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Maybe beta tester for https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1436743-REG/fujinon_mk18_55mm_t2_9_m4_3_mk_18_55mm_t2_9_lens.html

Although Filippo Chiesa earlier wrote that conversion was two minutes task to acomplish... 

It might be a nice occasion to compare results of two generations of BM cameras from the same master's DP signature. For me, very hard to judge...

57 minutes ago, mercer said:

Heck, even the Micro Studio 4K now exports a Raw signal through its SDI and could be a great little camera to pair with an external recorder. 

Alas, you need at least Blackmagic HyperDeck Studio Pro to get that Raw signal

9 minutes ago, Kisaha said:

They just send me the official offer 1.750+VAT and a peli style case (worth 90-95€) as a sweetener. Yeah, I am doing it!

 

I don't understand why price in Greece is so high, being in EU (and so close) as Hungary?

5 hours ago, Kisaha said:

I talked today with the official reseller.

Most pre-orders will be serviced until the end of April, and after that they will have a normal flow of cameras. They told me that if I pre order today, they estimate I will have the camera before June.

I think I will do it.

If somehow may help, P4K is already at disposal in Hungary.... (Shop price is about 1500-1550e, if you manage to get back tax, about 1200e)

https://www.gaia.hu/blackmagic-design-pocket-cinema-kamera-4k.html

4 hours ago, mercer said:

I have Blackmagic Cinema Camera as a saved search on my eBay page just in case a Micro or Pocket pops up really cheap and I’ve noticed a significant increase of P4Ks being listed.

So preorders must be filling up pretty quickly now. I guess some people are going to get stuck with 10 P4Ks they won’t be able to sell for a steep profit... lol. 

For new project with my engagement, listening my advice head of production already invested in 2 second hand BM micro cameras

(As you know, their image is unbeatable...)

6 hours ago, stefanocps said:

Onr question about.codec.Are.files produced easy to work with better han those h265 from fuji for example that require very performint pc?also would like to know if i can get ready good footage may be with lut not being that good (yet) in grading?

I'd say there's really no reason to afraid of look of BM files straight out of camera: it is just one click operation to "normalized" them without any exotic manipulation: there's already native BM lut and, say, equally nice free CaptainHook's lut and - voila, footage will look (pretty obviously) better SOC (to say true) than that of "natural" profile of GH5's. Unfortunately, I have no Fuji XT3 to say the same with ground of personal experience... So, please, hurry to buy P4K, play with it and I'm sure that @Kisaha will help you in trouble to get rid of it if you find yourself disappointed

1 hour ago, stefanocps said:

i thought it could be a solution, reselling the bm sill be very easy

Please remember who mentioned it first - especially if you are, as it seems to me, not too faraway, from Greece :)

28 minutes ago, stefanocps said:

it s not easy, there is XT3 competiting

I think that you are on the wonderful safe side of testing at the moment: if you can, buy P4K, test it thoroughly for two weeks, and then you can immediately resell it on EOSHD forum to any of many eagerly waiting hands even for little bit more!

I did  it for fun as a gift and as great fan of horses nature. So, for the same poor reason (and free of publishing restriction) maybe there's chance that it might touch somebody else

32 minutes ago, Kisaha said:

Thanks @mirekti I should say in EU, because UK is not part of EU anymore, and it is not profitable to do business with UK for us EU citizens.

Just to put things in perspective, the camera is 2380€, do the maths to find out aus/nz/us $, and is not readily available, 4-6 weeks for delivery, which isn't bad, but still not good enough for some.

Still pretty interesting though, just not really competitive with the P4K which is exactly 1000€ less.

There is an newly established representative seller based in Slovakia responsible for EU market and also with department in UK,  but I don't know their price. 

https://www.seesense.eu/z-cam/4592949160

Concept of "cinematic" image dictates high end cinema industry. There, I think, you have to recognize turning point of your question. Trying to run out of DR limitation of (unnatural contrasty) consumer cameras, lowlow budget indie creators - which predominate here at forum -  tend to prefer mellow look of film cameras, often to the level that IMO look retro bizarre. But modern cinema prefers and dictates more and more absolutely clean image as standard that, here in our popular pejorative translation, often looks "too-sharp" or "video-ish".

I think that Lubezki nicely summarized that turning point regarding challenge that he experienced:

"When I signed on to do The Revenant, I wanted to do all the day scenes on film, just because of the high dynamic range, and I wanted to do all the dusk and night scenes with a digital camera. That's because the digital cameras are more sensitive to light. They can see more in the shadows, and you can push them a bit. For example, let's say that Arri says their camera is ISO 800 native. You can shoot it at IS0 1600 and there's still no noise. You're able to shoot scenes at night with firelight, and you can capture the stars and the Aurora Borealis in the night sky - things that film couldn’t do.

