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Panasonic GH6
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The Cost for Panasonic to have Sony manufacture a MFT 4/3 sensor, that isn’t a security camera sensor with a very narrow feature set, is probably rising by the day. Especially since Olympus is essentially gone.
They said they were going to look into leaning into MFT strengths and their next cameras was...the BGH1.
I would be very surprised to see a GH6, especially since Panasonic had been completely quiet.
They would be better off making their FF cameras competitive because everything is trending up from there.
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11 minutes ago, newfoundmass said:
It lacks the resolution and frame rate options, anamorphic modes, RAW, and codecs that the Pocket 6K Pro has. And it costs more than twice as much. These are major features that productions want in a camera.
If you don't see why this is a far more superior value than the C70 I don't know what to say.
They both have their place & uses. Personally I see the C70 has a more reliable, better built workhorse camera without RAW.
I think the more apt comparison would be between this and REDs “crash cam” Komodo. This makes a much better crash cam money wise and also has more useful features for 1/2 the price.
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Ugly duckling but useful features. Somehow they made the Pocket camera even bigger and bulkier.
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26 minutes ago, RWR said:
One of the GH5 variants had that, I believe.
GH5S
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5 minutes ago, pixelpreaching said:
Sony Venice
What your arrow is pointing at is the lens mount essentially. You can remove the lens mount block from the Venice, keep it tethered to the camera via a cable, and place it elsewhere so it can fit where the whole camera cannot. Like in say an airplane cockpit facing the pilot or a race car facing the driver.
Ok, I found an image on Sony's website. Doesn't look quite the same to me. You're probably right though.
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Will probably still have the same crappy 3.0" 1.44M dot LCD screen on it, that much is for sure!
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What camera is this?
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14 hours ago, IronFilm said:
Many of us thought an a7 series (or similar hybrid) from Sony would have had an eND within 2-3yrs back 2-3yrs ago!!
We'll probably see another couple of years pass by once again with nothing happening....So you thought you would get an eND before 10-bit? I think its coming. They are running out of things to compete on.
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On 2/6/2021 at 1:25 PM, ntblowz said:
Yesterday I was shooting bowl jam all day using mix of 4k25/50/100p, i didn't get the overheating warning but I did get down to 5 min
How long did you actually shoot if you can remember? I had mine out the other day in -2C weather (wind chill was pretty bitter) shot up to the imposed 30min restriction, changed battery, and SD card and turned the camera back on and it said I had full recording ability. Camera was off for like 5 mins. So its definitely factoring in the actual temps with latest firmware.
Still wish they would improve it more so I can essential forget about it.
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On 10/8/2020 at 9:38 PM, Pikepike said:
Since the newer T7 is only $20 more and runs considerably faster on my computer
I use a T7 as an editing drive that I have Velcro'd to the back of the screen of my M1 MacBook Pro and it has been great. Drive mounts fast and editing has had zero hiccups with supplied USB-C cable. I did briefly use another cable I had (a shorter one in an attempt to clean up the rig a bit) but I was having weird problems and dips to 200MB/s writing via BM drive speed test app. I threw the cable in the bin. So I guess, not all USB-C cables are the same. I average ~700MB/s for reading/writing with the supplied cable.
I welcome USB-C everything but they gotta sort out the cabling and branding Thunderbolt 4/USB4/USB3.2 v2.2412. REV @45234 Bin 5 or whatever the hell they name this shit.
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13 hours ago, IronFilm said:
Very very few FX9 owners could 100% replace their FX9 with a Sony a1, they're too drastically different.
Perhaps, but Sony A1 + XLR-K3M is a compelling setup. No internal ND or SDI. I would bet money Sony will release a mirrorless camera like A1 or A7S with a eND within the next 2-3 years.
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Panasonic GH6
In: Cameras
8 hours ago, BTM_Pix said:Without some significant upgrades, it might also bring MFT users including GH5 owners to that fork in the road where they choose another route.
Yep, and that describes exactly what I did. When they released the S5 without PDAF I saw the writing on the wall. I simply want a camera with excellent AF regardless if I use it 90% of the time or 30% of the time...it's there when I need it.
It's a shame really, Panasonic offers all these excellent features, great camera bodies that double as weapons, good menus, excellent features sets, great firmware updates, but the market demands good AF and they have been left behind.
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Panasonic GH6
In: Cameras
20 hours ago, newfoundmass said:It's not that I'm opposed to 8K, I just really hope it's more than a GH5 but with 8K. I just don't think that's enough to ensure that M43 will be viable (outside of Japan anyway, where apparently it was the most popular mount last year) moving forward.
On 2/3/2021 at 5:30 PM, kye said:Personally I don't mind if it goes 8K, because the GH5 is 5K and I shoot 1080, so a 2.5x oversampling to a 4x oversampling isn't a large difference.
People shouldn't be opposed to 8K cameras. As the R5 and now the A1 show, the best thing Panasonic could do to improve a MFT sized sensor image is to aim for 8K and use the extra resolution to downsample a superb 6K, 4K, and 2K image with less noise and more DR from cleaner shadows. Offer 8K open gate 4:3 anamorphic which no one is doing in mirrorless.
But the single biggest thing Panasonic could do to sell their cameras is:
Offer reliability Phase Detect AF with face and eye tracking. DfD is stigmatized no matter how much they improve it.
FF mirrorless has really taken huge leap in performance in the past 2 years. I'm not sure MFT has a place anymore and I really loved my MFT cameras. I just don't know what they could make, besides a Sony A1 at 1/4 the cost, that would sell.
As a MFT fanboy for many years, Panasonic would do better to focus entirely on FF and fix their AF and compete on their excellent feature while bringing in more cinema level features and color. It's the only way they will stay relevant in the shrinking market.
