odie

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For me it's 
any CAMERA that you can load or thread Kodak film in .. image combined with art..fantastic

How good was the copy of the film? A lot of times compression destroys low light scenes that would probably have been beautiful otherwise. 

If you’re in Europe filming on 16mm or 35mm
here is an Athens lab we used for a series of commercials 
 
anmar.gr
 
they include everything and they’re great!
 

Two different mediums 
 
not a question of catching up
 
the difference between working with Kodak film and digital video is substantial when you a pursuing a career 
 
Thats why I have a film camera  in my gear bag

Two different mediums 
 
not a question of catching up
 
the difference between working with Kodak film and digital video is substantial when you a pursuing a career 
 
Thats why I have a film camera  in my gear bag

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for me it was Kodak #7203..Wow!

I'm going to disagree with all the sentiments in this thread and recommend something different.
Go rent an Alexa.
For practical purposes, maybe an Alexa Mini.  Talk to your local rental houses and see if there's a timeframe you can rent one and get a big discount, often rental houses are happy to give you a discount if you're renting it when the camera wouldn't be rented by anyone else so have a chat with them.
Shoot with it a lot.  Shoot as much as you can and in as many situations as you can.  Just get one lens with it then take it out and shoot.   Shoot in the various modes it has, shoot into the sun and away from it.  Shoot indoors.  Shoot high-key and shoot low key. 
Then take the camera back and grade the footage.
I suspect you won't do this.  It's expensive and a cinema camera like an Alexa is a PITA unless you have used one before.  So I'll skip to the end with what I think you'll find.  The footage won't look great.  The footage will remind you of footage from lesser cameras.  You will wonder what happened and if you're processing the footage correctly.  
I have never shot with an Alexa, but I am told by many pros that if you don't know what you're doing, Alexa footage will look just as much like a home video as from almost any other camera.
Cinematic is a word that doesn't even really have any meaning in this context.  It really just means 'of the cinema' and there's probably been enough films shot and shown in cinemas on iPhones that now an iPhone technically qualifies as being 'cinematic'.  Yes, i'm being slightly tongue-in-cheek here, but the point remains that the word doesn't have any useful meaning here.  Yes, images that are shown in the cinema typically look spectacular.  Most of this is location choice, set design, hair, costume, makeup, lighting, haze, blocking, and the many other things that go into creating the light that goes through the lens and into the camera.
That doesn't mean that the camera doesn't matter.  We all have tastes, looks we like and looks we don't, it's just that the word 'cinematic' is about as useful as the word 'lovely' - we all know it when we see it but we don't all agree on when that is.
By far the more useful is to work out what aspects of image quality you are looking for:
Do you like the look of film?  If so, which film stocks? What resolution?  Some people suggest that 1080p is the most cinematic, whereas some argue that film was much higher resolution than 4K or even 8K.  What about colour?  The Alexa has spectacular colour, so does RED.  But neither one will give you good colour easily, and neither will give you great colour - great colour requires great production design, great lighting, great camera colour science, and great colour grading.  By the way - Canon also has great colour, so does Nikon, and other brands too.  You don't hear photographers wishing their 5D or D800 had colour science like in the movies. What lenses do you like?  Sharp?  Softer?  High-contrast?  Low contrast?  What about chromatic aberation?  and what about the corners - do you like a bit of vignetting or softness or field curvature?  Bokeh shape?  dare I mention anamorphics? But there is an alternative - it doesn't require learning what you like and how to get it, it doesn't require the careful weighting of priorities, and it's a safer option.  Buy an ARRI Alexa LF and full set of Zeiss Master Primes.  That way you will know that you have the most cinematic camera money can buy, and no-one would argue based on their preferences.
You still wouldn't get the images you're after because the cinematic look requires an enormous team and hundreds of thousands of dollars (think about it - why would people pay for these things if they could get those images without all these people?) but there will be no doubt that you have the most cinematic camera that money can buy.
I'd suggest Panavision, but they're the best cameras that money can't buy.

Whatever works in your region.  For me its this camera and the day rate soars!(in LA)
 

Whatever works in your region.  For me its this camera and the day rate soars!(in LA)
 

I’m saving up for my favorite camera and Oscar leader Arri LT 35mm film camera...

