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Just now, DBounce said:

We've all seen this old footage. There is more to am image than the senor alone.  We need to see footage from the Terra, not the Kinemax 6k.

Yeah, I agree. I'm not crazy about the footage I see from the kinemax so I'm interested if this terra will be different. For raw, these images seem thin and the colors have a brownish mush about them.

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17 hours ago, Hanriverprod said:

Yeah, I agree. I'm not crazy about the footage I see from the kinemax so I'm interested if this terra will be different. For raw, these images seem thin and the colors have a brownish mush about them.

Yeah likewise, I do kinda like the images, but something is off (sharpness, resolution) the videos I have seen look like SD footage to me. Not sure if it is a camera thing, or the uploaders mistake.

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Seriously just give it to a cinematographer to SHOOT THINGS WITH IT. For the love of god I've seen some incredible stuff from the Kine 4K after it came out. It's a goddamn camera, show us some footage.

I want one of these cameras, but I can't commit to it until I see at least one frame of skin tone!

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On 8/31/2016 at 7:32 AM, Marco Bentz said:

Nice camera shape with the new battery. Nice package, ergonomic, modular ... Curious to see some footage from the  6K but especially from the 5k ...!

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Nice, but where have I seen this type of modular design before?

Recall that the Kinemax 6K has the worst rolling shutter of any cinema camera unless you shoot in the 4K "sport mode," which then defeats the purpose of buying a 6K camera. So I'm not sure I would go for the 6K version.

The Terra 5K, however, has the potential to be the best value in this price range, with the switchable global shutter and a 5K ProRes option. 5K also makes a lot more sense than the oddball 4.6K resolution in its competitors the Raven and Ursa Mini when considering the advantages gained in debayering for 4K delivery.

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55 minutes ago, Kino said:

Nice, but where have I seen this type of modular design before?

Recall that the Kinemax 6K has the worst rolling shutter of any cinema camera unless you shoot in the 4K "sport mode," which then defeats the purpose of buying a 6K camera. So I'm not sure I would go for the 6K version.

The Terra 5K, however, has the potential to be the best value in this price range, with the switchable global shutter and a 5K ProRes option. 5K also makes a lot more sense than the oddball 4.6K resolution in its competitors the Raven and Ursa Mini when considering the advantages gained in debayering for 4K delivery.

Well if the 6k still has golden 3k (more DR than the 5k is specced to have - and I would assume less rolling shutter than the 6k mode?), or if the global shutter switch causes more real world issues than sports mode, it could balance out. We've never seen this type of global shutter/rolling shutter option actually working yet, right? Plus rolling shutter could have been improved in the 6k terra, or the 5k could be just about as bad. And 6k is still more resolution than 5k. if that much is needed, that's the option. And the 6k is a more tested sensor. Forgive me if I missed some news, hard to keep up. But I think it's hard to say right now, and they both sound great

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11 hours ago, Liam said:

Well if the 6k still has golden 3k (more DR than the 5k is specced to have - and I would assume less rolling shutter than the 6k mode?), or if the global shutter switch causes more real world issues than sports mode, it could balance out. We've never seen this type of global shutter/rolling shutter option actually working yet, right? Plus rolling shutter could have been improved in the 6k terra, or the 5k could be just about as bad. And 6k is still more resolution than 5k. if that much is needed, that's the option. And the 6k is a more tested sensor. Forgive me if I missed some news, hard to keep up. But I think it's hard to say right now, and they both sound great

The Kinefinity rep at NAB claimed that the Terra 5K version will have a "dual gain" sensor (for an expanded DR) as well as an improved rolling shutter mode in contrast with the 6K, which has the same specs as the Kinemax 6K. He made it very clear that the 6K version will perform exactly the same as the existing Kinemax 6K:

 

A lot of the Kinemax shooters seem to love the golden 3K that is for sure. Here is a very useful review of the Kinemax 6K by someone who owns and operates the camera for a living:

To me, 5K is absolutely the perfect resolution as 6K simply results in little visual improvement at the price of much larger file sizes and storage requirements. Just ask some of the RED Dragon shooters. Meanwhile, the improvements with DR and rolling shutter performance make the 5K a much better option in those areas. If I can only see some footage soon, I will consider cancelling my Scarlet-W order and moving to the Terra 5K. It has an amazing feature set and is almost too good to be true.

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17 minutes ago, Kino said:

The Kinefinity rep at NAB claimed that the Terra 5K version will have a "dual gain" sensor (for an expanded DR) as well as an improved rolling shutter mode from the 6K, which has the same specs as the Kinemax 6K. He made it very clear that the 6K version will perform exactly the same as the existing Kinemax 6K:

 

 

Improved rolling shutter... yet perform exactly the same. This statement is  contradictory.

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16 minutes ago, DBounce said:

Improved rolling shutter... yet perform exactly the same. This statement is  contradictory.

The 5k rolling shutter improved over the 6k. The 6k terra performing the same as the kinemax, not improved

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raw/prores

5k Terra

S35

5K HD5120x2700 50/50

5K HD Wide5120x2160 60/60

4K(Oversample)4096x2160 N/A/50

4K Wide(Oversample)4096x1716 N/A/60

4K HD (Oversample)3840x2160 N/A/50

4K HD Wide  (Oversample)3840x1600 N/A/60

M4/3

3.6K 4:3 Anamorphic3600x2700 50/50

4K4096x2160 75/75

4K Wide4096x1716 100/100

4K HD3840x2160 75/75

4K HD Wide3840x1600 100/100

4K HD Wide3840x1600100100

S16

3K3072x1620 100/100

3K Wide3072x1280130/130

3K HD2880x1620 100/100

3K HD Wide2880x1200 130/130

 

6k Terra

S35

6K HD5760x3240 30/30

6K HD Wide5760x2400 30/40

4K HD (Oversample)3840x2160 N/A/30

4K HD Wide  (Oversample)3840x1600 N/A/40

4K HD (HiSpeed)3840x2160 75/75

4K HD Wide (HiSpeed)3840x1600 100/100

Golden 3K2880x1620 30/30

Golden 3K Wide2880x1200 40/40

M4/3

4.3K 4:3 Anamorphic4320x3240 30/30

4K 4:3 Anamorphic4096x3072 30/30

4K4096x2160 44/44

4K Wide4096x1716 56/56

4K HD3840x2160 44/44

4K HD Wide3840x1600 60/60

3K HD (HiSpeed)2880x1620 115/115

3K HD Wide (HiSpeed)2880x1200 150/150

Golden 2.2K Ana2176x1620 30/30

Golden 2K Ana2048x1536 30/30

Golden 2K2048x1080 44/44

Golden 2K Wide2048x860 54/54

Golden 2K HD1920x1080 44/44

Golden 2K HD Wide1920x800 60/60

S16

3K3072x1620 59/59

3K Wide3072x1280 75/75

3K HD2880x1620 59/59

3K HD Wide2880x1200 75/75

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Yes, the 5K has improved rolling shutter over the 6K, which is exactly the same as the Kinemax 6K. I corrected the sentence above in case it was vague or unclear.

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