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Apologies for resurrecting such an old thread. But I found it amazing that, here we are, 8 years after this thread was started and you still cannot find firmware, whether official or dumped, for the 1DC on the internet. A 1DX can be had fairly cheap these days and would be so fun to have with 4k capabilities. No wonder canon will always own this camera market. They play the game better than anyone.

I have no specific knowledge other than it makes sense. They're pulling from the same playbook as Olympus. The only new products they're sending out are a repackaging of their old technology. How long can one new camera (GH6) carry you as a business? I love VariCam but Arri is too sexy for productions to resist. Blackmagic is too attractive to smaller productions due to the super low cost, great image, and streamlined ecosystem. If Panasonic made the bold move with the EVA1 to strap an MFT mount to the front, they no doubt would've had more success with it. No guts no glory.
Camera technology is seemingly a very difficult space to innovate in currently. The only companies making headway seem to be cell phone manufacturers who are willing and able to throw a mass of resources at the problem. Not to mention those companies also peddle in data mining, so, it only behoves them to keep that technology updated and exciting and in the best position to learn who you are as a consumer.

Unforgettable.

Gee I don't know what to say. Well certainly thanks is in order. Yeah i missed you guys also. I went though some scary ass medical problems, actually died for a bit, but I guess too mean to die too long so hey here I am. Sepsis shock just about did me in. It knocks you down in just about every organ you have so at my age, nearly 75 now, hard to crawl back, well I never will make it back to what I was, and I have just aged the more since, happens you know. But actually right now I am really not doing too bad. My mother died a few months ago, my one daughter just had double mastectomy with breast cancer, well not much fun not counting this God Damn Pandemic. Just what the hell I needed lol. So I have been sort of out of it for a bit, literally, bummed out for a bit and working my way back. 
I am reorganizing my camera, video gear for less heft, and a little more creativity. Nobody knows how long you will live but I know I am running out of time so I just want to have a bit of fun while I can. So I came back here to be re educated and reunite with some of my old friends, which I have had very few of in my life. I hope I can contribute a little past knowledge, screw ups and all, plenty of those, and have a few good forward thinking threads evolve. And maybe a few fireworks to add to the fire. Hey I am still Don you know. But yeah I have mellowed a bit trust me. I went out though the tunnel and saw what few have seen and felt, and for the limited time was super peaceful and intriguing. I think I was going up and not down like a lot of people thought would happen. 😬

I found some time to mess around with this video a bit more. Same screen grab as before but on a 4k timeline with Blackmagic 4k Film output gamma and I played with the colors a bit. BTW, I do not have anything close to a grading monitor. I play these videos through my Plex server on my budget TV and if it looks right I go with it. Though, I haven't looked at the video as is yet. I also overlaid the video with 16mm film grain. I'm generally not a fan of film grain for my own stuff, but, it seems to fit-the-bill here.
The colors are so much more easily manipulated here as compared to my usual G85/ GX85 CineD files. I have also learned that Davinci resolve will not export any of the frame rates I want for this video (e.g. 12, 16, 18fps). So, I am exporting 24fps and using handbrake to convert to 12fps. Handbrake also doesn't output 16 or 18fps. Any tips or tricks are welcome!
I took some 4k 60p video with the standard pixel camera app in this same scenario. I started playing around with that mess last night. The image is horrendously oversharpened and noisy. The crop is ridiculous with the OIS activated, as if it weren't bad enough with the 4k crop alone. Curiously enough the 1080p crop is the same as the 4k, so, even in 1080p they aren't sampling the full width of the sensor. You also can't do much of anything with the image in post. I made some slight contrast adjustments with curves, but anything else blows the image into orbit.
 

We've been in touch through private messaging during this pandemic period but we haven't seen his posts so much over this family more recently ; ) However seems he's restarting to make our days better with his thoughts available to all once again : ) Love this guy!
@webrunner5
 

