Eric Calabros

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hate to repeat myself but its about letting your loyal customers think other brands are handling the video better, even if its just a perception made by very local internet commenters, not that D5500 or D750 output is totally useless. People are comparing and vote with their money. 

Canon Inc said on Tuesday its third quarter operating profit fell 48 percent, hurt by a strengthened yen following Britain's vote to leave the European Union.
and its market leader with 45% market share. imagine Nikon situation. 

A dedicated video camera is out of question for Nikon. They don't make sensors. Sony has its own fab(s), Canon hss its own, Panasonic has its own (plus Towerjazz), so Nikon has to ask someone to make a video optimized sensor for them, and because its very low volume market, that will be hugely expensive. Df is niche, but its sensor is not. Besides, even if they find a reasonably priced sensor, the mount problem remains. Most serious video shooters are in PL camp, or using Canon lenses, or already adapting their old lenses to Sony's open mount. These people have no interest for F mount. No, it clearly makes no sense, businesswise. 
The thing is they are letting their customers to experience and finally embrace other options. When a DSLR shooter realizes he needs a secondary camera for video jobs, which is probably a mirrorless, he slowly discovers that secondary camera can also take pretty high quality stills in situations he wouldn't expect it to perform well, so asks himself Why I should keep using my bulky DSLR in every shoot? Its not even dangerous for DSLR business, its disaster. 
 

Yea, D5 is the only flagship DSLR with 4k 4:2:2 HDMI output at the moment, but its not enough in 2016. Moreover, its not like the expected features need rocket science. Its already done by others. I'm pretty sure Nikon engineers are capable of delivering the best 10bit log profiled image with most refined color science, efficiently encoded. The problem is their boss doesn't ask them to do it. 

Yea, D5 is the only flagship DSLR with 4k 4:2:2 HDMI output at the moment, but its not enough in 2016. Moreover, its not like the expected features need rocket science. Its already done by others. I'm pretty sure Nikon engineers are capable of delivering the best 10bit log profiled image with most refined color science, efficiently encoded. The problem is their boss doesn't ask them to do it. 

A dedicated video camera is out of question for Nikon. They don't make sensors. Sony has its own fab(s), Canon hss its own, Panasonic has its own (plus Towerjazz), so Nikon has to ask someone to make a video optimized sensor for them, and because its very low volume market, that will be hugely expensive. Df is niche, but its sensor is not. Besides, even if they find a reasonably priced sensor, the mount problem remains. Most serious video shooters are in PL camp, or using Canon lenses, or already adapting their old lenses to Sony's open mount. These people have no interest for F mount. No, it clearly makes no sense, businesswise. 
The thing is they are letting their customers to experience and finally embrace other options. When a DSLR shooter realizes he needs a secondary camera for video jobs, which is probably a mirrorless, he slowly discovers that secondary camera can also take pretty high quality stills in situations he wouldn't expect it to perform well, so asks himself Why I should keep using my bulky DSLR in every shoot? Its not even dangerous for DSLR business, its disaster. 
 

It's a "big problem" for Nikon only if they are designing a camera by committee, with one half of the table saying one thing and the other half saying another, which I'm afraid it looks like they are doing, at least in terms of the product feedback from pros.

Here are my thoughts after playing with the Pixel that I received just yesterday. 
As many have already said, quality is very similar with most top end phones. It is not a replacement for a large sensor camera, it is just useful to have when the large sensor camera is not with you (c'mon you all know that happens  ).  Add some skill, and you can get some useful footage out of any of these phones, that you would otherwise not have at all. Shoot a movie? Fuck no. 
I am not convinced by EIS yet. EIS artifacts seem worse in low light. It might have to do with the shutter speed I am not sure yet.  Not that OIS is much better. If you want stabilization then you are better off with that $300 Osmo mobile gimbal. I mean miles better. But really who is going to carry that osmo thingy around? 
Colors are better on the Pixel than the S7. In video makes more of a difference. 
Bad flares. You can also notice them on the sample videos posted in this thread. 
I would say photos are better on the Pixel as well, but Samsung has the best camera app. I doubt the average phone user would notice, but if you take photography seriously and you want to have full manual control then you are better off with the S7. Or download another app  .  
As a side note: I wasn't planning on using google assistant, but damn this thing just works. 

Yes, and thats why it needs different algorithms. in your sample, binned version isnt soft. There is really 2k worth of details in the data, its just imprecisely rendered. but Sony is not much interested in spending R&D money on this software puzzle while they are capable of delivering ever faster hardware, though with heat issues. Here is the thing: 30-40mp still is the lowest resolution people are going to demand, and they want 60fps 4k in the same device, which should remain light and compact. With your preferred full-sensor-readout-and-downsamplig method, a lot a lot of data should travel through system and be processed that will generate extra heat, consume extra power, and affect overall reliability. 

