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DVXuser is a good place, also on here. 

1 hour ago, Mokara said:

Well, the A7S and A7SII both have low pixel counts, so I don't see why the A7SIII would have something different. You do know that the A7S series have a low pixel count sensor right? The only reason to increase the pixel count above what it is now would be 8K, and the pixel count will not go lower than what it currently is due to the compromise it would impose on resolution. The A7S sensor is designed around video, low light stills photography is secondary to that. 

They could be going away from that route, I hope not. 

24 minutes ago, Mokara said:

For an oversampled 8K sensor you would need about 48 mpixels. I doubt it will have that though, more likely oversampled 4K, which you can do with 12 mpixels. High frame rates at 4K are likely, along with higher bit depths and some sort of raw capability. Much improved AF is a certainty.

Yeah I am hoping they go the 4k sensor low MP route. 

15 minutes ago, PrometheusDM said:

I've seen some amazing video done with Panasonic S1. I don't think the AF is an issue unless you track sport movement. It's more than enough for most people need. 

This camera has more features than my skills.

I've seen some nice looking videos too, but consistency in real life usage is probably not there. We'll see when more reviews come in. 

3 minutes ago, PrometheusDM said:

For stills, DPAF, Sony, Nikon all use phase detection that cause banding issues under certain lighting environment or raise the shadow.

This may or may not matter for video, but it's a concern for me since I primarily shoot stills. I've seen in various group and forum that show those artifacts make it unusable. This happens in EOS R, Sony A7/R, Nikon Z series camera. Sony A9 is the only one that doesn't exhibit this with the fast read out. It's rare occurrence but it does happens.

The easy way is to follow the pack and adopt PDAF at the expense of image quality. They won't ridicule on the net anymore.

I actually think it's bold of them to adopt a non compromise approach to image quality and go against standard practice. They are constantly attack for their choice in sticking with DFD. Despite all these ridicule, I found the latest version 1 FW AF to be usable. There is no pulsating and it's fast. It focus really fast in low light and track well enough for non sport activity. If you are using it for photo, it's a non issue while have no banding issues.

Sure the AF may not be the best, but it's more than usable since it's combination of features is the closest to being a perfect camera for me. It's also one camera I've been the most excited for. I've been a Canon users only for 10 years that was interested in Sony A7III, A7RIII, A9 etc. All those camera has compromises in some way that goes beyond features.

 

I agree its a great camera especially for their first full frame. I can understand it from a photography perspective but for their video centered GH cameras they really need to get on the phase detect band wagon. 

On 4/1/2019 at 6:46 AM, IronFilm said:

Forget about it, it is not a great sensor. (as I believe it is the same sensor as in their studio cameras)
Skip 4K, get an OG BMPCC or Micro Cinema Camera for your S16 lenses. 

Its got 4k 60p, 444 and internal ND's tho.

I am more interested in the BM Ursa 4K cinema camera with the global shutter.

EOS R is kind of a no brainer if you have Canon lenses and don't need 4k. Other wise if you want 4k with no crop the S1 is a great option or the Nikon Z6 for something more affordable. 

1 hour ago, kye said:

Not until you're delivering in 4K.

Seriously, as the owner of a 4K monitor the only uses for it are delivering in 4K or as a tool to reduce time spent on story and increase time spent pixel peeping.

I guess you could also argue that 4K monitor is useful to have a 1080 window with room for a GUI in your NLE, that's useful too.

too late I got one?

1 hour ago, IronFilm said:

The a7S mk2  successo r is here at last!

 

damnit I believed that!

I want to see his opinion on the XT3. 

2 hours ago, tomsemiterrific said:

Menus are simpler, color is BETTER---MUCH better, pic profile presets are great, great looks out of the camera from many pic profiles, better stabilization, great native lenses, buttons are placed better, MUCH better EVF and LCD, better feel--better construction, no over heating issues in normal use. The Nikon equals the remarkable dynamic range and low light performance of the Sony. Hands down, the Nikon is a much more lovely and satisfying shooting experience. You don't have to spend forever tweaking those cursed endless list of image tweaks in the pic profiles---you've got great looks you can easily customize to your needs and/or tastes, and then GO SHOOT.

But the real thing is the IQ. It's far better than the Z7III, and skin tones are a quantum leap better. Without that nothing else would matter.

I have a review of the Nikon Z6---it's critical insofar as I'm asking Nikon to make some firmware changes to give video shooters a better shooting experience, but even without those changes the Nikon is superior. Besides my reviews, a more complete and fair look at the camera is given by Sareesh Sudhakaran. Here is his latest review:

He also has just published a guide for the Z6, and has 6 EXCELLENT cinematic picture profiles you can download for free in place them into the camera's selection of profiles.

that's about all I've got. If you get it I think you'll fall in love with shooting it.

In fact, I have two---one I just purchased about a month ago and have used very little. If you want to purchase it I'll give you a good price. I'm having to also sell my X-H1---we just discovered a bad leak UNDER our house that must be repaired--which means creating a hole in MY closet near where the leak is located and digging until the leaking pipe is reached, silvery soldering it and closing it up. Total cost: $2000.00---and I'm not sure that includes the repair of the hole they have to put in our foundation. SUCKS.

Whoever buys it I'm going to have to sell it. It's really new, since all I've done it test it in studio on the tripod---I do have Sudehakaran's picture profiles loaded into it, and I think my settings for video are better than his. Anyway, I hope you enjoy his presentation. 

Its definitely a very tempting camera. That reviewer you posted was a bit harsh on it though. 