So, I recently picked up a Pixel 5a on sale and gave the Motion Cam app a go on it. I've been having some fun and finding some fairly consistent results with the full sensor (4032X3024) @ 12FPS. I think the sensor size comes close to super 8mm sizing and the results definitely have an 8mm vibe.
The screen grab below is from a cinemaDNG sequence dropped into Resolve on a 1080p/ rec709/ linear timeline -> color space transform (which I didn't even know you could use in the free version) ARRI LogC output gamma -> ARRI Alexa LogC to rec709 LUT -> bumped up the saturation a bit and brought the shadows down with the log wheels
Be gentle; what I know of a RAW workflow has been learned in about 2 hours this week.
There's no noise reduction applied, but it seems like the downscale helped clean things up and give a more film like quality.
The app is a bit clunky, but is obviously in beta and can't be fully criticized yet. Manual focus would be amazing and there were some exposure shifts that may or may not have been my fault. If someone sold this technology with a MFT lens mount on it as a modern 8mm camera I would for sure buy one. It's been fun and I'm enjoying learning about RAW correction/ grading.
There seems to be a few people catching on to the app on YouTube. People with more powerful phones seem to be having better luck with things. Hopefully development continues with success and RED doesn't interfere!

So, I recently picked up a Pixel 5a on sale and gave the Motion Cam app a go on it. I've been having some fun and finding some fairly consistent results with the full sensor (4032X3024) @ 12FPS. I think the sensor size comes close to super 8mm sizing and the results definitely have an 8mm vibe.
The screen grab below is from a cinemaDNG sequence dropped into Resolve on a 1080p/ rec709/ linear timeline -> color space transform (which I didn't even know you could use in the free version) ARRI LogC output gamma -> ARRI Alexa LogC to rec709 LUT -> bumped up the saturation a bit and brought the shadows down with the log wheels
Be gentle; what I know of a RAW workflow has been learned in about 2 hours this week.
There's no noise reduction applied, but it seems like the downscale helped clean things up and give a more film like quality.
The app is a bit clunky, but is obviously in beta and can't be fully criticized yet. Manual focus would be amazing and there were some exposure shifts that may or may not have been my fault. If someone sold this technology with a MFT lens mount on it as a modern 8mm camera I would for sure buy one. It's been fun and I'm enjoying learning about RAW correction/ grading.
There seems to be a few people catching on to the app on YouTube. People with more powerful phones seem to be having better luck with things. Hopefully development continues with success and RED doesn't interfere!

So, I recently picked up a Pixel 5a on sale and gave the Motion Cam app a go on it. I've been having some fun and finding some fairly consistent results with the full sensor (4032X3024) @ 12FPS. I think the sensor size comes close to super 8mm sizing and the results definitely have an 8mm vibe.
The screen grab below is from a cinemaDNG sequence dropped into Resolve on a 1080p/ rec709/ linear timeline -> color space transform (which I didn't even know you could use in the free version) ARRI LogC output gamma -> ARRI Alexa LogC to rec709 LUT -> bumped up the saturation a bit and brought the shadows down with the log wheels
Be gentle; what I know of a RAW workflow has been learned in about 2 hours this week.
There's no noise reduction applied, but it seems like the downscale helped clean things up and give a more film like quality.
The app is a bit clunky, but is obviously in beta and can't be fully criticized yet. Manual focus would be amazing and there were some exposure shifts that may or may not have been my fault. If someone sold this technology with a MFT lens mount on it as a modern 8mm camera I would for sure buy one. It's been fun and I'm enjoying learning about RAW correction/ grading.
There seems to be a few people catching on to the app on YouTube. People with more powerful phones seem to be having better luck with things. Hopefully development continues with success and RED doesn't interfere!

So, I recently picked up a Pixel 5a on sale and gave the Motion Cam app a go on it. I've been having some fun and finding some fairly consistent results with the full sensor (4032X3024) @ 12FPS. I think the sensor size comes close to super 8mm sizing and the results definitely have an 8mm vibe.
The screen grab below is from a cinemaDNG sequence dropped into Resolve on a 1080p/ rec709/ linear timeline -> color space transform (which I didn't even know you could use in the free version) ARRI LogC output gamma -> ARRI Alexa LogC to rec709 LUT -> bumped up the saturation a bit and brought the shadows down with the log wheels
Be gentle; what I know of a RAW workflow has been learned in about 2 hours this week.
There's no noise reduction applied, but it seems like the downscale helped clean things up and give a more film like quality.
The app is a bit clunky, but is obviously in beta and can't be fully criticized yet. Manual focus would be amazing and there were some exposure shifts that may or may not have been my fault. If someone sold this technology with a MFT lens mount on it as a modern 8mm camera I would for sure buy one. It's been fun and I'm enjoying learning about RAW correction/ grading.
There seems to be a few people catching on to the app on YouTube. People with more powerful phones seem to be having better luck with things. Hopefully development continues with success and RED doesn't interfere!

The most important question -
Is Peter McKinnon switching?

