Shirozina

Clearly this is a stills orientated camera - move along now.....

All this is based on such a slender rumour.........
I can't see how Panasonic would want to enter an already crowded and shrinking marketplace while having to bring a whole new range of lenses with it. If Panasonic do have a full frame sensor in development it's much more likley to be a high end cinema camera with 8k capability. The M43 system is not going to be dead anytime soon as despite some disadvantages  it produces stills and video of sufficient quality to satisfy most users in a package that's significantly smaller than larger format systems. 
 

I've been using an eGPU for a few weeks now on my XPS 9560 and love it despite the extra bulk but you do have the option of doing basic stuff without it and then plugging it in when you want to get down to business. The current generations of mobile CPU's and GPU's are good enough for 4k editing in terms of processor speeds but when put in thin laptops they generate too much heat to be used for anything other than short busts of use.

I don't see how the Mac is a lot better unless you want to use FCP as they are basically sharing the same hardware ( XPS slightly better in the GPU dept) and both limited by thermal design to doing non intensive tasks.

Yes ( Sorry I should have mentioned that). These boxes take normal desktop size GPU's and do vary in size as some have internal  PSU's. The Asus XG station pro is not too big and has an external PSU. It's also not that expensive and put in a GTX 1070 or above and resolve will fly. 

If you have the space get an eGPU as this will make virtually any reasonabe spec laptop run Resolve OK. 

Jon's jump from GH5 fanboy to Sony fanboy is wild. 
I wish he wasn't such an intolerant dick and was able to process the notion that we all have different opinions, preferences, and wants. If you don't agree with him and his "facts" you're delusional, an idiot or both. 

I think you are only interested in arguing but here you go;
1, You can't invent colours that are not captured or recorded in the first place. I get paid to manage colour but I'm not a magician
2, REC709 and many other non log camera profiles have limited DR and Gamut so it doesn't matter how many bits the file has if the data isn't there.
3,If you view rec709 on a REC 2020 device without transforming it that isn't a workflow it's called operator error. SD to HD - what point are you making in relation to any of the above?
 

Who is going to transform REC709 to REC2020 as a workflow? Most will be doing the opposite so with the correct transformation no data will be lost. Log is not a problem as long as it's captured using enough bits and enough chroma subsampling. The problem is when you shoot LOG in 8bits and 4.2.0 and then on top of that use high lossy compression codecs. 

Prove it. 

I'm basing this on logic/science/experience. 

So please write a rebuttal point by point for everything you're disagreeing with. 
Two minutes ago people were complaining about how MFT sensors are not as good in lowlight.... now people are saying they're too good and it needs tonnes of ND? (reminds me of people with the a7S when it came out with its high base ISO in slog)

You just can never win with some people! :-P 
 

EXACTLY!

When your restriction is your DoF that you must work with, and not your lens (and indeed in a practical aspect, for many people it is this way round. Although sure... some might reply back with how they're exception in that it is the MFT lenses which confine them....) then as your sensor size goes up you must either boost up your lighting levels (which means more time and costs! Thus the complaints from the vistavision shooters on reduser when they discovered this obvious fact)  or boost up your ISO levels (which either means you lose an lowlight advantage the large sensor maybe possibly had, or even worse... you are left with worse image quality!). 
 

So basically a near ETTR exposure  - horrible banding / colour clipping around the light clouds towards the top right of the frame. the 8bit 4.2.0 100mps internal codec is just not up to this kind of low contrast scene. You would probably get away with it shooting to an ext recorder in 4.2.2 with a less compressed codec but to capture a low contrast scene like this internally you need to pick a more contrasty profile to spread your tones across more of the image data range.

Who is going to transform REC709 to REC2020 as a workflow? Most will be doing the opposite so with the correct transformation no data will be lost. Log is not a problem as long as it's captured using enough bits and enough chroma subsampling. The problem is when you shoot LOG in 8bits and 4.2.0 and then on top of that use high lossy compression codecs. 

Thanks - looks even better than RCM!

Despite the poor specs of the 150mbps LongGOP codec it does hold up very well in grading. Mainly I think due to it's 10bits which make the luma channel near immune to banding unless you apply insane curves or tonal shifts and bends. The main reason to avoid it is the stress it places on most editing rigs trying to decode it on teh fly for smooth playback. The 400mbps codec is better in this respect but still harder on the CPU and GPU than ProRes or DNxHD. Given that most people will expose and color balance near optimally and not treat it as RAW the inadequacies you describe are purely academic and do not translate into real world problems. Until other mainstream manufacturers adopt 10bit 4.2.2 internal codecs the GH5 is well ahead of the game at the moment and a joy to work with compared to ubiquitous 8 bit 4.2.0 codecs with often even more compression.

