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Well, maybe Canon is starting to count on ML as its hidden weapon?

3 hours ago, jonpais said:

Botany Bay is lovely. Not only the lens, but the photo style, the camera settings (sharpening, contrast, saturation and noise reduction), the subject matter, the location, the lighting, the focus transitions, the choice of aperture, editing and the music all contribute to the overall feel. Makes you think twice before upgrading, doesn't it?

Really, twice as minimum with Gh2 (<180$), only desperately missing focus peaking, even shaky footage could be full of charming... it seems that some qualities of GH2 sensor give something special? I've posted it regarding earlier discussion about lenses in this thread, thinking how mighty strange are these Voigts in hands of masters. So, once more...

Am I wrong with great aesthetic admiration for such unpretentious using of GH2 + Voigt 17.5 f0.95 ("cinematic") combination... even at just 720p?

(Need to say that I've found that CV 17.5 is the most usable and produce the most beautiful picture in whole m43 range of lenses, IMHO.)

@Grimor

Could you upload that mov_25p_200mbps file?

On words about Nepal, out of topic, but in honor to one of the members of this forum... wonderful achievement, and unbeatable NX1

Made with several grading layer in Assimilate Scratch, trying to match accurate colors and preserve as much as possible midtones and mild roll-of highlights. V-log indeed has pretty nice DR scope.

GH5 Done with several grading layers in Assimilate Scratch, not complicated task. Snapshot in jpg. Could be easy tweak (darken) with gamma settings or little bit of s-curve. Deezid result is nice, for me just with small yellowish tendency.

2 hours ago, vladsaysF said:

wow i see i sparked quite a debate! hehe
i want to thank everyone for their input. i decided to go with the GX85. for one, Yes, IBIS was the main selling point. i want to shoot up close, in movement. two, it was on sale for 697 usd.  three, judging from what i've been reading here and elsewhere, no matter what camera i could get in this price range, it will be a better investement long term than the camcorder. the other thing is, 

i have a classmate who runs a small video clip production company, i'll go assist him on his projects this summer, he'll be able to teach me a lot of things. someone was worried that i'll end up another guy  who does press & shoot... look, i'm a screenwriter. my priority is the story. I'm fascinated by the theories of Tarkovski, Eisenstein. Eisenstein revolutionized montage at a time where movies didn't even have sound. I tend to agree with him and Tarkovski. the real magic happens at the montage.  I want to learn how to stage what i have in my head. Practice writing tthat will make sense when it's being filmed. Practice putting together shots to get the dramatic effect i envisioned.

do i want to be a Super Mega Pro and shoot jaw-dropping video? sure it would be nice. but to get there, i have to practice a lot. and the investment of time spent on acquiring technique is justified, to me at least, only by having things worth shooting properly. I'll learn what i can in the process, and if i end up feeling like i could learn more/do more with  more sophisticated/specialized equipment, well  i'll cross that bridge when i get to it.

i got the camera with its kit lens, and following the advice i read here and on some other review sites, i'll get a prime lens as my second lens once i get a bit more cash. 

thank you for all your help! i hope i'll be able to get as much advice in the future as well, once my camera arrives and i start experimenting with it.

 

Btw: between Eisenstein and Tarkovski there's no anything similar in technical side (of course, just marvelous dedication to their art). Tarkovski was greatest opponent to Eisenstein's strategic and universal rule of montage in movies, wholeheartedly advocating and ardently arguing for spontaneous and natural character of moves and shots. Therefore such beautifully realized Tarkovski's uninterupted long-shots, corresponding with his philosophy of natural-time approach and evolvement. Or, as he wrote: Sculpting in time.

Try using Assimilate Scratch. It accepts - for base editing and high-end hard grading - even a GH5 6K video (hevc) files without any transcoding. Its workflow is way more intuitive and delivery-transcoding process (including native prores!) much faster than Resolve and Premiere. Only downside for editing is - just one audio track.