First glimpse of Canon's true flagship mirrorless slated for 2022:
54MP 9000 X 6000 resolution with 4um pixel size
Quad Pixel AF
1/450s sensor readout (2.2ms rolling shutter)
Dual-15bit Sigma-Delta ADC
Fully electronic shutter with no mechnical component (same as Z9).

So, I recently picked up a Pixel 5a on sale and gave the Motion Cam app a go on it. I've been having some fun and finding some fairly consistent results with the full sensor (4032X3024) @ 12FPS. I think the sensor size comes close to super 8mm sizing and the results definitely have an 8mm vibe.
The screen grab below is from a cinemaDNG sequence dropped into Resolve on a 1080p/ rec709/ linear timeline -> color space transform (which I didn't even know you could use in the free version) ARRI LogC output gamma -> ARRI Alexa LogC to rec709 LUT -> bumped up the saturation a bit and brought the shadows down with the log wheels
Be gentle; what I know of a RAW workflow has been learned in about 2 hours this week.
There's no noise reduction applied, but it seems like the downscale helped clean things up and give a more film like quality.
The app is a bit clunky, but is obviously in beta and can't be fully criticized yet. Manual focus would be amazing and there were some exposure shifts that may or may not have been my fault. If someone sold this technology with a MFT lens mount on it as a modern 8mm camera I would for sure buy one. It's been fun and I'm enjoying learning about RAW correction/ grading.
There seems to be a few people catching on to the app on YouTube. People with more powerful phones seem to be having better luck with things. Hopefully development continues with success and RED doesn't interfere!

So, I recently picked up a Pixel 5a on sale and gave the Motion Cam app a go on it. I've been having some fun and finding some fairly consistent results with the full sensor (4032X3024) @ 12FPS. I think the sensor size comes close to super 8mm sizing and the results definitely have an 8mm vibe.
The screen grab below is from a cinemaDNG sequence dropped into Resolve on a 1080p/ rec709/ linear timeline -> color space transform (which I didn't even know you could use in the free version) ARRI LogC output gamma -> ARRI Alexa LogC to rec709 LUT -> bumped up the saturation a bit and brought the shadows down with the log wheels
Be gentle; what I know of a RAW workflow has been learned in about 2 hours this week.
There's no noise reduction applied, but it seems like the downscale helped clean things up and give a more film like quality.
The app is a bit clunky, but is obviously in beta and can't be fully criticized yet. Manual focus would be amazing and there were some exposure shifts that may or may not have been my fault. If someone sold this technology with a MFT lens mount on it as a modern 8mm camera I would for sure buy one. It's been fun and I'm enjoying learning about RAW correction/ grading.
There seems to be a few people catching on to the app on YouTube. People with more powerful phones seem to be having better luck with things. Hopefully development continues with success and RED doesn't interfere!

Here's the link to GitHub for the motioncam app:
https://github.com/mirsadm/motioncam/releases
I am going to see if I can get this to work on my Pixel 3 XL tonight. Here's hoping, but google uses slow storage.

Wow
Tested on my Poco X3. TLDR: barely functional but promising.
Settings: anything aside RAW10<->RAW16 show little effect on performance. "Raw video memory usage" seems to benefit from being maxed out but it's more a feeling than fact. You'll have to select "raw video" and exposure settings every time you switch from app's main screen (like switching between apps or entering settings). OIS can be activated but doesn't work in my case, thus the image is shaky. Focus control is kind of distributed strangely: 90% of slider is mapped to nearest 1m, the rest of focusing range is cramped in the tiny space at the right end. Nice for macro, I guess, not for anything else. AWB should be locked or it will affect the image otherwise.
Raw: I was able to get mostly reliable recording in all conditions at max crop (40% H/V, 2772x2082) at 24/25 fps for durations about up to 1-1,5 min. Was not testing for longer times because of huge file sizes and some quirks. I was able to record 4K-ish resolutions (4112x2082) outdoors (it's about 0°C now) but it drops frames starting from 15-20s indoors. Overheating? No framing guides for crop area - use your imagination looking at full sensor image feed. Raw images are initially written in chunks of 900 frames as zip archive somewhere in system folders (haven't found location yet). You have to manually unzip and transfer them as dngs in "manage videos" by tapping "queue" button. You can set the destination folder once at first conversion, I was not able to find this setting anywhere else, the only way to change this directory was to reinstall the app. And yeah, no sound at all yet.
Processing: transfer times are huge on my phone mostly because of USB2 transfer speed. Files are bulky, I filled 60GB of free space just with a dozen of clips. Considering buying TF card to unzip dngs and swapping it out to card reader (if projects goes well in this direction). AE2021 and Resolve 17 work well with dng sequences, Premiere 2021 refused to import. I had to rename dng sequence according to unique folder name manually because they were named with same base name - frame-#####.dng. There is some glitchy "transitional zone" between two 900-frame chunks where frames are randomly tossed to different chunks. At first I thought it was just frame dropouts but later I was able to reconstruct frame order manually at post - see image. Image quality is much better, especially at moderately high ISOs (800-1600). Compressed image degrades at this range - details are getting mushy, colors - muddy. Raw on the contrary has very manageable grain structure and highlight rolloff, lacks any sharpening. DR is better in a sense that you're getting more usable DR but it's far from being cinema camera wide - you should be careful with highlights, and the absence of any exposure assisting tools doesn't help at all.
Is it worth trying? Yes, I think. It's not the way you'd shoot something for fast turnarounds, or for a long duration. It's more an artistic experiment. The project is in a very early stage now but it's all about polishing interface and performance, adding useful features, improving general stability - the core idea is functional. I'm really happy to stumble upon this project - I haven't feel such joy and excitement since shooting photos with Nokia 808. Basically it's a 8mm raw camera you have no excuses not to carry with you all the time.