Having a virtual 6 stop ND without paying a dime and with absolutely no colorshift is so a big benefit shouldn't be ignored, by anyone. Just because it was near impossible in 1920 to make a rotary shutter fast enough to achieve 1/4000 exposure doesn't mean we shouldn't use it today. But, with such high shutter speed you lose lots of event-data that could be used by your brian to understand the movements in the image. At 1/4000 and 24fps, you capture only %0.06 of every second, while at 1/48 you get half of every second. This is huge difference. Of course that lost %49.94 may only contains blurry pixels of displaced objects, but those pixels help our brain to think "this thing is moving". If you give it a flashing sequence of appearance and disappearance of objects, that will be harder processing task to render it as normal action. I get headache after watching a video with bad motion cadence for longer than five minutes, especially when I'm close to screen. Maybe the combo of myopia and astigmatism I have exacerbate the problem though.

Not gonna happen. Nikon's main problem is they don't have their own fab. Having Sony as your sole supplier makes you encounter with some consequences. I think they will deliver a 1.56x crop (6000/3840). Do you really think Sony would give them a 6k/30fps sensor, while cheap enough to put in a $2k body?
I just fear they don't realize how important is D750 line for Nikon shooters who need a hybrid system. 

Seems outside of Japan, camera makers dont like established sensor size standards. what fab company on earth make 41mm wide CMOS sensor? Its meaninglessly bigger than 36 and pitifully smaller than photographic 54 and miserably far from cinematic 65. 

its not Internet anymore, its Celebritynet. %90 of the content in social media is made by %1 of the users. its tough to keep dedicating your time, money, and energy, and yet stay ignored. the "latest post" of many blogs I used to follow are dated 2014 or 2013! many of them are gone, without saying Bye to their readers (which sometimes make me thinking "maybe he is killed in a car accident and no relative inherited his passwords". lol). but EOSHD is different, or can be. its a brand right now, and Andrew is well known in video community.   

its not Internet anymore, its Celebritynet. %90 of the content in social media is made by %1 of the users. its tough to keep dedicating your time, money, and energy, and yet stay ignored. the "latest post" of many blogs I used to follow are dated 2014 or 2013! many of them are gone, without saying Bye to their readers (which sometimes make me thinking "maybe he is killed in a car accident and no relative inherited his passwords". lol). but EOSHD is different, or can be. its a brand right now, and Andrew is well known in video community.   

This flagship DSLRs are mostly used by PJs and Jpeg is very important for these guys. Now look at Canon white balance in  DPR night mode. D5 nailed it, but Canon seems took Sony color, and made it worse than their own 1DX :-)

This flagship DSLRs are mostly used by PJs and Jpeg is very important for these guys. Now look at Canon white balance in  DPR night mode. D5 nailed it, but Canon seems took Sony color, and made it worse than their own 1DX :-)

the reality is that their D4s customers dont care about the lacking features you asking here, at all
as Thom Hogan said there is only 120,000 D4 out there, and most of them sport shooters who are not allowed to make video in events however. what I guess is that they concluded investing in video department, wont dramatically increase their operating income, so why bother? 

Yes. Again, why do you think they chose lineskipping for the iPhone 5s video? You yourself said the iPhone 5s video was flawless. It is not. If they'd do a proper resampling from 1440p or higher down to 720p without line skipping and proper high quality video encoding, I can assure you - they would not be able to do it in realtime at 120 fps.
(I don't know about the sensor in iPhone, but there are sensors that very well can output higher resolutions at up to 120 fps - but it's still very resource intensive if you want to process the full sensor data and resample it down to 720p or 1080p from a full readout. Line skipping might or might not be necessary from sensor standpoint in an iPhone.)
 
Does 5dmk3 have the power to take 4k-10 bit raw and downsample that to 1080 in realtime 24fps or so? Nope. Outputting RAW is wholly another thing. That means reading data fast and outputting data fast. It's more about I/O than it is about a processor actually doing heavy processing. Downsampling high resolution at high quality at realtime framerates for video is much more difficult processing.
 
So, why doesn't the Nikon V1 output 4k Prores, 4k h.264 or downsample 4k to 1080p to Prores / higher rate H.264? (No, it doesn't have the processing capabilities to do the proper DOWNSAMPLING and ENCODING in realtime).
 
And, the downsampling is key if you really want the best possible resolution and accurate color for 1080p with RGGB grid array sensors. My whole argument in the original post was: from a manufacturer stand point it makes much more sense to go 4k and let the user downsample in post to achieve excellent 1080p, it is much more expensive to do if you want all the processing done in realtime in-camera.