Despite the poor specs of the 150mbps LongGOP codec it does hold up very well in grading. Mainly I think due to it's 10bits which make the luma channel near immune to banding unless you apply insane curves or tonal shifts and bends. The main reason to avoid it is the stress it places on most editing rigs trying to decode it on teh fly for smooth playback. The 400mbps codec is better in this respect but still harder on the CPU and GPU than ProRes or DNxHD. Given that most people will expose and color balance near optimally and not treat it as RAW the inadequacies you describe are purely academic and do not translate into real world problems. Until other mainstream manufacturers adopt 10bit 4.2.2 internal codecs the GH5 is well ahead of the game at the moment and a joy to work with compared to ubiquitous 8 bit 4.2.0 codecs with often even more compression.

Despite the poor specs of the 150mbps LongGOP codec it does hold up very well in grading. Mainly I think due to it's 10bits which make the luma channel near immune to banding unless you apply insane curves or tonal shifts and bends. The main reason to avoid it is the stress it places on most editing rigs trying to decode it on teh fly for smooth playback. The 400mbps codec is better in this respect but still harder on the CPU and GPU than ProRes or DNxHD. Given that most people will expose and color balance near optimally and not treat it as RAW the inadequacies you describe are purely academic and do not translate into real world problems. Until other mainstream manufacturers adopt 10bit 4.2.2 internal codecs the GH5 is well ahead of the game at the moment and a joy to work with compared to ubiquitous 8 bit 4.2.0 codecs with often even more compression.

I think this depends on what level of film-making you're doing.  The professional colourists over at liftgammagain are likely working with RAW and high quality Prores files from the high end cinema cameras, and live in a different world to the one we talk about on here.  There was a thread about buying "cheap" client monitors for their grading studio (these aren't monitors to grade with, they're only for the clients to view the grade) and I just about had a heart attack when someone said that their budget was $8000 per monitor, and they were looking to buy half-a-dozen of them!!

If you are moving to a desktop PC just use RAID 0 on internal disks and regularly save to a backup as it will be cheaper and less hassle than an external setup. I use 4 x 2tb which gives me enough read and write speed for 4k and an 8tb ext HD for daily backups. If I have a drive fail I would just replace the bad drive, rebuild the raid and copy back the data to it from the backup which is probably a lot easier, faster and safer than trying to recover from the more advanced RAID configurations. RAID 0 currently enables fast write and read speeds and large storage capacity for less money than SSD or NVME storage. When the latter 2 drop in price significantly we can consign RAID to history......

Transcoding to Pro Res (one highly compressed codec to another slightly less compressed) throws away  image data unless you use one of the very high end lossless codecs and then the storage size gets to be a problem - it's also time consuming and even with 4k ProRes you will still struggle to edit smoothly on the  OP's existing or proposed hardware.

Neither is capable of handling 4k without significant time consuming frustrations esp with Premier Pro.

You can't get around the physical limitations of a thin case.......

The XPS 9570 still suffers from CPU and GPU throttling when run hard (like my 9560) but as it has Thunderbolt it can use an external GPU. These slim laptops are just not designed to deal with the thermal stress of sustained high CPU and GPU rates but if you can offload this work to an external box it may solve it. I have a 4 disk RAID0 on my 9560 via Thunderbolt which gives me 500 mbps data rates but the Thunderbolt chip side of the laptop gets very hot. If you have a big raid storage box and eGPU + laptop you have to ask yourself why are you not using a small desktop ( micro ATX form factor) PC and a Screen......

The XPS 9570 still suffers from CPU and GPU throttling when run hard (like my 9560) but as it has Thunderbolt it can use an external GPU. These slim laptops are just not designed to deal with the thermal stress of sustained high CPU and GPU rates but if you can offload this work to an external box it may solve it. I have a 4 disk RAID0 on my 9560 via Thunderbolt which gives me 500 mbps data rates but the Thunderbolt chip side of the laptop gets very hot. If you have a big raid storage box and eGPU + laptop you have to ask yourself why are you not using a small desktop ( micro ATX form factor) PC and a Screen......

The XPS 9570 still suffers from CPU and GPU throttling when run hard (like my 9560) but as it has Thunderbolt it can use an external GPU. These slim laptops are just not designed to deal with the thermal stress of sustained high CPU and GPU rates but if you can offload this work to an external box it may solve it. I have a 4 disk RAID0 on my 9560 via Thunderbolt which gives me 500 mbps data rates but the Thunderbolt chip side of the laptop gets very hot. If you have a big raid storage box and eGPU + laptop you have to ask yourself why are you not using a small desktop ( micro ATX form factor) PC and a Screen......