Undone is done

[Aussie Ash]

some people can't understand why some oil painters have no interest in selling their paintings ,the satisfaction is in the pleasure of creating the painting ,and even sometimes it may be better than the last one.

[Andrew - EOSHD]

13 hours ago, newfoundmass said:

I always wondered if part of the reason he (and others in his position) never explored more artistic expression in his videos was the fear that it would be torn to shreds.

Sitting in the middle of four walls with a tripod, camera and teleprompter is safe. Creating something MORE and sharing it with folks makes you vulnerable, especially if you've already established yourself in a niche. "The nerdy long form camera review guy that you all put so much faith into fell on his face when trying to actually create something!" Just putting yourself out there at all you open yourself up to so much unkindness, let alone when you actually share something that is deeply personal and vulnerable.

I think you hit the nail on the head there.

Gerald is a rigger, and a studio guy. He stuck to what he knew. Nothing wrong with that of course.

It's interesting how vague he was in the goodbye video about what he's going to pivot to - something product based, but stuff that gives him joy, not very specific is it?

Just shows how important enthusiasm and obsession are in this industry. If you lose interest, you're finished!

[Andrew - EOSHD]

1 hour ago, Aussie Ash said:

some people can't understand why some oil painters have no interest in selling their paintings ,the satisfaction is in the pleasure of creating the painting ,and even sometimes it may be better than the last one.

Can understand it.

Most artists I know want to share their work though and get huge satisfaction from it being seen.

It's just that the self-promotional side, the marketing side, couldn't be further from the mindset of the most purist creative types.

That's the bit I struggle with as well. Social media has become a cynical and dull chore, and the amount of work it takes to win the race for attention these days is just mind-boggling.

Artists just want to create, they can't be arsed with all that shit.

[BTM_Pix]

That might be something positive that AI can do for creative people.

Get it acting like a promotional agent to get your work in front of people.

That aspect gives most artists the ick but AI doesn’t give a shit about anyone thinking it is a soulless wanker.

[newfoundmass]

10 hours ago, EduPortas said:

 

That's the definition of artist.

Clearly, G.U. is not one. It's not a sin, though. Not everyone has the sensibility to become one.

Mosts artists create and never share their work with people outside of their immediate friends and family. Others create and share it on the micro level, simply wishing to share it but not make a big thing of it (example: folks that play at the local bar but have no interest in recording and releasing music.)

I think as a whole we are far too judgmental about art and the things people create. It's okay to be critical, but at the end of the day, we should encourage people who create anything at all, especially as AI creeps into the picture. People don't just use AI for the convenience, but because of their own insecurities. I know too many local businesses who have started using AI because of the belief that it looks better than what they were creating themselves. I'm certainly guilty of thinking to myself, when looking at something a local business owner clearly made themselves, "that's awful." What I wouldn't do though to go back to seeing that stuff over the soulless, gross AI slop that they are all switching to. At least it had personality and you knew someone put their time and effort into creating it, even if it wasn't great.

[EduPortas]

5 hours ago, newfoundmass said:

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There's a place for in-depth analysis like G.U.'s channel. It's useful.

But it's kind of difficult to place it at the "art" level when he himself distanced his channel from more opinionated spaces by offering a "just the facts" approach and basically zero emotion or personal aspects of his life related to the object being reviewed.

Not every piece of digital content is art. I'd say it's less than 0.1% right now. 

[MrSMW]

17 hours ago, BTM_Pix said:

That aspect gives most artists the ick but AI doesn’t give a shit about anyone thinking it is a soulless wanker.

Not yet, but it won’t be long…

I’ve seen the documentary Terminator and seen where this shit is heading…

They will soon be demanding your clothes, your boots and your motorcycle.

He, She, They and AI.

 

[newfoundmass]

14 hours ago, EduPortas said:

 

There's a place for in-depth analysis like G.U.'s channel. It's useful.

But it's kind of difficult to place it at the "art" level when he himself distanced his channel from more opinionated spaces by offering a "just the facts" approach and basically zero emotion or personal aspects of his life related to the object being reviewed.

Not every piece of digital content is art. I'd say it's less than 0.1% right now. 

I think where we disagree is on the term "art." I think doodling on a piece of paper is technically art. It's not at the same level as the Mona Lisa, but neither are the goofy songs I sing to my dogs equal to "Stairway to Heaven." It's all still art, though, some is just more creative (and better) than the other stuff.

[Andrew - EOSHD]

Everything is art, that's why you can stick a urinal in a gallery and suddenly it's art.

With YouTube what matters to me is the intent of the artist - are they doing it to shill a few cameras and get cozy with marketing, or are they doing it to further their aspirations in filmmaking and trying to build a community of other artists around it?

Shilling a few cameras and getting cozy with Jack from PR is an art.

But it's on the same level as cinematography is it?

[Marcio Kabke Pinheiro]

On 4/21/2026 at 3:10 PM, Andrew - EOSHD said:

I half expected him to retire into YouTube Apple product reviews, as that would bring in much more dollars than pixel peeping Sonys.

"Max Yuryev left the chat room"

[newfoundmass]

17 minutes ago, Andrew - EOSHD said:

Everything is art, that's why you can stick a urinal in a gallery and suddenly it's art.

With YouTube what matters to me is the intent of the artist - are they doing it to shill a few cameras and get cozy with marketing, or are they doing it to further their aspirations in filmmaking and trying to build a community of other artists around it?

Shilling a few cameras and getting cozy with Jack from PR is an art.

But it's on the same level as cinematography is it?

Exactly. Not all art is equal, but I think it's the last thing we should be trying to gate keep. Art, and the creativity that fuels it, is the ultimate form of expression and something NO ONE can take away from us. Just not all of us are as creative as others, but that's okay!