The Pixel 3 XL is dropping frames like nobody's business! Hopefully someone with a powerful phone can have fun with this.

No, I would love to give it a try someday. I'm waiting for one of these Chinese monitor manufacturers to compete with Atomos in the prores recorder space. I'm a horder when it comes to original footage. Even when I put together finished videos I can't seem to let go of the original clips. So, the higher bit rates would bury me in TBs of files in no time.
I will eventually purchase an external monitor either way. I'm a manual focus guy and I find it beyond annoying to nail focus with these puny screens we are supposed to just accept as the standard on mirrorless cameras. I would love to use my phone for this purpose, but that's never as easy as it sounds. Hell, I can't even get the Panasonic app to work with my cameras anymore!
As a side note; the tilt screen on the gx85 is my favorite thing. I can't stand looking off to the side to see my g85 screen.

Kye, I'm sure you've figured it out, but just-in-case you haven't, those gf3 batteries will work in the gx85. Quite a revelation for me, as I had three genuine batteries going to waste.
I love this camera and have recently thought about buying another one just to mount to another lens. I use primes and these cameras are too inexpensive not to consider that a reasonable move.
I often refer to this thread:
when in need of some inspiration to shoot with my gx85/ g85. The WB notes from Andy Lee are particularly of use. I played with those suggestions and have been much happier with the colors I get out of these cameras since.
 
 
 

Kye, I'm sure you've figured it out, but just-in-case you haven't, those gf3 batteries will work in the gx85. Quite a revelation for me, as I had three genuine batteries going to waste.
I love this camera and have recently thought about buying another one just to mount to another lens. I use primes and these cameras are too inexpensive not to consider that a reasonable move.
I often refer to this thread:
when in need of some inspiration to shoot with my gx85/ g85. The WB notes from Andy Lee are particularly of use. I played with those suggestions and have been much happier with the colors I get out of these cameras since.
 
 
 

One recent example

In addition to the new Z Cam model, Accsoon announced their own product which seems better designed physicall. Rather than needing to mount it somewhere, it is the phone holder. It has a NPF battery sled, and I'd assume that means it'll charge your phone simultaneously, plus a cold shoe on top. I also see some nice locating pin holes on the bottom.
Z Cam though has the benefit of controlling compatible cameras with a USB cable. Would be nice to combine them and get the physical design of Accsoon with camera control.

It would be cool (and not that surprising!) if Accsoon made a version that could receive a wireless signal from their CineEye transmitter in addition to HDMI.

Glad to see Z Cam is still chugging away on some useful things.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CT9I65OrGTY/?utm_medium=copy_link
https://www.instagram.com/p/CT9JVpSrjBW/?utm_medium=copy_link
 
 
 

2014, eh?  So what's happening with Bill Cosby?  We ever find that Malaysian airliner?

Normally my wife and I normally make documentary films as our creative outlet.  We just produced and shot a narrative short film.  Man, that shit is hard to do.  God bless the intrepid.  That is all.
https://www.facebook.com/AGiftForAllAgesFilm/