been beaten indeed. I personally heard Tonino Guerra to tell me and a few other people there that those Japanese cameras were the future. Michelangelo Antonioni dreamed with when he shot The Mystery of Oberwald two and a half decades before. Pity he had no chance to be with us nowadays.

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16 minutes ago, jonpais said:

Actually, IBIS is excellent for use with cinema lenses like the Veydras; and IBIS helps even when flying on a gimbal. 

That is true.

I just bought this used Tripod on ebay yesterday. My other tripod was on the heavy side. Like twice the weight, 12 pounds so this ought to help. You know I am a Tripod guy, so a lot of this IBIS stuff I don't have a lot of use for. But I do want to buy the new 4K BMPCC so will be using my Came TV Gimbal with it. Should fit on it I hope.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Manfrotto-Pro-351MVCF-Carbon-Fiber-Tripod-Legs-With-Spreader-75mm-Mount/312103981174?epid=97374713&hash=item48aad8d076:g:5L0AAOSwlO1axp1Q#viTabs_0

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15 minutes ago, webrunner5 said:

That is true.

I just bought this used Tripod on ebay yesterday. My other tripod was on the heavy side. Like twice the weight, 12 pounds so this ought to help. You know I am a Tripod guy, so a lot of this IBIS stuff I don't have a lot of use for. But I do want to buy the new 4K BMPCC so will be using my Came TV Gimbal with it. Should fit on it I hope.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Manfrotto-Pro-351MVCF-Carbon-Fiber-Tripod-Legs-With-Spreader-75mm-Mount/312103981174?epid=97374713&hash=item48aad8d076:g:5L0AAOSwlO1axp1Q#viTabs_0

I love good tripods myself. But some handheld or rig stuff with a little movement can really breathe some life into the shots. 

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Not understanding that BMD discussion wrt timecode.

It accepts it in but doesn't jam to it..preset only?

So...has to be continuously fed by a tentacle, mozegear or similar box? That would be standard op for most..but most cams need to be switched to free run (as opposed to preset) for that to work.

 

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9 hours ago, Anaconda_ said:

I just found a Q&A with a 'Black Magic Design Expert'. Let me know if there's a better way to display this. I'll try to add to it as more information comes.

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Wow. You did cover some very important questions.

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