Just personal preference. I prefer the look of the 3.2k and 2.8k Alexa to the Alexa 65 and Alexa LF, it seems more organic and has more texture and I think that's part of the reason vintage lenses are so popular on the 65.
And features I watch that were shot at 2.8K look better to me than my own 4k+ footage (pretty obviously). But when I worked in post with a variety of cameras the Alexa footage always looked so much better than the F55 and Epic footage to me, too. It's just got a smoother look to it and the texture is smooth and looks more organic and more like film so even if the shadows are noisy it's a good look, and when you lose that texture it either looks more digital or more plastic to me. I know other people who feel this way, but I know a lot of people don't. It could be fine. The Gemini and Black Magic stuff doesn't look too bad to me, presumably since it's not over-sharpened. Oddly, Alexa ProRes is sharpened by default so who knows. Maybe it's the low frequency sharpening on Alexa footage that I like, but I dislike the edge enhancement on a drone or iPhone or something. I can't say for sure, just speculate. But when you capture too much fine detail it looks worse to me.
There's an interview with the DP on the Crown where he goes through all the steps he took to make the F55 look more organic. He wanted to use an Alexa but he wasn't allowed to. I guess I can relate to that. It's just personal preference. I really like the look of S16 and 2-perf S35. I like a more painterly image, I was more into Kaminski than Deakins. I like high speed film when I shoot stills. But I also want the texture to look good. I think it's also sort of a running gag, they keep delaying it and the joke among Alexa fanatics is they're delaying it because the 2.8k is already so good.

I don't need a background in epidemiology to understand what is happening.
You just need eyes and to be able to logically deduce more than 1 step ahead (which rules out at least 50% of the British public)
I'll explain why it's government manslaughter and negligence, very clearly.
Science community has been warning about the threat of a pandemic for decades. SARS hit Asia and governments there did the responsible thing to wake the fuck up...Whilst ours pondered and basically sat on their hands with other issues taking priority... like who appeals to the public the most in our daily gameshow political shitshow.
They were thinking it can't happen here... The scientific data was telling them otherwise. Bill Gates told them otherwise, very clearly.
Logic tells them otherwise. The millions of flights and international travel increase the spread of a virus so that it's a pandemic. Are you saying I need to have a background in virology to understand this? Even school kids know this.
The UK government has been proved by the events of this month to have had zero preparedness for a pandemic.
- A lack of political recognition of the seriousness of what was unfolding in January
- Insufficient testing capacity
- Insufficient protection of front-line health workers, doctors and staff
- Insufficient supplies of hand sanitiser and masks... Basic, cheap stuff.
- A lack of political urgency to put any preparedness plans into action in January (oh and they didn't have any plan anyway)
- Poor case isolation and low testing numbers especially early on at critical stage of the spread
- Underfunded health system and not supporting the staff
- Negligently informing the public
I'll give you two examples of that last point which is key. On his Japan trip, @BTM_Pix noticed the Brit tourists suddenly abandon their masks after Boris said they were ineffectual.
Nothing sums this crisis up better. People cannot take seriously what they don't understand or are poorly advised about. People don't understand the role of the masks to stop the spread of the virus. They are not there to protect you from infection. They exist to stop YOU passing the virus onto somebody else, if you cough, sneeze, it catches burst of aerosols, and it stops your hands from coming into contact with your mouth, nose or catching the cough. In the UK we catch our coughs and sneezes with our bare hands and then put our hands on shopping and goods in the supermarket. It stays there for up to 72 hours before somebody else picks up the same item and then touches their own mouths at some point, then the trouble happens especially if they are elderly or have underlying health conditions.
It is the government's responsibility to make us understand this but in actual fact their "scientific" advise is still to catch your coughs and sneezes with your bare hands. Great way to spread it onto surfaces in public, like in a packed metro carriage and spread it to a 100 others.
That's what the Japanese and Taiwanese understand in their densely populated cities.
The British don't.
We do not have a culture of understanding anything much as a collective.
We don't have a culture of wearing masks when we have a cold, let alone during a pandemic.
This has to change ASAP... Like tomorrow...
It may already be too late, and certainly for the economy and for people who have died so far it's too late.
Everyone has to wear one in public to stop the spread. It's simply no good just 20% of the public wearing them, or scarfs or buckets or whatever in a misguided belief they are a barrier to the virus entering your body.
Army should be on the streets handing them out.
Basic stuff like soap is equally important and disinfecting common public spaces. In Asia they have been disinfecting public transport on daily basis, cleaning businesses and offices like the plague. We are not doing that here. We are just not used to it. We don't have a warm climate in England with a lot of bacteria. The virus is not the same as bacteria but is removed by similar deep cleans, so why aren't we doing them?
So yes, the government had all this info, like the lay man did, like the bloke who runs EOSHD did, it's not even hard to understand...
And yes, they failed to act or be prepared which makes them criminally negligent and responsible for the manslaughter of potentially 2 million people in the UK alone.

