Sony FX5

[Emanuel]

@newfoundmass@MrSMWFX30's stabilization is not necessarily bad at all... it requires a proper operator! : P Maybe @kye is serious up there, maybe not ; ) I am :- )

[MrSMW]

Never tried it but I suspect the FX30 stab would be good enough for my handheld needs which are basically ‘static’.

I move more and more however towards the combo of absolutely locked off or floating moving with nothing in between.

Lumix are great in this regard because if you have everything dialled up to the max, albeit at the expense of some cropping, these things stay incredibly still. It’s really only if there is any static foreground that you notice any movement so wider establishing shots, I always use a tripod or something.

[ND64]

On 7/25/2026 at 7:20 PM, Ilkka Nissila said:

(1) how to compress the data so that it will be possible to write on CFexpress type A cards, (2) how overheating can be avoided, (3) what kind of compression to apply, and (4) what kind of dynamic range is possible given the sensor read time (dual gain output readout) and high frame rate (240 fps).

None of these are unknown for the firmware team that already finished the development. Its not something they need time to discover. Also, when they promise the update in the marketing materials, they're officially admitting they have the solution. Heck they even let Philip Bloom to test it.

[newfoundmass]

On 7/25/2026 at 11:56 AM, Emanuel said:

@newfoundmass@MrSMWFX30's stabilization is not necessarily bad at all... it requires a proper operator! : P Maybe @kye is serious up there, maybe not ; ) I am :- )

For fast action sports where you're moving quickly it's just not sufficient from what I've seen. If you're largely standing still I imagine it's sufficient but when you're running around a wrestling ring, not so much. 

My use case though is admittedly unique. 

[Emanuel]

10 hours ago, newfoundmass said:

For fast action sports where you're moving quickly it's just not sufficient from what I've seen. If you're largely standing still I imagine it's sufficient but when you're running around a wrestling ring, not so much. 

My use case though is admittedly unique. 

The lens can also play a relevant role in order to reach the result you intend or need : ) even though, Oly or Panasonic may overcome it indeed :- )

[newfoundmass]

4 hours ago, Emanuel said:

The lens can also play a relevant role in order to each the result you intend or need : ) even though, Oly or Panasonic may overcome it indeed :- )

No lens is going to help stabilize running enough on any of the current Sony cameras to watch Lumix IBIS unless you use Catalyst Browse which just isn't an efficient option for 3 hour long events. 

[Emanuel]

Actually, I was making exactly the opposite point from the one you made it sound as though I was making : D when I mentioned Lumix alongside the Oly case ; )

The other point is simply that one lens isn’t necessarily the same as another ; )) While much also depends on the way the operator handles the camera, a lens with optical stabilisation can make a night-and-day difference... speaking as someone who uses glass with and without it every day on the FX series :- )

[kye]

On 7/27/2026 at 4:19 PM, newfoundmass said:

For fast action sports where you're moving quickly it's just not sufficient from what I've seen. If you're largely standing still I imagine it's sufficient but when you're running around a wrestling ring, not so much. 

My use case though is admittedly unique. 

I've filmed a lot while walking, often on uneven ground, and I agree with your assessment.

Even using Dual-IS (lens OIS and IBIS) on Panasonic cameras like GH5 / GX85 / GH7 you'd have to be much more ninja-like than I manage to be most of the time.  I haven't tried the EIS setting on top of the Dual-IS, but by looking at the footage afterwards, I can tell that I'm not hitting the limits of the stabilisation by only a small amount - it tends to be stable and then jump pretty abruptly.  I've filmed with setups that only had OIS or no stabilisation at all and so I appreciate the magic Panasonic is working, but there are limits to everything.

I can't imagine what it would be like trying to follow people who are likely to be pretty unpredictable and jumping around etc trying to surprise their opponent.

Have you ever used any of the newer breed of action cameras that have the ultra-hyper-giga-maxxed-stabilisation modes?  I haven't, but they look basically like magic, stabilising people running and biking etc which is well beyond the OIS / IBIS / EIS territory on normal cameras.  It would be fascinating if someone made a normal camera with a mode like that where it takes a large crop into the lens but delivers that kind of stabilisation.  I can imagine using a wider prime, like a 16mm or 24mm with that mode to grab shots that are 2x cropped but smooth like butter.

[newfoundmass]

18 hours ago, Emanuel said:

Actually, I was making exactly the opposite point from the one you made it sound as though I was making : D when I mentioned Lumix alongside the Oly case ; )

The other point is simply that one lens isn’t necessarily the same as another ; )) While much also depends on the way the operator handles the camera, a lens with optical stabilisation can make a night-and-day difference... speaking as someone who uses glass with and without it every day on the FX series :- )

Sorry if I misread!

1 hour ago, kye said:

Have you ever used any of the newer breed of action cameras that have the ultra-hyper-giga-maxxed-stabilisation modes?  I haven't, but they look basically like magic, stabilising people running and biking etc which is well beyond the OIS / IBIS / EIS territory on normal cameras.  It would be fascinating if someone made a normal camera with a mode like that where it takes a large crop into the lens but delivers that kind of stabilisation.  I can imagine using a wider prime, like a 16mm or 24mm with that mode to grab shots that are 2x cropped but smooth like butter.

I have! And it's TOO smooth for my tastes. It's very impressive, but I still want some natural handheld movement. It helps with the immersion. It's why I have never used a gimbal for the ringside action. The biggest issue with action cameras, even the new ones, is the low light just isn't great in most of these venues that don't have professional lighting rigs set up.