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On 2/1/2021 at 2:47 PM, androidlad said:
A1 seems to have insane rolling shutter performance for video. Only 2ms for 8K 30P, thanks to DRAM being made available for video read-out modes for the first time ever.
In stills mode, this increases to 5ms @14bit readout.
Thats ARRI Alexa levels of rolling shutter and approaching ARRI Alexa levels of dynamic range as well.
Seems to me, based off Gerald's hands on with it, that it is perhaps worth the price tag for people that don't want or need a flip screen and wants a hybrid camera that does it all, at least the best one so far.
I wonder how FX9 owners are feeling now?
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8 hours ago, tupp said:
The word "Black" in the filter's name refers to the tiny black particles embedded in the filter to absorb light that scatters sideways through the diffusion, thus reducing "glow haze" and "halos."
This black particle technique first appeared in Harrison & Harrison Black Dot diffusion filters.
yes, and those preserving the blacks without lifting them up.
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Black Promist is one of the best "mist" filters that preserves contrast, especially in the blacks, hence its name. I think it is money well spent to have a 1/8 or a 1/4 black promist in your bag. I haven't used any of the other filters.
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Well, hedge funds double shorting stock should maybe be more careful next time.
11 hours ago, Robert Collins said:So if you currently hold GME stock valued at US$250 a share you have already been 'pumped and dumped'
Highly doubt the majority of GME stock holders care.
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20 minutes ago, Andrew Reid said:
Who is dumping? Last time I looked GME is still above $250 and that's in spite of Wall Street trying to get it down.
Some, I'm sure are. But probably a majority are like you and threw several hundred dollars in to the circus ring. They aren't jumping the barrier to get it back. Thats bad news for hedge funds. It's pump and popcorn.
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10 hours ago, helium said:
A "depressingly cynical viewpoint" (see above) is exactly what reality demands. Anything less is factually incorrect or wanton self-delusion. For those who regard Robinhood -- at least in its idealized form -- as the great equalizer, think again. Robinhood, you'll recall, doesn't charge brokerage fees. How then does it make money?
Well, it sells your data -- your purchases, sales, hedges -- to (you guessed it) hedge funds BEFORE your trades are executed.
"Given that Robinhood is playing a central role in retail investors pumping dark horse stocks, it’s worth examining once again how it makes money: namely, by selling users’ trades to other large firms before they’re actually executed. Those firms make money by effectively seeing what the retail investors on Robinhood are going to do before they actually do it, and acting accordingly. Those firms are basically buying information that then informs their own trades."
Granted, this didn't work out so well for Melvin Capital -- you can't instantly correct a huge short position -- but others did profit.
And Robinhood fucked up too and showed their bare ass for all to see. So not only was the actions of hedge funds exposed to the masses in a meaningful way but also the twisted web of factions inside wall street which I predict will take hurt Robinhood's business.
Suddenly trying to take the high road has become factually incorrect and wanton self-delusion. Okay then.... I think we can advocate for a better reality and existence without this kind of unnecessary burden.
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6 hours ago, Robert Collins said:
On the other hand, destroying your own wealth, to try destroying a hedge fund (Melvin Capital) because you believe they are destroying other people is a life affirming virtuous circle?
Revenge trading is simply a destructive circle and I 100% guarantee you wont get your money back!!
A few hundred thousand people throwing $100 into a hat is not wealth to many people. I didn’t say it was life affirming. I simply said people are doing it as a form of protest now. And the reaction of some of these certain hedge fund people just affirms why people have disgust for their behavior and their actions and more people pile on.
And probably a lot of people doing this are victims of these same hedge fund and Wall Street types that wiped out many families wealth in 2008. So I can understand their emotions and cause. So you could say it’s revenge with low risk and good rewards that seem to be paying out.
If you read my post more deeply you would realize that I was advocating for some self-realization dose applied equally for all.
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As dedicated cameras have become more niche and the market isn't as large, I suspect more companies will play around with MF. I think they will stay expensive because the volume will be so low.
I think we are going to be moving into the age of "I want my bokeh to be a real physical effect caused by combination of sensor, lens, focal length and aperture" because I'm a purist and "digital bokeh is good enough for me". So maybe sensor size will be effectively digitized like everything else.
Video of course will most likely be the last hold out as faking the digital effects convincingly will be a computer power, time, and battery life issue. Here is where maybe MF can eek out an existence.
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1 hour ago, Andrew Reid said:
It's a moral issue, and a punt. A gamble, to see if it works.
It's a $100+ middle finger that many people happily parted with.
20 hours ago, Robert Collins said:But seriously the odd burps from financial markets arent going to change anything - the rich will get richer and well everyone else will simply have to get by.... The Hamptons may not be a defensible position but revolutions were never created on gambling sites on the internet. Enjoy the fun while it lasts...
Kind of reminds me of The Hunger Games....
This is a depressing cynical viewpoint and actually points to the core of the current problems in this world. Maybe if everybody was a little less cynical, a little less jaded, a little less full of themselves, a little more joyful the world would be a vastly better place; 100% money back guaranteed it would.
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I much prefer glidecam style footage when feet are on the ground. It's stabilized enough but allows some organic movement to come through. Much more dynamic and natural looking to my eyes. The whole robotic gimbal floating camera shit is overdone and misused in my opinion.
Panasonic GH6
In: Cameras
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Panasonic should release a S5S (lol) with Sony's 12MP sensor in A7SIII but without a mechanical shutter and a internal ND solution. Throw in some kind of internal RAW of some kind and it will be attractive vs A7SIII even without Sony level AF.
With a good telephoto it can take great pictures. But, I agree. Panasonic should make a future video centric camera more like a FX3 than the GH5S.