I agree to an extent. 
I sincerely doubt that the culture in the USA will awaken to facts over myth.  We have a system here built upon a foundation of nonsense, where what we want to hear is more important than reality.  Europe has felt the sting of that attitude to an extent, we have not.
This American culture has helped create a health-care system built for the affluent, not for everybody, and that's a system I fear will probably not withstand the crush of contagion.
I pray that I'm wrong about that, but there's nothing I'm hearing from the current administration that allays my concern.  The USA is going to be in the thick of COVID repercussions Mid-May and not back to anything resembling normal until mid summer.
That's a long time to reflect --and 33% unemployment (that's a "new normal" that I'm not happy to face) will shake some marbles lose, so maybe attitudes will shift somehow...but... man, I just know people here.  Many are family. I see how they think and behave.  The attitude is a blessing and a curse.  These people I live with are not outliers, they are average Americans.

Even the freeplay Streetfighter SNES station outside this second hand game shop was sorted.

There is a slow burning realisation and awakening in the UK and Europe (it will come to the US soon) that we have fucked up.
Big time.
In Japan and Taiwan, simple early hygiene measures avoided a lockdown or economic crash. Thousands of jobs saved, but more importantly thousands of lives saved from the outset.
In January, the Japanese started to test in-depth for coronavirus and did case by case contact tracing and isolation. The public did their bit by wearing masks en-masse in public and using hand sanitiser. @BTM_Pix points out that most if not all shops had hand sanitiser on the entrance so people didn't unwittingly spread by handling goods.
At the same time, here in the UK our government did nothing. Business as normal.
In February our crackpot chief advisor started to float the theory of herd immunity, and amazingly the chief scientists and government itself went for this strategy straight off the bat, as the first cases reached the UK. When the scientists ran the numbers, it wasn't until over a month later... It would result in 2 million dead people, minimum.
The chief advisor Dominic Cummings is rumoured to have been advocating for the death of 2 million people as late as February 28th.
"At one private event at the end of February, Cummings outlined then government’s strategy at the time in a way that was summarised by some present as “herd immunity, protect the economy, and if that means some pensioners die, too bad.”
Meanwhile in Japan and Taiwan, the simple hygiene measures were leaving some of the most densely populated cities on Earth virtually untouched by the epidemic.
But for Italy things were rapidly going downhill. Another government who sat on their hands in January and February.
Italy's terrifying unfolding tragedy is a glimpse into the future for all of us... Just 2-4 weeks into the future.
In Italy, 20-30% of intensive care patients are aged 20-40. People with underlying health or lung problems are at great risk even if they're young.
Hospitals and health systems will collapse.
The sudden lockdowns required, will crash the economy, creating joblessness, government debt and hardship on a scale never seen before in modern times.
Meanwhile Japan remains open for business.
Sure, with some major events cancelled and the Olympics in doubt... But over in China, they are already going back to work.
Taiwan has some of the fewest cases and deaths per 100,000 people in the world, despite being on the doorstep of China.
Hong Kong too.
In the West this is the biggest government manslaughter unfolding, that has ever been seen in our lives.
Italy, Spain, Germany, UK, US, we are all going to face utter darkness. Please takes step to protect yourselves from the government's handling of this in the critical early stages. It is going to get out of control.

Still funny though
 

You’re right(vodaphone)
 
corrected

To be fair, that picture is from a shop in Greece.

This is from Patricia Claus (a journalist ) who also mentions an 2003 epidemic if anyone can comment 
 
“Is this pandemic dangerous? Of course it is. Is it going to affect the economy? It is. But this is not the end of the world as we know it.
For a little historical perspective, the SARS virus had a fatality rate of 9.63% and the MERS virus had one of 34.45%. The Swine flu caused 12,469 deaths in the US and a total of 575,400 worldwide. And the bottom of the world’s economy did not fall out during those times.
Let’s all just take a breath and step back a bit from the 24/7 media frenzy. It is a part of human nature to want to be part of the herd, to not be left behind. But remember, this herd mentality can lead us off a cliff too.
The world faces similar emergencies pretty much every 5-10 years due to the constant mutation of viruses. In our opinion, there is no need to exaggerate the threat quite as much as is being done today.
Yes, it now appears to be true that the virus can live in aerosol form in the air for three hours and on surfaces for three days. That is cause for some major, and ongoing, disinfection and spring cleaning in our homes and public places.
And because the virus is especially dangerous to the elderly, without question, they must be protected.
One of our writers remembers the 2003 SARS outbreak very well, actually being diagnosed with that flu himself. Schools had closed for a month back then in Greece (15 days + 15 days off for Easter); that situation was very similar to what we face today. Who on earth remembers this now? No one. That’s why we think we need to put everything into perspective.
Yes, of course we need to be extremely careful, and not spread it to the elderly. And this virus does seem to be more easily spread due to its aerosolization and ability to live on surfaces. But the virulence of the coronavirus is so much less than some of these other pandemic viruses that we have lived through before.
As to the reasons exactly why so many are losing their minds – here are a few, gleaned from some astute observers of society today.
Twenty-four hour, mega-hyped Coronavirus headlines with bright red graphics and banners.
So-called news outlets designing and building Coronavirus sets and backdrops to get people to watch.
Scrolling headlines identifying the latest cases and deaths.
Nonstop discussions with experts with differing opinions.
The media focusing on the deaths — and never mentioning the recoveries.
This is fear-mongering on a billion-dollar budget.
Like it or not, the media, especially television, is the real controlling force in our world today, and the coronavirus seems to be a very lucrative disease for the networks.
Watching these nonstop, breathless warnings and dire predictions can lead to being excessively focused on oneself and one’s own family, to the detriment of others — the same mentality of feeling that it is justified to hoard everything within sight. This is a danger to ourselves and to the fabric of our society.
Ultimately, obsessively trying to kill every single germ that is in our vicinity is a game we cannot win, because no matter how many precautions we take, how many surfaces we disinfect — we simply cannot control everything.
Wash your hands, wipe down doorknobs and handles, cover your coughs and sneezes and stay home if you are sick or have been around someone that is sick. Social distancing, staying a meter away from others while we are in public, is a great idea right now.
And by all means, obey any and all travel restrictions that have been put in place for the good of everyone.
But there is no need for blind, apocalyptic panic — or mindless hoarding — whatsoever.
We must try to keep our economies going as much as we possibly can, through whatever means we can, while still obeying all the restrictions placed on us.
The world is not coming to an end, we will get through this — and we will learn a great deal in the process.”
 

