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2 minutes ago, Andrew Reid said:

The DJI Z7 thing I've seen rumoured for NAB looks entirely bonkers

 

That looks incredibly ugly. Looks like a small M43 camera/gimbal mounted to a camcorder style body thing. Interesting idea but would make more sense if it was a standard gimbal that you could attach any camera too. The design looks a bit impractical tho.

12 hours ago, Snowbro said:

If they add 4k 60 4:2:2 they can join 2016

If they pull it off in full frame they'll be ahead of everyone.

Those are really dope! Loved that Billie Eilish one!

speaking of crazy stuff, now if it had been Mission Impossible Tom Cruise would have actually driven a car off a 160 story building ??
 

1 hour ago, drm said:

Yes, I think so. The noise reduction in Davinci Resolve is very good. I have used ISOs 10000 & 12800 a couple of times and have gotten usable footage after processing. I am surprised at how well the footage cleans up.

Every once in a while, you are forced to use crazy high ISOs. For example, yesterday, I had a presenter from a giant Silicon Valley tech company that refused to allow the theater stage lights on during her presentation. She claimed the lights would blind her and she wouldn't be able to see the audience. So, I had someone on a stage, with a projector screen behind her and no light on her, other than splash from a few lights on the audience. I had to run ISO 12,800 with f/1.2 lenses and was still about 1/2 stop underexposed. She was so dark that she was basically a shadow to your naked eye. Of course, she also didn't want to wear a lav. She insisted that she could be heard fine without one. At least I won that battle and got my lav on her during the presentation.

The footage from that event is certainly worse than I would have liked, but at least it is usable. If I had only had access to normal cameras, the footage would have been completely unusable. At some point, I will do some comparisons, but my use tells me that the GH5s is a stop or so better in low light than the P4K, before correcting in Resolve.

Yeah I would guess because the GH5 uses more NR straight out of camera. 

That is a sucky situation. Backdrop was probably super blown out haha. Some people are really lame to work with. 

4 hours ago, drm said:

 

Earlier today, I even found myself wishing that the GH5s footage had been BRAW!  Weird, I know...

Not weird at all! Can the Pocket 4k match the GH5S with noise reduction applied? 

1 hour ago, newfoundmass said:

It's not that we're surprised 8K is coming, it's that Sony has not yet released a mirrorless camera that can do 4K60p, so the idea that the A7Siii will jump straight up to 8K doesn't make much sense. They'd need a massive technological breakthrough to achieve that in a tiny body. Who knows though? Maybe with a 1 minute recording limit?! ?

It might make sense to justify the price difference if it is indeed 3k plus. Its true they've not done 4k 60 yet, but they are a bit behind the times right now. Sony is often front runner tech I feel like. Wouldn't surprise me if they took a large leap to put themselves ahead of everyone. 

I liked the story but I thought visuals were boring. Color and everything looked good though. 

B looked sharper at least in the color graded close up. 

Panasonic vlog in 8 bit isn't very usable. 

8 hours ago, eatstoomuchjam said:

The P4K doesn't really have "better codec options" at this point unless you mean braw - and that will probably be less of a competitive advantage when ZCam release the first version of their raw implementation sometime this month.  Otherwise, the ZCam has ProRes HQ at up to 4kp30 and ProRes 422 at up to 4kp60 as well as h.265 with decent bitrate.  If you tested months ago, the quality of 4kp120 has improved since then - they upped the bitrate on it a bit.  In the next release, they are upping it more (I think to 500 megabits/second).

And you're very likely right about the A73 sensor - or something similar to it.  In general, if you check the features of a Z-Cam vs a list of modern Sony sensors, you'll find that they align really nicely.  It's why people keep asking about 4kp120 in the bigger sensor cameras and getting turned down.  None of the bigger Sony sensors support it.

The BMPCC4K is a great camera and a fantastic value, no doubt about it, but the E2 is also excellent and I'm glad I bought it over the BM.  I love that I can rig it on a big heavy shoulder rig with huge EF lenses and F-970/V-mount batteries for long life... or I can throw on a tiny Micro 4/3 prime like the Panasonic 14/2.5 or 20/1.7 and put in an F550-type battery and have a super tiny light camera.