I started doing a lot of tests while we were rehearsing the movie, and every time I went back to the lab to see the results, the images I was capturing with the digital cameras were more interesting to me because they had less noise or no noise at all. It was like opening a window for the audience to get them immersed in this world, whereas film still had that poetic or romantic look, and the grain and texture was making the world of The Revenantlook more romanticized. It wasn't really allowing me to get immersed into the world of these trappers the way the digital cameras did.

Little by little I realized that I didn't want to shoot the movie on film. For a middle-aged cinematographer who’s been shooting for so many years - that's a very hard call. It's like suddenly saying to a musician “You know, forget about your incredible piano, you're going to play this concert with a Minimoog.” It's heart-breaking, but the images spoke for themselves..."

In result, compare his nature image-depicting of The Revenant with that of, say, Almereida's in Heaven's days.

33 minutes ago, webrunner5 said:

I don't know why but the E2 seems to have a nicer output than the PK4, at least to my eyes. I wish it was a bit cheaper, I would buy one.

More and more it looks to me like micro-Alexa. Or I simply esteem so much that spirit of enthusiast and independent effort.

Olympus om-d em1 II?

https://www.e-infin.com/uk/item/3239/olympus_om-d_e-m1_mark_ii_mk_2_mirrorless_digital_camera_mft_(body_only)_

Even with so-so and not at all lowlight lens, little bit of pure walking:

Overexposed at the face area?

2 hours ago, thebrothersthre3 said:

Way better than the GH5 and its not released yet. Could become something usable.

Thanks, I'm not competent for AF usage, but what I notice at first glance, it is IMO better skin tone rendering (richer in nuances and more natural) on Panasonic.

5 hours ago, tomsemiterrific said:

I agree with one caveat: Northrup does influence a LOT of people. I really think his errors, misconceptions, and  and omissions ought to be pointed out and explained. But attacking him personally, justified or not, can easily look like sour grapes and pettiness.

Stick with the objective content of his commentary and you'll be fine and end up looking good. Will you look as good as Chelsea? Probably not---but still... 

Yes, but how could we know for sure that Northrup influence a LOT of people? It may be, or maybe not, we are just free to subjectively estimate this... That's why I accentuated rather "quality - that means reality - of influence".

Being so often and openly without experience, as also superficial and contradict (even for short period I watched their reviews expecting at least serious approach) they simply look as pair that successfully found business field for further exploration of their entertainment/earning/happy family tactic ... in show-effort better comparable, for example, with that old guy in whose showroom  is forever Christmas (I forgot name), or that  bald-one Nikon martyr with many tatoo.

Not it is just bubbling youtube level par excellence, it is also clip always between two immediately  preceded and followed with opposite and most often equally fast/banal elaboration - i. e. they live perfect in their ecosystem. So, imo they could be very happy that EOSHD just give them more publicity in its totally different, honest, live check and exchanging/fighting thought-ecosystem. (Isn't it so that we here also have pretty temperamental anti-Panasonic or anti-Nikon, anti-Sony etc. knights for the utmost value of another manufacturer of choice that nicely correspond with N's fluid favorite-attitude?)

To put it simple, it seems to me that those who could be influenced by Northrup's acting and leisure profile (being it lot or little in number) - simply deserved them and will always search precisely for them as mentors or idols  Those influenced, actually, wish to look as Northrups in total - superficial, ready for high-selfestimation achieved by buying new cameras as cheap surrogatе of real creative suspension. N's always have some information and some (in advance paid or just after-earned) comic quasi important interpretation, in last time more and more profetic predictions. This time and this turn, it looks that they are little bit frustrated that Panasonic doesn't estimate them as important, or they are maybe just get hints from Sony or so.

I'm not sure that some especial psychological+mess-of-facts-and-lies combination of "utter bullshit" could be cleared in serious fact-confrontation... reckoning on better influence. It may be or not... and exactly such possibility to put in question everything is, for me, rare and utter value of this anti-N forum.

18 minutes ago, kye said:

I just looked at the remaining lenses ???

Then go ahead - but from my experience any list of GAS lenses madness could not be perceived as complete without Helios (Гелиос) 40-2 85mm 1.5 ... That will swirl you at incomparable way (I call it "The best of Rachmaninov")

21 hours ago, Parker said:

I keep going back and forth on picking up the 35mm 1.4. It's the most expensive of the CZ's and costs a pretty penny, but I'm very, very tempted. 

For information about price, I sold mine for 850e (German version) last month to buyer in Italy. I kept it as last from dozen of Zaiss Contax line I had, checking  if I'll be tempted to jump into FF route. (I have to admit that 35mm f2.8 was closer to my heart.)

What to say with compassion, try to be patient and I hope you have possibility at least to change your sample of camera for another one. Maybe other users of Z6 here could test issue and in form of petition, using eoshd as voice of truly independent  platform, make some sort of more pressure on Nikon support?

3 hours ago, kye said:

I can feel a lens test coming on...  I'm only waiting on three more lenses and then I'll do it and share with everyone.

Good man, I'm starting to pray for you   

I understand, in any case, being as parts of panoramic or alchemical seeing, all roads must lead to Canon