4 hours ago, deezid said:

It looks basically exactly the same lol
Same fringing
same sharpening halos
same noise reduction

 

Since the ARRI Alexa doesn't have sharpening halos when shooting ProRes, nor my exported ProRes footage does and Braw and ProRes on this camera look exactly the same on the P4K I really don't think so.

Really didn't switch from the GH5 to the P4K for BMD to apply even more noise reduction aka texture reducer than Panasonic...

Do you own the pocket? I was implying maybe the person sharpened it in post. I don't know though I don't have an eye for spotting this type of thing. 

56 minutes ago, webrunner5 said:

Doesn't seem like may have a clue how to grade it. I will say it looks nicer than ProRes out of the PK4. Maybe people are just going to have to learn it better.

True but that goes for pretty much any camera. Most cameras are offering log now and people think that is the way to go. 

22 minutes ago, deezid said:

Not that the P4K looks bad, but these sharpening halos (easiliy visible in the thumbnail around the jacket even) make the P4K look way less organic than the original BMCC.

Was shot in either ProRes or Braw. Cdng doesn't show any of these internal processing issues when sharpening in Resolve is set to 0. Still wondering why BMD joined Panasonic, Sony, Canon (since EOS R) etc...

You sure its not processing rather than the codec itself? 

6 minutes ago, webrunner5 said:

Yeah they turned a unique, pure  look into a mainstream look. Crazy long term plan to me?

I don't know man 4k RAW at 1k is not a bad plan to me.

10 hours ago, Mark Romero 2 said:

Thanks in advance.

Two more questions / requests for you.

1) You mentioned you were pretty happy with the Z6 compared to the a7 III. Can you kind of list the reasons why you like the Z6 better than the a7 III?

2) Do you know of a good manual focus lens around 20mm to adapt to the Z6? Something with minimal distortion preferably? (I know that might be hard to find in a wide angle lens).

I've had good results with the Tokina 16mm 

Yeah these are heavily used for video. Cheapest "cine" lenses you can buy. The reason I opted against getting them was manufacturing inconsistency. Some people seem to get great copies that do really well wide open while others not so great. 

But in general they are a great option, especially considering how cheap they are.

Yeah these are heavily used for video. Cheapest "cine" lenses you can buy. The reason I opted against getting them was manufacturing inconsistency. Some people seem to get great copies that do really well wide open while others not so great. 

But in general they are a great option, especially considering how cheap they are.

3 minutes ago, ade towell said:

Yes funny how the S1`is the only camera that ticks all of the boxes from the OP and yet folk then feel the need to move the goalposts and ignore it. I think the S1 is by far the most compelling of all the recent mirrorless 'full frame' cameras, and the image is looking lovely to my eyes. Here's another little short, love the colours

 

No doubt the S1 is pretty awesome. 

However the OP stated Canon specifically. Its a given that a high end Canon camera will have A+ auto focus. Panasonic kind of dropped the ball not adding phase detection. There excuse about it degrading image quality seemed pretty far fetched. I've never heard anyone not buying a Canon camera due to the DPAF causing IQ problems. 

39 minutes ago, Sage said:

Sure; it depends on what you'd like. Fuji and BMD have very good, usable color. I personally will use P4K with GH5; I hope to have EC to do a production this summer.

8 bit is tricky; I'd prefer to only support 10 bit cameras, though I will try to find a way that will give viable production level results with 8-bit. I think Log is not really in the cards there.

 

Bit of really cool news; last weekend, the director of a film starring Josh Hartnett wrote to me to say that they were using the GH5 with EC as a pick-up cam alongside Alexa Minis and XTs.

He said that a senior Star Wars colorist was doing the grade, and said that 'everybody was very impressed' with it. I was pretty thrilled with that

dang dude nice work! If you do one for the XT3 I'll definitely consider it. If it matches well with the GH5 it would be a great way to use both cameras without worrying about color matching. 

32 minutes ago, currensheldon said:

The Panasonic S1 does have all of that now.

It's sort of weird how much people have been ripping on the S1 - No, it's not a full-frame GH5, but with the upcoming V-Log/10-bit update, it's pretty darn close. Every other manufacturer gives us internal 8-bit 420 (Sony, Nikon, Canon), big crops (Canon), no 60 fps (everyone), etc.

Add on that Panasonic has the best ergonomics for video by far (in my opinion) and a great XLR adapter, and you have a very capable camera. 

 

Yeah it pretty much is a full frame GH5 with the update. Would be nice if HLG wasn't capped at 72mbps as there isn't a big need for the Vlog update if it wasn't. 

The question is it better than just doing Flog to Arrilog 

Fuji is going to be the first to deliver most of what you want except no full frame. Unless Sony beats them to it or maybe the 1DX MK3

Internal Prores would be my dream for Fuji. 

Electronic ND will be a huge bonus. 

22 minutes ago, Kisaha said:

Where does it say "raw"?

says 12  bit and 14 bit RAW

37 minutes ago, androidlad said:

The sensor itself is not capable of 4K 120P. Unlike the original E2, this uses a stills-oriented sensor.

unfortunate

Still in comparison with an EVA1 its $2500 cheaper and does internal RAW as well as maybe prores and at a higher resolution. The XT3 sensor is really nice if its the one being used. 

Wish it was $1000 cheaper but for what you get its really not a bad price. 

Internal ND's are a must. Would be nice if they threw in an SD card slot as well for lower bitrate recording. 

The awesome thing about this camera is the recording options. RAW as well as H264 and H265, and Prores(I assume they will put in Prores as well?)

4k 120fps would have been a really smart move even if it means making the camera larger. 

Sigma already has a lot of nice full frame glass, it was a good move.