The lack of a built-in screen is mitigated very nicely by being able to wire in my phone as a screen which I very much prefer to using wifi - it gives me an excellent 5" or so low-latency screen with a built-in battery.  Not bad.

I know the image quality is very good but how do you like the color science? 

we can hope 



That Joker movie looks great tho.

On 4/2/2019 at 10:44 PM, Snowbro said:

XT3 is awesome, but a little noisy and not a fan of the fuji lenses (too expensive for apsc and many dont af good or are too loud). 

The F2 primes seem to work well as well as the 18-55. Big draw for me is getting a full frame image with a speedbooster. The fringer adapter seems to work really well with select lenses like the 18-35 sigma. I buy all my lenses used though so I guess I don't take as much of a hit with the pricing. I think I got the 18-55 for like $150, they go pretty stupid cheap on ebay. 

The big competition was the Pocket 4k for me, but having no auto focus at all doesn't work for me right now and tbh I like the Fuji image better. Having BRAW would be incredible though. Although the Z cam E2 has been catching my eye. I've been trying to rig my cameras up, the Fuji and OG BM Pocket. Would be so nice to be able to just use sony F970 batteries without any rigging. 

Ehhh not feeling it. Should either have 10 bit capabilities or 4k 60p. 

I personally love the E2 form factor. I am tired of dealing with DLSR bodies and their tiny internal batteries. Only thing missing internal ND's. If they had that I would probably be sold on them. Prores + H265 and H264 is a huge win as well. 

Philip Bloom and his sunset shots?

Looks like an incredibly nice setup though. 

I used the Tilta Nucleus M for a 6 day shoot and the over all experience was good. We had a small glitch where one of the motors didn't want to stay on for one of the units, but it seemed to resolve itself(not sure what it was). 

Now this is something I am interested in lol. I'll have to do some testing.

Differences look pretty minimal to me honestly. 

I think its obvious the cameras will look different. The Arri probably has about 3 stops more dynamic range, with a larger sensor and higher bit depth. That said if you are a good colorist and the scene isn't pushing the pockets Dynamic range one should be able to get the cameras looking pretty identical. 

To just throw a LUT on there that isn't even supposed to match an Arri and think it will look the same is silly. There is a reason an Alexa costs 10,000 and up. 

1 hour ago, IronFilm said:

The BMPC4K is indeed dirt cheap, but the URSA Mini 4K with the "same" ("improved") sensor is barely a few pennies more on eBay. 

(but then it is a slippery slope... why not instead the much much better UM4.6K original? Or the UMP? etc etc)

true its that global shutter I am after. The Z cam option is nice but its 1 inch vs 35mm sensor. 
 

I was taken back how different a pan like that looks without rolling shutter.

BM seems to be the type of company that would allow a no sharpening setting in future firmware updates. 

1 hour ago, IronFilm said:

Why? It is big and heavy, with less DR and worse lowlight than the newer cameras. 

And you realize that for 95%+ of people that global shutter is less important than they think?

Yeah but it can be had pretty cheap used and as long as I am using traditional lighting setups or shooting during the day it would be fine. 

I do realize that but after seeing the footage from the new global shutter Z cam I am sold haha. 

20 hours ago, Joowe said:

 

I also have a6500 and I get the colors but many times I need more ISO and here is where the colors fail me. With GH5S this does not happen to me at high ISO but the sensor covers me insufficiently.

At the moment what has failed me with the colors are the lenses, less the APOs.

with m43 lenses in particular? 

8 minutes ago, Video Hummus said:

If Fuji continues to up their video game and listen to their customers the Fuji X-H2 could pull me away from future Panasonic MFT cameras...

I love my versatile MFT mount though.

Yeah, will be interesting if the XH1 is pretty much an XT3 with IBIS, or if they will do even more. The GH5 is definitely a great camera, though I am content with the XT3. Still excited to see what the GH6 will be. 

I used to own the GH5, definitely couldn't perform close to my XT3. A lot of it depends how good the lighting is and of course how shallow you are shooting at.