This is from Patricia Claus (a journalist ) who also mentions an 2003 epidemic if anyone can comment 
 
“Is this pandemic dangerous? Of course it is. Is it going to affect the economy? It is. But this is not the end of the world as we know it.
For a little historical perspective, the SARS virus had a fatality rate of 9.63% and the MERS virus had one of 34.45%. The Swine flu caused 12,469 deaths in the US and a total of 575,400 worldwide. And the bottom of the world’s economy did not fall out during those times.
Let’s all just take a breath and step back a bit from the 24/7 media frenzy. It is a part of human nature to want to be part of the herd, to not be left behind. But remember, this herd mentality can lead us off a cliff too.
The world faces similar emergencies pretty much every 5-10 years due to the constant mutation of viruses. In our opinion, there is no need to exaggerate the threat quite as much as is being done today.
Yes, it now appears to be true that the virus can live in aerosol form in the air for three hours and on surfaces for three days. That is cause for some major, and ongoing, disinfection and spring cleaning in our homes and public places.
And because the virus is especially dangerous to the elderly, without question, they must be protected.
One of our writers remembers the 2003 SARS outbreak very well, actually being diagnosed with that flu himself. Schools had closed for a month back then in Greece (15 days + 15 days off for Easter); that situation was very similar to what we face today. Who on earth remembers this now? No one. That’s why we think we need to put everything into perspective.
Yes, of course we need to be extremely careful, and not spread it to the elderly. And this virus does seem to be more easily spread due to its aerosolization and ability to live on surfaces. But the virulence of the coronavirus is so much less than some of these other pandemic viruses that we have lived through before.
As to the reasons exactly why so many are losing their minds – here are a few, gleaned from some astute observers of society today.
Twenty-four hour, mega-hyped Coronavirus headlines with bright red graphics and banners.
So-called news outlets designing and building Coronavirus sets and backdrops to get people to watch.
Scrolling headlines identifying the latest cases and deaths.
Nonstop discussions with experts with differing opinions.
The media focusing on the deaths — and never mentioning the recoveries.
This is fear-mongering on a billion-dollar budget.
Like it or not, the media, especially television, is the real controlling force in our world today, and the coronavirus seems to be a very lucrative disease for the networks.
Watching these nonstop, breathless warnings and dire predictions can lead to being excessively focused on oneself and one’s own family, to the detriment of others — the same mentality of feeling that it is justified to hoard everything within sight. This is a danger to ourselves and to the fabric of our society.
Ultimately, obsessively trying to kill every single germ that is in our vicinity is a game we cannot win, because no matter how many precautions we take, how many surfaces we disinfect — we simply cannot control everything.
Wash your hands, wipe down doorknobs and handles, cover your coughs and sneezes and stay home if you are sick or have been around someone that is sick. Social distancing, staying a meter away from others while we are in public, is a great idea right now.
And by all means, obey any and all travel restrictions that have been put in place for the good of everyone.
But there is no need for blind, apocalyptic panic — or mindless hoarding — whatsoever.
We must try to keep our economies going as much as we possibly can, through whatever means we can, while still obeying all the restrictions placed on us.
The world is not coming to an end, we will get through this — and we will learn a great deal in the process.”
 

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FILM challenge one room ..good idea!

The only thing open